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How To Lose A War: The Sequel (Ollie North)
GOP USA ^ | 11-18-05 | Oliver North

Posted on 11/17/2005 8:22:10 PM PST by smoothsailing

How To Lose A War: The Sequel

By Oliver North

November 18, 2005

Since October of 2001, our FOX News "War Stories" unit has been documenting the remarkable young Americans fighting the Global War on Terror. We have covered thousands of them on the decks of ships in the Persian Gulf, on combat patrols in the shadow of the Hindu Kush, in gunfights along the banks of the Tigris and Euphrates and gone to hospitals in Iraq, Germany and the U.S. with the wounded. Throughout, there has been a common bond among these "warriors of Sept. 11" -- a steadfast resolve that they could win the war. Now, for the first time since I accompanied the initial U.S. combat units heading into Kandahar, Afghanistan, I'm hearing something different -- a loss of confidence in the final outcome.

Over the course of the last ten days, I've met with scores of those I'd previously covered overseas. These soldiers, sailors, airmen, Guardsmen and Marines are now in "stateside" assignments at Camp Lejeune and Fort Bragg, N.C., at Miramar Air Station in California, at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio and here in Hawaii. Many of them expect to be back in the fight -- some of them soon. But recent reversals -- not on the battlefield but in Washington -- have caused nearly all of those I talked to on this trip to question whether we are suddenly in danger of losing the war they have been fighting.

This sudden loss of assurance in our fighting forces has nothing to do with casualty figures, troop levels, the leaders prosecuting the war in the field or new acts of terror by a ruthless enemy. Rather, the anxieties I'm now hearing from those I have covered in combat come in questions like: "Do you think that they are going to pull us out before we've finished the mission?" and "Will we abandon Iraq like we abandoned Vietnam?" Interestingly, not one of the thousands of young Americans I have covered in Iraq or Afghanistan has ever asked about or commented upon pre-war intelligence.

For more than two years the so-called mainstream media, the far left and some in Congress have been making trite comparisons between Vietnam and Iraq. Having spent a significant amount of time in both conflicts, about the only parallels I have seen in the two wars have been that bullets still wound and kill, and spilled blood is still red. But another common thread now ties the two hostilities together -- political cowardice in Washington, D.C.

On Tuesday this week, with the Commander in Chief traveling in Asia, the Democrat leadership in the U.S. Senate introduced a proposal that would have set a fixed date for withdrawing American troops from Iraq. The measure was defeated 58 to 40, but an amended version, setting 2006 as a "period of significant transition creating conditions for the phased redeployment of United States forces from Iraq," passed by an overwhelming 79-19 margin.

Though the White House and some Republican lawmakers sounded the trumpets of victory for defeating the Democrats' hard-and-fast timetable, the message to the troops is clear: No matter where we stand in the war on terror -- if the Senate has its way, we're "pulling out" in 2006. Abu Musab al Zarqawi's "al Qaeda in Iraq" terrorist organization immediately claimed victory and exhorted his followers to "hold on." Officials in Iraq's interim government, intent on providing a secure election on Dec. 15, were publicly muted in response to the votes, expressing hopes in an official statement that "Iraqi security forces are becoming increasingly effective." Americans in uniform -- both in-theatre and at home -- were stunned.

Major General William Webster, commanding the U.S. Army's 3rd Infantry Division in Iraq said that "setting a date would mean that the 221 soldiers I've lost this year, that their lives will have been lost in vain." A U.S. Marine colonel, recently returned from Iraq, called it "a formula for disaster." And universally those I have met with here in Hawaii, from the U.S. Army's 25th Infantry Division to the 1st Marine Brigade, to the sailors of the fleet, to the wounded at Tripler Army Hospital -- all expressed anger and frustration with statements like:

"We've fought well." "We're helping to create a democracy." "Don't they want us to win?"

That's a valid question. Even Senate Republicans don't seem to know what they want. As the "World's Greatest Deliberative Body" was exploring how to set a "date certain" for withdrawing troops without setting a certain date, Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said, "Americans do not cut and run, Americans do not abandon their commitments and Americans do not abandon their friends." But he voted for the measure anyway.

