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Poll Shows Giuliani over Clinton in 2008 Presidential Match-Up
Canisius College ^ | Thu 17-Nov-2005

Posted on 11/18/2005 3:30:15 PM PST by seastay

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1 posted on 11/18/2005 3:30:17 PM PST by seastay
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To: seastay

Giuliani will never be nominated. He's not just too liberal, he's way, way too liberal.

And I actually have met him and like him personally.


2 posted on 11/18/2005 3:33:25 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Never say never. If the GOP is desperate enough for a winner by then, he might get nominated.


3 posted on 11/18/2005 3:36:19 PM PST by kms61
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To: seastay

Giulani is for gun control. Condi is AGAINST it. Waaaaay against it.

"I am a 2nd Amendment absolutist!" -- Condoleezza Rice


4 posted on 11/18/2005 3:37:11 PM PST by FreeKeys ( "There is nothing normal about Hillary Clinton" -- Dick Morris)
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To: seastay

And "blah, blah". Sounds like some political hack pollster who'd like to see Hilary win in '08 because it's a "cast in stone, take it to the bank" fact that the conservative base sits that one out.


5 posted on 11/18/2005 3:38:30 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: ElkGroveDan

Guiliani is a winner - I would take him over McCain, who I would never be able to trust


6 posted on 11/18/2005 3:38:59 PM PST by ghost of nixon
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To: seastay

Great, another election where the candidates battle over the title of "Who SUCKS the Least".


7 posted on 11/18/2005 3:39:34 PM PST by xrp (Conservative votes are to Republicans what 90% of black votes are to Democrats (taken for granted))
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To: seastay

A liberal beating a liberal?


8 posted on 11/18/2005 3:40:47 PM PST by NapkinUser ("It is a damn poor mind indeed which can think of only one way to spell a word." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: seastay
Anything but Clinton. However...

455 respondents

Not enough respondents. An accurate statistic requires 1,500 respondents to get a +/- 3.
9 posted on 11/18/2005 3:41:42 PM PST by Falconspeed (Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others. Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: FreeKeys

"Giulani is for gun control. Condi is AGAINST it."

And for abortion and U.N. sell-outs like LOST. We can do so much better than Rice, Giuliani, McCain and that ilk.


10 posted on 11/18/2005 3:42:24 PM PST by NapkinUser ("It is a damn poor mind indeed which can think of only one way to spell a word." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: kms61

Well. I can say that I would never vote for either one of them, and you can take that to the bank.


11 posted on 11/18/2005 3:43:00 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: ghost of nixon
>>>>Guiliani is a winner ...

In NYCity and maybe NYState. But Rudi could never win the GOP nomination for Prez. Never.

12 posted on 11/18/2005 3:43:50 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: kms61
Never say never. If the GOP is desperate enough for a winner by then, he might get nominated.

How does he become a winner before he's even nominated? He can't win anyway. People who are looking for a proabortion, progay, gun control candidate have the real thing to choose from in Hillary. Meanwhile Republicans who are Republicans becasue of abortion, moral decay and the second amendment will simply stay home.

To win the presidency you need your party's base. Giuliani simply can't get moral conservatives.

13 posted on 11/18/2005 3:44:18 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: FreeKeys

Rice/Honore '08!


14 posted on 11/18/2005 3:45:29 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Reagan Man

I don't know. I've heard some speeches and interviews. I would not say he is a true conservative but I also don't think he's a RINO. He makes Bloomberg look like Ted Kennedy. And anything less than a RINO these days is worth looking at.


15 posted on 11/18/2005 3:48:19 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: seastay

Winning ticket in 2008: Allen/Giuliani


16 posted on 11/18/2005 3:49:47 PM PST by Nasher
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To: Falconspeed

It was the Jesuit College affiliation that
struck me. I'd prefer to see the same questions
asked by different private organizations (not
colleges!) across the nation. How about polling
employees of companies like Motorola, GE, Microsoft,
Sears, etc.? That's the REAL man on the street...not
students at a religious college.


17 posted on 11/18/2005 3:50:35 PM PST by Grendel9 (uick)
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To: Rennes Templar

MY FRiend, Rudi Guiliani is an Ahnold Schwarzy type politico. Pro-abortion, pro-gun control, pro-homo rights, pro-big govt and pro-envirowackoism. Rudi is also pro-illegal immigrant. Neither Rudi or Ahnold are anywhere near being a Reagan conservative.


18 posted on 11/18/2005 3:57:47 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Nasher
Winning ticket in 2008: Allen/Giuliani

I second the motion.

19 posted on 11/18/2005 4:02:27 PM PST by freespirited
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To: ElkGroveDan
IMO Guiliani can be beaten for the GOP nomination by only two people, Giuliani himself, and Jeb Bush. IMO Jeb is the best governor in the country. Otherwise it's Rudi's to lose.

Executives are the ones who the Presidency - incumbent or former governors, and sometimes a former general. It is very, very rare for someone without government executive experience to win the Presidency, and they must first be nominated. Which means that the 2008 GOP nominee, to win, will either be or have been governor of a state, or something equivalent to that, i.e., Guiliani's experience (highly successful mayor of the biggest city in the country). There aren't any former generals on the horizon.

The more I see of Jeb Bush, though, the more I like him.

But Rudi Giuliani is a national hero - he combines the attractive political qualities of a successful general AND a successful governor.

Senator McCain is more than a Senator - he has some military hero quality too, but it's personal and not associated with successful leadership like Giuliani's.

20 posted on 11/18/2005 4:04:15 PM PST by Thud
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