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Court: Lesson on Muslims OK (9th Circus Again)
Sacabee ^ | November 18, 2005 | Claire Cooper

Posted on 11/18/2005 9:23:45 AM PST by Jay777

SAN FRANCISCO - Christian students and parents cannot sue a school district where some seventh-graders pretended to be Muslims for three weeks during a course in world history, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the role-playing game was not a religious exercise that violated anybody’s constitutional rights.

The decision was issued one day after the U.S. House of Representatives chastised the 9th Circuit for ruling earlier this month that parents can’t sue public schools for providing information about sex. That decision “deplorably infringed on parental rights,” said the House resolution. Thursday’s decision came down in an unpublished memorandum, indicating the judges considered it routine.

They reviewed the method used by one teacher in Byron, Contra Costa County, four years ago to teach the unit on Muslim history, culture and religion that is part of the state’s seventh-grade history curriculum.

Brooke Carlin encouraged her students to play at being Muslims - adopt Muslim names, recite a line from a prayer and give up candy or television to simulate fasting, for example. Students were permitted to opt out. On the final exam they were asked to critique elements of Muslim culture.

Jonas and Tiffany Eklund sued, along with their children. San Francisco U.S. District Judge Phyllis Hamilton dismissed the suit two years ago, saying Carlin was merely teaching and not indoctrinating. Hamilton found that the students did not engage in actual religious exercises.

The 9th Circuit upheld her decision in a five-sentence ruling, saying only that the activities weren’t “overt religious exercises” that would raise concerns under the First Amendment prohibition of “establishment of religion.”

Senior Circuit Judge Dorothy Nelson of Pasadena and Circuit Judges Johnnie Rawlinson of Las Vegas and Carlos Bea of San Francisco signed the decision.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; aclu; brainwashingkids; islam; prayerinschools
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1 posted on 11/18/2005 9:23:47 AM PST by Jay777
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To: RepCath; Liz; IronJack; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Iris7; wkdaysoff; EdReform; Nick Danger; ...

ping!


2 posted on 11/18/2005 9:24:23 AM PST by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

Fantastic! Now let's start planning the Christmas Pageant.


3 posted on 11/18/2005 9:26:07 AM PST by craig_eddy
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To: Jay777
Maybe it's just one of those days but I have to ask.....

Has the entire country gone fricking crazy?????

4 posted on 11/18/2005 9:26:29 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Jay777

Still sending your kids to gov't schools?


5 posted on 11/18/2005 9:26:39 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Jay777

I agree with Mark Levin, eliminate the 9th Circus and start over!


6 posted on 11/18/2005 9:26:49 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Jay777
To the few common-sense parents left in California, you should either:

a) move out of the state, or

b) sign over ALL parental rights over to the State because they're gonna steal 'em from you anyway.

Thank God I don't live in California...

7 posted on 11/18/2005 9:26:58 AM PST by kromike
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To: Jay777
Good, now a teacher has the right to have children play act being Christians for a few weeks. After all, as the 9th circus ruled, it's not forcing any religion on anyone
8 posted on 11/18/2005 9:28:12 AM PST by Russ_in_NC
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To: Jay777
"On the final exam they were asked to critique elements of Muslim culture."

I want to see a copy of that exam.

9 posted on 11/18/2005 9:28:38 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Borax Queen; sweetliberty; Miss Behave; Salamander; VeniVidiVici; rwfromkansas
Christian students and parents cannot sue a school district where some seventh-graders pretended to be Muslims for three weeks during a course in world history, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the role-playing game was not a religious exercise that violated anybody’s constitutional rights.

I thought perhaps you all might be interested in the latest....and I kinda think it fits in with the "Happy Holiday" "Holiday Tree" theme.

10 posted on 11/18/2005 9:29:39 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Jay777

Break up the 9th Circuit.


11 posted on 11/18/2005 9:30:18 AM PST by counterpunch (~ Let O'Connor Go Home! ~)
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To: Jay777; USF; Fred Nerks; Justanobody; Dark Skies

I'm SURE the ACLU will be all over this!


12 posted on 11/18/2005 9:30:36 AM PST by jan in Colorado (The ENEMEDIA will do all it can to spread a lie and conceal the Truth!)
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To: Jay777
...the unit on Muslim history, culture and religion that is part of the state’s seventh-grade history curriculum.

...which is why my children will NOT be in a public school in 7th grade...

13 posted on 11/18/2005 9:30:48 AM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: kromike; Jay777

9th Circuit Court of Appeals Opinions Jurisdictions includes California, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Montana, Idaho, Nevada, Alaska, Hawaii, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands.


14 posted on 11/18/2005 9:30:59 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: kellynla

Can Congress just create a new 9th circuit (or a 9th, 10th and 11th) and just fire the old judges? Do you need impeachment for that?


15 posted on 11/18/2005 9:31:32 AM PST by AmishDude (Mathematics -- better than science, harder than science, and always true. Always.)
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To: Jay777
Brooke Carlin encouraged her students to play at being Muslims - adopt Muslim names, recite a line from a prayer

According to Islamic law, anyone who recites the Shahada ("There is no *** but Allah and Mohammed is his *****") becomes a Muslim. That is the method of conversion.

If you were tricked into saying it, it is up to a Sharia court to decide if you are an apostate who deserves the death penalty.

16 posted on 11/18/2005 9:31:57 AM PST by Alouette (Gaza: Too small to be a country, too large to be an insane asylum (thanx: Pettigru).)
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To: Jay777

Thanks for the ping. The 9th Circus is insane, and so is California. The latest is that Meathead (Rob Reiner) has enough ballot signatures to get an initiative on at the next election for increased taxes on the "rich" (which to a dem is anyone making over $30,000/year) for government-funded daycare!!! Daycare!! Can you believe it!?!?! We're f***ing nuts out here!


17 posted on 11/18/2005 9:35:10 AM PST by hsalaw
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To: jan in Colorado
I'm SURE the ACLU will be all over this!

When this story first broke a couple of years ago, I e-mailed the ACLU at their referral address on their website and suggested they may want the case, and that it would be good for them to take, since people thought they just went after Christianity. I was SO surprised that they never replied...

18 posted on 11/18/2005 9:35:14 AM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: jan in Colorado
Brooke Carlin encouraged her students to play at being Muslims - adopt Muslim names, recite a line from a prayer

If they recited the shahada they can be considered converts to islam.

Oh and you know what the penalty for leaving islam is.

Wonder if they explained that to these kids.

19 posted on 11/18/2005 9:35:45 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: AmishDude

"Can Congress just create a new 9th circuit (or a 9th, 10th and 11th) and just fire the old judges? Do you need impeachment for that?"

that's above my paygrade. LOL
but according to Mark Levin they could eliminate it and start over...
they're already talking about splitting the 9th Circus.


20 posted on 11/18/2005 9:36:01 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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