About the only ones in Washington who seem to know what they want are the leaders of the Democrat party. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who voted for war in 2002, waited until President Bush was overseas meeting with the Prime Minister of Japan to proclaim that, "Democrats and Republicans acknowledged that staying the course is not the way to go." He then summed it all up by adding, "This is a vote of no confidence on the Bush-administration policy in Iraq."

William Jefferson Blythe Clinton knows what this is all about. Though the Clinton administration had advocated the overthrow of Saddam in 1998, he told a university audience in Dubai this week that the Iraq war was "a big mistake." Like former President Jimmy Carter, Mr. Clinton apparently no longer feels bound by the affront to our troops or the traditional protocols that once governed political discourse while overseas.

In the House, Pennsylvania's John Murtha, an influential Democrat who voted in favor of Iraq war in 2002, called for the immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops saying, "it is evident that continued military action in Iraq is not in the best interests of the United States of America, the Iraqi people or the Persian Gulf region."

The GOP leadership, senior administration officials and the president need to dramatically alter the debate. They need to go to Iraq -- talk to the troops and reassure them that we will stay there long enough to get the job done and not one second longer. Notwithstanding the "peace in our time" appeasement sentiment sweeping through our capital, it's not too late. Republicans need to realize that wining the war in Iraq is the only issue that really matters right now. It is more important than Medicare, the next Supreme Court justice, foreign trade deals or tax reform. If we lose the war -- and we could -- none of these things will matter.

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COPYRIGHT 2005 CREATORS SYNDICATE INC.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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1 posted on 11/17/2005 8:22:11 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Calpernia

You may want to ping your Iraq ping list -- it breaks your heart how dedicated our troops are and what traitors the MSM and Dems are.

"This sudden loss of assurance in our fighting forces has nothing to do with casualty figures, troop levels, the leaders prosecuting the war in the field or new acts of terror by a ruthless enemy. Rather, the anxieties I'm now hearing from those I have covered in combat come in questions like: "Do you think that they are going to pull us out before we've finished the mission?" and "Will we abandon Iraq like we abandoned Vietnam?" Interestingly, not one of the thousands of young Americans I have covered in Iraq or Afghanistan has ever asked about or commented upon pre-war intelligence. "


2 posted on 11/17/2005 8:26:48 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: smoothsailing

WE WILL NOT REWRITE HISTORY & WE WILL NOT REPEAT HISTORY!

 

We have to make this a battle cry

 


3 posted on 11/17/2005 8:27:23 PM PST by Not a 60s Hippy (They are SOCIALISTS, not Progressive, Liberal, Left Wing, Democrats, Special interest groups.)
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks to the anti-American propaganda from leftists in this country, I bet the enlistment and reenlistment of soldiers drops dramatically.

Military effectiveness will go to hell and who will the voters blame? Remember, 49% voted for Kerry. That means 49% do not care!


4 posted on 11/17/2005 8:30:06 PM PST by Prost1 (If you fight, fight hard, fight dirty, fight to win!)
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To: smoothsailing

The current strategy of cordon, clear, hold with Iraqi forces is a formula for success.

It makes perfect sense when seen in the context of 90% of the Iraqi provinces being calm.

That prospect of an elected government and a military success is really troubling some people. They don't want us to get there. That will ensure conservative domination for years. Therefore, they need to pull out all stops to prevent it. If they can't, they'll pull out all stops to redefine it.


5 posted on 11/17/2005 8:33:42 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: smoothsailing
It is more important than Medicare, the next Supreme Court justice, foreign trade deals or tax reform. If we lose the war -- and we could -- none of these things will matter.

Try to explain that to a liberal. He won't agree because he won't get it. The matter between his ears is NOT gray....

6 posted on 11/17/2005 8:35:39 PM PST by Just Lori (Tony Schaeffer, Curt Weldon, Able Danger....... PAY ATTENTION.)
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To: smoothsailing

GBU Ollie!


7 posted on 11/17/2005 8:37:53 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: smoothsailing; All

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The enemy within TED KENNEDY is...

trying to do to Iraq what...

he did to Vietnam 30 years ago =


Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

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8 posted on 11/17/2005 8:39:36 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: xzins
they'll pull out all stops to redefine it

And if they succeed, we will need to go to ground because WWIII will be brought to our front doors in Anytown, USA.

