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Court: Lesson on Muslims OK (9th Circus Again)
Sacabee ^ | November 18, 2005 | Claire Cooper

Posted on 11/18/2005 9:23:45 AM PST by Jay777

SAN FRANCISCO - Christian students and parents cannot sue a school district where some seventh-graders pretended to be Muslims for three weeks during a course in world history, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the role-playing game was not a religious exercise that violated anybody’s constitutional rights.

The decision was issued one day after the U.S. House of Representatives chastised the 9th Circuit for ruling earlier this month that parents can’t sue public schools for providing information about sex. That decision “deplorably infringed on parental rights,” said the House resolution. Thursday’s decision came down in an unpublished memorandum, indicating the judges considered it routine.

They reviewed the method used by one teacher in Byron, Contra Costa County, four years ago to teach the unit on Muslim history, culture and religion that is part of the state’s seventh-grade history curriculum.

Brooke Carlin encouraged her students to play at being Muslims - adopt Muslim names, recite a line from a prayer and give up candy or television to simulate fasting, for example. Students were permitted to opt out. On the final exam they were asked to critique elements of Muslim culture.

Jonas and Tiffany Eklund sued, along with their children. San Francisco U.S. District Judge Phyllis Hamilton dismissed the suit two years ago, saying Carlin was merely teaching and not indoctrinating. Hamilton found that the students did not engage in actual religious exercises.

The 9th Circuit upheld her decision in a five-sentence ruling, saying only that the activities weren’t “overt religious exercises” that would raise concerns under the First Amendment prohibition of “establishment of religion.”

Senior Circuit Judge Dorothy Nelson of Pasadena and Circuit Judges Johnnie Rawlinson of Las Vegas and Carlos Bea of San Francisco signed the decision.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; aclu; brainwashingkids; islam; prayerinschools
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To: Jay777

...Brooke Carlin encouraged her students to play at being Muslims...

Torching cars, murdering your neighbors, raping their pets, eating their children and strangling one's own daughters?

That kind of thing?


21 posted on 11/18/2005 9:36:22 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Alouette; jan in Colorado

Opps... beat me to it.


22 posted on 11/18/2005 9:36:53 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Jay777

From the same Court that would rule Bible lessons in schools to be unconstitutional. If that is, this certainly should be as well.


23 posted on 11/18/2005 9:36:57 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Alouette
Brooke Carlin encouraged her students to play at being Muslims

How long before a student would be expelled if in his role playing a muslim he chained up a female classmate, beat her for showing to much skin, and the beheaded a non-muslim?

24 posted on 11/18/2005 9:37:02 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Jay777

I love the Homeland Holiday Advisory graphic on your site. That's a great idea!


25 posted on 11/18/2005 9:37:45 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: kromike

God does not live in California either. Just illegals and liberal wackos.


26 posted on 11/18/2005 9:37:54 AM PST by Squat (Deport the illegals now! Protest your local Home Depot.)
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To: AmishDude

now those judges are lifetime appointments; so you would have to impeach them to remove them; you couldn't just "fire" them...


27 posted on 11/18/2005 9:38:45 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: nicmarlo

"9th Circuit Court of Appeals Opinions Jurisdictions..."

Which is why wife and I moved to Indiana. The insanity that has plagued Kaleefornia does not stop it the state border.


28 posted on 11/18/2005 9:39:11 AM PST by xusafflyer (Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice)
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To: Rummyfan

Yes, I am afraid so.


29 posted on 11/18/2005 9:40:22 AM PST by pointsal
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
"Torching cars, murdering your neighbors, raping their pets, eating their children and strangling one's own daughters?

That kind of thing?"


And where'd they get the bomb-belts?
30 posted on 11/18/2005 9:41:26 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: kellynla

Any law says you can't cut their pay?


31 posted on 11/18/2005 9:41:38 AM PST by AmishDude (Mathematics -- better than science, harder than science, and always true. Always.)
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To: hsalaw

Actually, the free pre-school measure will impact individuals making more than $400K a year and couples who make more than $800K per year. The result is people in this income bracket will pay ELEVEN PERCENT in State income tax. Of course this will pass because the vast majority of people are NOT in this income bracket and it won't affect them. This is so completely and totally WRONG!


32 posted on 11/18/2005 9:41:49 AM PST by W Fan in Cali
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To: Jay777

Time to present the Christmas story in CA schools.


33 posted on 11/18/2005 9:42:37 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Jay777

Bookmarked the stoptheaclu site to remember to register to comment there. I hope other FReepers will do the same to show support for a worthy project.


34 posted on 11/18/2005 9:43:44 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: LIConFem

Probably made them in shop class.


35 posted on 11/18/2005 9:44:09 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: TheDon
I think you've hit on a new t-shirt/bumper sticker:

Still sending your kids to gov't schools?

You're stuck on stupid!

36 posted on 11/18/2005 9:46:07 AM PST by Sicon
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To: Jay777

ENOUGH!


37 posted on 11/18/2005 9:46:45 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: LIConFem

It would have been pretty funny if some parent had their child play a muslim terrorist! Wear a bomb belt, etc. The teacher/school would have freaked out!


38 posted on 11/18/2005 9:48:03 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Phantom Lord
How long before a student would be expelled if in his role playing a muslim he chained up a female classmate, beat her for showing to much skin, and the beheaded a non-muslim?

Expelled? What for exercising his first ammendment rights to practice his religion?

39 posted on 11/18/2005 9:48:56 AM PST by NeoCaveman (New from Capital Pictures, RINO's gone wild, watch the RINOs play as the Hammer is away.)
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To: Jay777
So... just so I'm clear on this:

Discussing the Bible with other students in your dorm room if you're an RA at college = unconstitutional. Having school children dress up, pray, and fast in accordance with Islamic religious practices = A-OK!

Where's Rod Serling narrating this episode of the Twilight Zone?

40 posted on 11/18/2005 9:49:19 AM PST by Sicon
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