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The return of the dreaded 11 Commandments of a THANKSGIVING DINNER
CookingWithCarlo.com ^ | Nov. 17 2005 | Carlo3b, Dad, Chef, Author

Posted on 11/17/2005 9:19:47 AM PST by carlo3b

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To: queenkathy

For a simple gravy, I usually just take the pan I've cooked in, discard any grease (but save just a little), and SAVE those brown bits that have formed in the bottom of the pan. Deglaze with wine, reduce a little, add a little broth, and then thicken with sine corn starch (or flour) disolved in water. You have to let it heat until it boils before you know how thick it will turn out. If it isn't thick enough, add more corn starch.

For giblet gravy to go with a Thankgiving turkey, try this recipe. I haven't made it, but hubby has, and it was outstanding:




Perfect Giblet Gravy:

Giblets, wing tips and neck bone from turkey
2 quarts cold water
1 onion, chopped
1 to 2 ribs celery, chopped
3 tbs chopped parsely, or to taste
Fat (can be poultry fat, butter, or margarine)
flour
salt and freshly ground black pepper to taste

While turkey cooks (or the day before), cover giblets, wing tips and neck bone with water in a large pot. Add onion, celery and parsley, simmer 2 hours. Strain broth and reserve for gravy.

Pick meat from neck and wing tips; finely chop all giblets and meat; set aside. Pour broth into bowl; let stand a few minutes or chill in refrigerator until fat rises to the top. Skim off fat; reserve liquid for gravy.

For each 2 cups gravy desired, use 3 tablespoons fat, 3 tablespoons four and 2 cups broth. Measure fat into saucepan. Over low heat, blend in four, cook until bubbly, stirring constantly with a wire whisk.

If desired, brown fat and flour slightly to enhance color and flavor. Remove pan from heat. Stir in broth; whisk constantly until blended with fat-flour mixture. Add chopped giblets and meat. Simmer gently 5 minutes. Season with salt and pepper. Makes 8 (1/4 cup) servings.




Since most of this can be done the day ahead (first 2 paragraphs of instructions), that doesn't leave much to be done on Turkey day to finish it up. I like anything that I can do ahead of time!


101 posted on 11/17/2005 10:58:10 AM PST by RedWhiteBlue
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To: carlo3b
Wow, does that look good. Thanks!
102 posted on 11/17/2005 10:58:52 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Aquinasfan

Our three rules...eat food...take nap...wake up eat more food.


103 posted on 11/17/2005 10:59:23 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: alisasny
LOL.. I have no idea how but over the past few years I have assumed this job (I'm only 31 :)) Everywhere I go I get, "Suzanne, please carve the bird/ham, you do such a good job"
I have 2 theories on why.
1. My Knives, I bring my own where ever I go. Henkels Professional Series and a steel or sharpener. You knives need to be mega sharp to carve/cut well.
2. I throw everyone out of the kitchen, wash my hands very well and basically disassemble the bird or ham with my hands and a small pairing knife. I then carve the small sections down to a platter and come out all smiles...
I know, it's cheating, I am sure that I will be found out soon. Happy Thanksgiving!
Suzanne
104 posted on 11/17/2005 11:03:28 AM PST by SuzanneWeeks (There is no one more militant than an antiwar protester)
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To: carlo3b

Please add me to your list....THANKS!

HAPPY PRE-THANKGIVING BLESSINGS TO ALL!!!


105 posted on 11/17/2005 11:16:59 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: SuzanneWeeks

Suzanne thanks for the laughs...just reading that put me in such a better mood about the whole idea of carving.

I do have a brilliant Henkel carving set that I store with my fine China only for special occasions.. ...but I promise I will rip off the legs and wings bare handed LOL...

Uncle Billy always brought his own knives also believe it or not until a few years ago when I got this new set.

How long do you let the turkey sit before they ask you to carve? I have no problem with the turkey being served room temp. provided the gravy is super hot.


106 posted on 11/17/2005 11:26:49 AM PST by alisasny
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To: carlo3b
I was looking at your Thanksgiving thread from last year just a few days ago. Thanks for doing this!
107 posted on 11/17/2005 11:27:18 AM PST by lizma
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To: carlo3b

Yummy! Thanks for the ping!


