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College Professor to Student: Real Freedom will come when American Soldiers Murder Superiors
Young America’s Foundation. ^ | Nov 17, 2005 | Young America’s Foundation.

Posted on 11/17/2005 1:37:43 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks

HERNDON, VA –Warren Community College English professor, John Daly, said that “Real freedom will come when soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors.” Rebecca Beach, a freshman at Warren Community College in Washington, New Jersey, received this unexpected reply to a recent email she sent the faculty at her school announcing the appearance of decorated Iraq war hero, Lt. Col. Scott Rutter, on Thursday, November 17 to discuss America’s accomplishments in Iraq.

In the email, Daly told Rebecca that he will ask students in his English and writing classes to boycott the event and also vowed “to expose [her] right-wing, anti-people politics until groups like [Rebecca’s] won’t dare show their face on a college campus.” Daly’s mean spirited and hateful comments were directed at Rebecca for organizing Lt. Col. Scott Rutter and for hanging up fliers contrasting the number of people killed under communism to those liberated under Ronald Reagan.

Since Professor John Daly has created a hostile learning environment for Rebecca, she is demanding that Warren Community College President William Austin institute seminars on free speech and sensitivity to teach intolerant leftists, such as Daly, to be respectful of differing opinion

Daly’s insane email to Rebecca also claimed that “CAPTIALISM has killed many more” people than communism [emphasis his] and that the “poor and working class people” are recruited to “fight and die for EXXON and other corporations.”

“John Daly was hired to teach English, not to verbally attack students and lead leftist protests,” said Jason Mattera, spokesman for Young America’s Foundation.

The full unedited text of Daly’s email follows.

November 13, 2005

Dear Rebecca:

I am asking my students to boycott your event. I am also going to ask others to boycott it. Your literature and signs in the entrance lobby look like fascist propaganda and is extremely offensive. Your main poster "Communism killed 100,000,000" is not only untrue, but ignores the fact that CAPITALISM has killed many more and the evidence for that can be seen in the daily news papers. The U.S. government can fly to dominate the people of Iraq in 12 hours, yet it took them five days to assist the people devastated by huricane Katrina. Racism and profits were key to their priorities. Exxon, by the way, made $9 Billion in profits this last quarter--their highest proft margin ever. Thanks to the students of WCCC and other poor and working class people who are recruited to fight and die for EXXON and other corporations who earning megaprofits from their imperialist plunders. If you want to count the number of deaths based on political systems, you can begin with the more than a million children who have died in Iraq from U.S.-imposed sanctions and war. Or the million African American people who died from lack of access to healthcare in the US over the last 10 years.

I will continue to expose your right-wing, anti-people politics until groups like your won't dare show their face on a college campus. Real freedom will come when soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors and fight for just causes and for people's needs--such freedom fighters can be counted throughout American history and they certainly will be counted again.

Prof. John Daly


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: academia; americahaters; anamericansoldier; bushhaters; campuscommies; campusradicals; commienut; hannity; leftismoncampus; leftistlunatics; phdork; sedition; stuckonstupid; wccc; yaf
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To: Lloyd227
English professor John Daly replied: "Real freedom will come when soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors."

I wonder how the university administration will respond. And, I wonder how they would respond if an e-mail included the following;" A student replied: "Real freedom will come when students at Warren Community College in New Jersey turn their guns on their professors."
261 posted on 11/18/2005 4:05:18 AM PST by LiberationIT
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To: SMARTY

"Sounds like sedition to me."

You kidding? Sounds like grounds for tenure in todays colleges!


262 posted on 11/18/2005 4:06:32 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker

I work at a university. So, you won't get any argument from me on that one.


263 posted on 11/18/2005 4:10:43 AM PST by SMARTY
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To: LiberationIT; MAK1179; briansb
"I wonder how the university administration will respond"

Let's find out. Some email addresses you may want to use:

Board of Trustees:
kdsfarm@prodigy.net
Freeholderdimaio
echamberlain@co.warren.nj.us

Select Staff email addresses:
austin@warren.edu
mdevlin@warren.edu
jpdalyca@yahoo.com
bacon@warren.edu
jbeeler@warren.edu
collins@warren.edu
depalma@warren.edu, guerin@warren.edu, dflorentine@warren.edu
shorwath@warren.edu
pratt@warren.edu
sintich@warren.edu
treichler@warren.edu

Cheers,
Lloyd

264 posted on 11/18/2005 4:11:07 AM PST by Lloyd227
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To: Cailleach

ping


265 posted on 11/18/2005 4:17:05 AM PST by kalee
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To: Clint N. Suhks; All
Since John Daly is an English professor, the words of Shakespeare seem appropriate to express my anger and disgust.