Those people are insane if they believe otherwise.

9 posted on 11/17/2005 8:47:30 PM PST by Humidston
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To: Prost1
I hope all you fun loving folks that thought that bashing Bush over Meirs, the length of the White house grass, and other equally important things was wise, now realize that our enemies will use everything and anything to destroy the President, EVEN IF IT MEANS SACRIFICING OUR TROOPS AND LOSING THE WAR If the Rats get Bush, we wish for the 9/11 days.
10 posted on 11/17/2005 8:48:29 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: smoothsailing
They don't want Iraq to become stabilized and become a democracy that might actually allie with us in the future. So many of them by their speaches show how deeply ill-informed they are. Few probably spend any time in an effort to actually become well informed. Their words give them away. Those Islamofacists are waiting patiently. They laught as they see how they are going to win in the end, just identically as North Vietnam did back when. And the powers that be that own these L/MSMs see they are the ones that have won the battle. They have with their craft carefully molded the outcome which is apparently is unfolding before or eyes over the past year and a half.
Clearly the POTUS must break with tradition and start giving such forcefull increminating speaches, well crafted so that even the dummest Americans wakes up and says..........Oh my God...........now I see what he is trying to say. Or the gig is up.
11 posted on 11/17/2005 8:51:22 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: xzins
To me this is the beginning of deja vu all over again, as Yogi Berra would say.Except when he said it,it was funny

Not this time.

I was going to college on the GI Bill,after returning from Vietnam,when the Democrats cut off funding to our war effort then.

It wasn't the military that lost that war, it was the Democrat Party.

The President,the miltary and still some Republicans are steadfast today.All of us have to support them and not let them down.

I know you will,xzins, but I just had to rant a little bit.

12 posted on 11/17/2005 8:52:13 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
"Republicans need to realize that wining the war in Iraq is the only issue that really matters right now."

Col. North is exactly right.

Unfortunately many of our GOP leaders... office holders are only interested in matching, with different verbage, the Democrat position in an election year.

I am through with the bastards.

13 posted on 11/17/2005 8:53:41 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: smoothsailing

I really wish the Bush Administration had a maverick thinker who could find new ways to reach the American people. They coasted so long-- some people thay can't reach anymore.


14 posted on 11/17/2005 8:54:31 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: Marine_Uncle
See my post #12,Uncle.It's always a pleasure to share a thread with you, my FRiend.
15 posted on 11/17/2005 8:57:05 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: ImpBill; jimrob
I am through with the bastards.

Agreed. Maybe it's time for another March for Justice???

16 posted on 11/17/2005 8:57:31 PM PST by Humidston
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To: Humidston
Actually, and I mean this quite seriously, it is time for more hours on the Golf Course. I stink at it, but don't get nearly as frustrated pinning my hopes on a hopeless political party ... machine.
17 posted on 11/17/2005 8:59:33 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
You're right,Ronnie.The K twins,Teddy&Johnny
18 posted on 11/17/2005 9:00:52 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

I started college, too, in 1974, the year Nixon resigned and the final year in Vietnam. I had just gotten out of the army on my first ets in order to do college and seminary.

It was such a demoralizing time. I remember the news showing helicopters laden with people fleeing. Then the curtain fell. Then there were sporadic reports of the mass murders, boat people, and inability for the hypocrites to report on the events. (No free press at that time and place.)

I hate our socialist MSM and our socialist politicians. From my guts, I despise them, detest them, wish them the worst. May they be accursed. Hell is too good for them.


19 posted on 11/17/2005 9:02:22 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: smoothsailing
"It is not hard to do the right thing.

It's hard to know what the right thing is.

Once you know what's right, …it's hard not to do it."

(Ben Kingsley in The Confession)

Now is the time. This is the issue. This is the fight. We must stand up to these bastards and take it to them. The traitors in our midst must be driven off the stage and the jihadis must be eliminated from the gene pool.

20 posted on 11/17/2005 9:02:32 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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