108 posted on 11/17/2005 11:36:00 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: alisasny
My Mom starts the turkey around midnight the night before and lets it rest most of the day (underneath HEAVY DUTY foil) I normally show up around noon and carve at 1. So it has been resting for a while.
Break out those knives girl! And make up silly rules about them so they do not get damaged (No one will come with in 3 feet of one of my knives under penalty of death!)
109 posted on 11/17/2005 11:37:35 AM PST by SuzanneWeeks (There is no one more militant than an antiwar protester)
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To: carlo3b

Thank you for the ping and for the wonderful recipes! Have a happy and blessed Thanksgiving Carlo!


110 posted on 11/17/2005 11:38:13 AM PST by happymom
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To: carlo3b

Hi Carlo,
You listed whole milk for the Honey Butter Cornbread, and around here the "whole milk" is so watered down from what it used to be that I wonder if that will change the results of the recipe.


111 posted on 11/17/2005 11:55:10 AM PST by kitkat (Democrat=Socialist=Communist. Hillary the RED)
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To: carlo3b

Carlo, I have been cooking holiday meals for family and friends for too many years to count. (yep, I'm old)

Generally, there are about 20 to 30 people in my home for these meals. I am never shy about asking people to bring side dishes and extra desserts. After all, I do the turkey, the ham, dressing, potatoes, gravy, home made rolls, and pecan pies. Everyone really does love to help.

After the first 15 or 20 years of doing this, it finally dawned on me. The turkey DOES NOT have to be cooked on Thanksgiving Day! What a relief to me to learn this! I always roast the bird, carve it, make gravy, and refridgerate it all the day before. Of course, we don't have the presentation of the whole golden bird on the table waiting to be carved by Gramps, but no body wants to wait that long anyway.

Oh yes, I've been brining poultry and pork for about 20 years. Just have to watch that your gravy isn't too salty.

Happy Thanksgiving and a very Merry Christmas to all! (hope the ACLU isn't reading this)


112 posted on 11/17/2005 12:11:10 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: carlo3b

A blessed Thanksgiving to you and your family Carlo.

THANKS for this thread.

Cindy
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113 posted on 11/17/2005 12:20:02 PM PST by Cindy
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To: carlo3b

Carlo, I got lucky this year. Since I don't eat Turkey, my momo is making me lobster! YEAH!


114 posted on 11/17/2005 12:21:03 PM PST by Clemenza (Ticking Away the Moments that Make up the Dog Day)
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To: queenkathy

SIGH! I've never seen a recipe book that REALLY tells how to make good homemade gravy. I learned from my own failures. And I sure did have some failures. So, here's how to make the best gravy you ever tasted:

ALWAYS make the gravy in the pan you used to cook the turkey. (The same is true for any other meat.)
Once the turkey is removed from the pan, place the pan on the burner.
Put in a cup or two of warm water
Turn heat to med. high
Stir to release all the good drippings from the pan. THAT'S where the good flavor starts.
Add chicken cubes, or crystals. The number of cubes or crystals will depend on how big your turkey is. I always start with four cubes and add more when I taste the gravy as it's cooking. (Don't burn your mouth on that spoon. LOL)

Add a couple of cups of HOT water.

AND HERE COMES THE REAL SECRET.
Cook the gravy down while you prepare other foods, but keep an eye on the gravy

ADD STILL MORE HOT WATER
Cook the gravy down some more

If the flavor is not yet scrumptious, then:

ADD STILL MORE HOT WATER and cook the gravy until it's ALMOST the consistancy you want.

The secret is in cooking the gravy a long time to let the flavor blossom.

Then mix flour and warm water into a light paste and add it to the gravy. Stir until you get the right consistency.

If you have too much fat in the gravy, drain some of it off.

SERVE




115 posted on 11/17/2005 12:25:31 PM PST by kitkat (Democrat=Socialist=Communist. Hillary the RED)
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To: carlo3b

Bookmarking...thanks for all your effort...appreciate it


116 posted on 11/17/2005 12:50:00 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Rushmore Rocks; carlo3b

***I always roast the bird, carve it, make gravy, and refridgerate it all the day before.***

Now, THAT'S fascinating, RR. But tell me, how do you reheat the turkey without making it dry? I've always wanted to know that secret.

Carlo, THANK you for this thread.


117 posted on 11/17/2005 12:52:01 PM PST by kitkat (Democrat=Socialist=Communist. Hillary the RED)
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To: carlo3b

Yum!


118 posted on 11/17/2005 1:06:57 PM PST by christie
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To: kitkat

I'm anxious for that reply, too. I would love to cook a turkey the day before, but I don't like it dry.


119 posted on 11/17/2005 1:07:44 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: Conservababe

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120 posted on 11/17/2005 1:12:15 PM PST by varina davis
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