King Richard II (Act 1 Scene 1): Henry Bolingbroke speaks these words to the Duke of Norfolk, Thomas Mowbray, accusing him of high treason:

Thou art a traitor and a miscreant,
Too good to be so and too bad to live,

Since the more fair and crystal is the sky,
The uglier seem the clouds that in it fly.
Once more, the more to aggravate the note,
With a foul traitor's name stuff I thy throat;
And wish, so please my sovereign, ere I move,
What my tongue speaks my right drawn sword may prove.

Incidentally, Richard II eventually banished Thomas Mowbray from the country for life. Not a bad idea for Daly to suffer the same fate in my opinion

266 posted on 11/18/2005 5:53:42 AM PST by Unmarked Package (A humble exterior, but filled with many surprises.)
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To: snowrip
I don't think the apology will hold water. They try to treat Daly's email as a private communication between individuals, but looking at Daly's email reveals it is not simply an email between individuals.

He speaks first and formost as a professor as may be seen here
I am asking my students to boycott your event.

Skipping over much that is both ignorant and repugnant we get to this outright attempt at intimidation
I will continue to expose your right-wing, anti-people politics until groups like your won't dare show their face on a college campus.

And in case she doesn't get the message addressed to her personally he adds the line that has garnered so much attention
Real freedom will come when soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors ...

While I am only a lowly systems engineer, I did pay close attention in my writing classes and a linguistics class. What I see in Day's email is a attempt to intimidate a student with the clear threat of violence.

One has to ask, if Daly is going to advocate soldiers shoot their superiors what is he implying should be done to someone he has labeled as fascist, right-wing, anti-people by 'right' thinking individuals such as himself. Clearly anything could be justified in his small mind.

Finally the apology also ignores Daly's signature line clearly showing once again he was speaking as a staff member at the school when he uses 'Prof' as he has no more than a master's degree according to his bio.
Prof. John Daly

No company would keep any employee attempting to intimidate a customer of the company - especially when speaking as a member of the company.

Bye Bye Mr. Daly.

RileyD, nwJ

267 posted on 11/18/2005 6:38:48 AM PST by RileyD, nwJ ("Only the humble are sane." anon)
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To: All
for the record

 

 

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Press Release
November 17, 2005

Warren County Community College is a "students first" college where learning without limits is always the main goal. We maintain a mission of building a community of learners through accessible, quality learning opportunities designed to meet personal aspirations for all students.

It has been brought to the administration's attention that a part-time instructor, Mr. John Daly, speaking for himself and using his personal email, sent a message to a student representing the Young Americans for Freedom in response to a personal email from her requesting him to announce an upcoming event on the campus. Mr Daly responded to her alone, and expressed his own personal views regarding his beliefs about this group.

The viewpoints of this professor in no way depict the views of Warren County Community College, its administration, or the Board of Trustees. The College does however support the constitution, the first amendment, and the right to free speech.

Additionally, Mr. Daly's message was sent as a one-to-one message, via e-mail, to one person, and not to the college community. Finally, the College is viewing this message as a personnel issue and will be addressing it according to the policies and procedures of the College.

Dr. Austin, college president stated, "I firmly believe every employee and student has first amendment rights, no matter how repugnant I personally find Mr. Daly's statements. Our attorneys have advised us of our obligation to follow state laws, board policies, and college due process in regards to any personnel matter. We are now investigating this matter further."

 


268 posted on 11/18/2005 6:39:25 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69; briansb; MAK1179
Bump this back to the top. Keep emailing or calling these people until Mr. Daly is in the unemployment line and that "apology" from the school is re-written.

Board of Trustees:

kdsfarm@prodigy.net
Freeholderdimaio@aol.com
 
echamberlain@co.warren.nj.us


Select Staff email addresses:

austin@warren.edu
mdevlin@warren.edu

jpdalyca@yahoo.com

bacon@warren.edu
jbeeler@warren.edu
collins@warren.edu
depalma@warren.edu
guerin@warren.edu  
dflorentine@warren.edu

shorwath@warren.edu

pratt@warren.edu

sintich@warren.edu

treichler@warren.edu


Cheers,
Lloyd

269 posted on 11/18/2005 7:29:49 AM PST by Lloyd227
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To: SandRat
Have reported the sleeze Prof to the Men In Black STRONGLY recommending that US Code Title 18, PART I, CHAPTER 115, § 2388. Activities affecting armed forces during war, be acted on by them and the DOJ.

NFS? Your balls be bigger than mine. LOL

270 posted on 11/18/2005 9:18:10 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: Lloyd227
Thanks for your email list...just sent this response to all of them...


Press Release
November 17, 2005

Mr. Daly's message was sent as a one-to-one message, via e-mail, to one person, and not to the college community.

That’s BS! Daly’s first words in his email were "I am asking my students to boycott your event. "…hardly a one-to-one "message."

And then he goes on to say "I will continue to expose your right-wing, anti-people politics until groups like your won't dare show their face on a college campus."

