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To: seastay

Giuliani will never be nominated. He's not just too liberal, he's way, way too liberal.

And I actually have met him and like him personally.


2 posted on 11/18/2005 3:33:25 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Never say never. If the GOP is desperate enough for a winner by then, he might get nominated.


3 posted on 11/18/2005 3:36:19 PM PST by kms61
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To: ElkGroveDan

Guiliani is a winner - I would take him over McCain, who I would never be able to trust


6 posted on 11/18/2005 3:38:59 PM PST by ghost of nixon
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To: ElkGroveDan
IMO Guiliani can be beaten for the GOP nomination by only two people, Giuliani himself, and Jeb Bush. IMO Jeb is the best governor in the country. Otherwise it's Rudi's to lose.

Executives are the ones who the Presidency - incumbent or former governors, and sometimes a former general. It is very, very rare for someone without government executive experience to win the Presidency, and they must first be nominated. Which means that the 2008 GOP nominee, to win, will either be or have been governor of a state, or something equivalent to that, i.e., Guiliani's experience (highly successful mayor of the biggest city in the country). There aren't any former generals on the horizon.

The more I see of Jeb Bush, though, the more I like him.

But Rudi Giuliani is a national hero - he combines the attractive political qualities of a successful general AND a successful governor.

Senator McCain is more than a Senator - he has some military hero quality too, but it's personal and not associated with successful leadership like Giuliani's.

20 posted on 11/18/2005 4:04:15 PM PST by Thud
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To: ElkGroveDan

I think he could win the nomination. Voters who are not stuck on one issue like abortion or gay marriage would vote for him. Besides...........I'm sure he'll move to the right just like Hillary will during the campaign.


24 posted on 11/18/2005 4:22:06 PM PST by fisherman90814
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To: ElkGroveDan

I disagree. Conservatives now find Giuliani very attractive. Post-Katrina, disaster-terror management competence trumps ideology for all but the most intractable social conservative. And Giuliani represents not merely competence in this area but excellence.

As this polls shows, his appeal cuts across the red-blue divide, which will absolutely obliterate a clinton candidacy. I don't think clinton would take her 'home' state.

Pair him with, say Allen, and you have a dream ticket, in my view. Rice as veep would provide an interesting dynamic, altho I don't think that combo would be as strong.


30 posted on 11/19/2005 4:27:25 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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