That’s a threat to a student, which violates your own anti harassment policy. SEE:

http://www.warren.cc.nj.us/docs/Student%20handbook%2005%20to%2006.pdf
271 posted on 11/18/2005 9:49:35 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: Melas

To suggest that putting the man on trial makes the government the enemy is ludicrous. You've been brainwashed by the left into thinking that the right to free speech doesn't come with responsibility.


272 posted on 11/18/2005 10:05:39 AM PST by oneofmany (Tolerance is the virtue of a man with no convictions - G.K. Chesterton(The Apostle of Common Sense)
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To: All

PTTP Bump


273 posted on 11/18/2005 10:09:24 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Can make it hard to walk sometimes, then westerners are supposed to look bow-legged. LOL


274 posted on 11/18/2005 10:31:36 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Lloyd227

It seems that the College has cut its website off from non-univerity personnel.


275 posted on 11/18/2005 11:17:59 AM PST by superdad
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To: SeaDragon

per discussion


276 posted on 11/18/2005 11:22:41 AM PST by RikaStrom (The number one rule of the Kama Sutra is that you both be on the same page.../Exeter 051705)
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To: superdad; briansb; MAK1179
"It seems that the College has cut its website off from non-univerity personnel."

Not surprised... I'm sure they're being hit with a LOT of traffic. Of course we already have the email addresses we need. Keep those cards and letters flowing folks!

:-)

Cheers,
Lloyd

277 posted on 11/18/2005 11:58:30 AM PST by Lloyd227
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To: RileyD, nwj
You are assuming that the hierarchy of that college didn't knowingly hire him and encourage his kind of thinking.
278 posted on 11/18/2005 12:03:16 PM PST by tioga
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To: superdad; MAK1179; briansb
Well, isn't this special.   Warren County Community College is afraid to let the outside world see their website

Pertinent email addresses are:

Mr. Daly

jpdalyca@yahoo.com

Board of Trustees:

kdsfarm@prodigy.net
Freeholderdimaio@aol.com

echamberlain@co.warren.nj.us

Select Staff email addresses:

austin@warren.edu
mdevlin@warren.edu

bacon@warren.edu
jbeeler@warren.edu

collins@warren.edu
depalma@warren.edu

guerin@warren.edu

dflorentine@warren.edu

shorwath@warren.edu

pratt@warren.edu

sintich@warren.edu

treichler@warren.edu

Cheers,
Lloyd

 

279 posted on 11/18/2005 12:09:01 PM PST by Lloyd227
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To: MAK1179; briansb

Professor defends position on ending the war in Iraq

Campus controversy. U.S. using Middle East as a "profit source," adjunct faculty member claims.
Friday, November 18, 2005
By SARA LEITCH
The Express-Times

A part-time professor at Warren County Community College stands by some controversial comments he e-mailed to a student there that have raised eyebrows around the country.

John Daly, an adjunct English professor, said Thursday he believes the war in Iraq will end only when American soldiers turn their guns on their commanders.

"The only possible end for the war is not going to be from our politicians, who represent corporations," Daly said. "We're going to stay in Iraq and occupy the Middle East as a profit source that will only change when the students at WCCC who are sent there to die for oil profits decide they're not going to die there."

Daly said he was a member of International ANSWER, an anti-war group. He e-mailed WCCC freshman Rebecca Beach on Sunday, responding to her request to tell his students about a campus visit by retired Lt. Col. Scott Rutter. Daly's message eventually reached conservative broadcaster Sean Hannity, who read it Thursday during his nationally syndicated radio program.

Rutter, now a Fox News commentator, spoke Thursday about his experiences in Iraq as a battalion commander in the first and current wars in Iraq, and on the way the media report on Iraq.

Beach, a pre-law and political science major, founded the WCCC chapter of Young Americans for Freedom, a national conservative activist group. The group has about 15 members, Beach said.

The group used $1,000 in student activities fees to bring Rutter to campus. The Young America's Foundation, which brings conservative speakers to college campuses, co-sponsored Rutter's talk.

"The administration at WCCC believes Rebecca Beach is an innocent student acting alone, but I recognized her literature right away as being part of a national right-wing movement," Daly said. "Her group is an ultra right-wing, possibly fascist, group."

Beach, who said she has never met Daly, said she invited Rutter to campus as part of her group's celebration of Freedom Week, which commemorates Veterans Day and the toppling of the Berlin Wall on Nov. 9, 1989.

She said she was shocked by Daly's message.

"We were just celebrating and raising awareness," Beach said. "We want free speech and tolerance, and they want it for themselves and not for others. That's just utterly ridiculous."

Reporter Sara Leitch can be reached at 908-475-8044 or by e-mail at sleitch@express-times.com .

© 2005  The Express Times
© 2005 NJ.com All Rights Reserved.

Go get em boys...

Cheers,
Lloyd

280 posted on 11/18/2005 12:28:38 PM PST by Lloyd227
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