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I've got an idea. Let's start with this "group". As is usual with lieburrals, they want to impose their ideas on everybody else while exempting themselves.
1 posted on 11/17/2005 4:36:57 AM PST by Past Your Eyes
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"The VHE is dedicated to phasing out the human race in the interest of the health of the Earth, founder Les Knight told Wednesday's San Francisco Chronicle."

Mr. Knight should lead by example.


2 posted on 11/17/2005 4:41:21 AM PST by Arm_Bears (If the people lead, the leaders will follow.)
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Well, looking at the bright side, if these moonbats are serious, their visible, active members should never be more than a handful for administrative purposes only.

Surely, if their intentions are honorable, and if they are serious in their commitment, they will dispatch themselves immediately upon announcing their membership.

Anything I can do to help?

4 posted on 11/17/2005 4:43:08 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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Life on this planet will come to an end. The sun will expand and cook this planet eventually.(If you look at how long life has been on this planet and how we got left we are more than halfway there.)Life on Earth will have long since moved elsewhere thanks to the efforts of those evil humans.


6 posted on 11/17/2005 4:47:37 AM PST by Nateman (We are the best of this planet, not its enemy!)
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bfl


7 posted on 11/17/2005 4:49:29 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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At least its "voluntary"
8 posted on 11/17/2005 4:49:33 AM PST by Jedi Jake (www.bingewars.com)
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Why are they still living and breathing and injuring their precious Gaia?


9 posted on 11/17/2005 4:50:04 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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Group wants to see humans extinct

Here's an idea - take a dose of your own medicine and set the example.

There are morons and then there is THIS group of morons!!
10 posted on 11/17/2005 5:02:01 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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"The VHE is dedicated to phasing out the human race in the interest of the health of the Earth, founder Les Knight told Wednesday's San Francisco Chronicle"

Why should we care about the Earth's health? For over a hundred thousand years it's been trying to kill us with hurricanes, eathquakes, tornados, tsumamis, volcanos, etc. I say it's time we fought back.


11 posted on 11/17/2005 5:23:36 AM PST by BadAndy (Note to Democrats: Benedict Arnold also called himself a patriot.)
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Aren't these the same guys who complain about the war, the death penalty, and the a-bomb? Seems like they've got an inconsistent message.


12 posted on 11/17/2005 5:24:10 AM PST by Brilliant
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He or she will have a lifetime consumption of 4,000 barrels of oil, 1.5 million pounds of minerals and 62,000 pounds of animal products that will necessitate the slaughter of 2,000 animals.

But without us here, what good is any of that?

14 posted on 11/17/2005 5:32:15 AM PST by Lee N. Field
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MoveOn.org's next big campaign? When can we expect Cindy MeMeMeehan to arrive for a die-in?
15 posted on 11/17/2005 5:37:41 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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Candidates for the Darwin Award??


16 posted on 11/17/2005 5:43:23 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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Okay Les, you first.


18 posted on 11/17/2005 5:49:13 AM PST by proudmilitarymrs
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After the last man has died, why should we care about the condition of the Earth left behind? Who would be there to see it?

Live fast, die young, leave a pretty corpse, I guess...

20 posted on 11/17/2005 5:52:13 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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lol. that was my first take on the article too.


21 posted on 11/17/2005 5:53:02 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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Tom Clancy, Rainbow 6


22 posted on 11/17/2005 6:06:17 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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This reminds me of the typical "enviro-MENTALists mindset.
They want their little cabin in the woods, but they don't want YOU to have your little cabin in the woods....LOL.


23 posted on 11/17/2005 6:25:27 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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Just think of all the animals who get to live so we can eat them.


24 posted on 11/17/2005 6:28:54 AM PST by tiki
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Although this group may be a bit tongue-in-cheek, the extreme environmentalist groups have always held the position that humans are a danger and a parasite on the Earth, as if we are an abomination that is somehow messing up all the good creatures.

Only humans have the ability to contemplate abstract BS instead of just living our lives, and the arrogance to wish for their own extinction.

If you read the fine print from these wackos, it probably says humans should be extinct 'except for the members of this group'.

25 posted on 11/17/2005 6:42:20 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement, http://www.vhemt.org

Just when I thought these people couldn't get any whackier....I went and read some of their website.

DEATH

Q: Will new viruses, wars, famine, and toxic waste help the cause of human extinction?

No. Epidemics actually strengthen a species if enough of them are living to have an adequate survival rate. With over six billion of us, there is no virus that could get us all. A 99.99% die off would still leave 610,000 naturally-immune survivors to replicate, and in less than 50,000 years we would be right back where we are now. For any disease to simply hold the human population where it is, more than 210,000 of us would have to succumb to it each day. Suffering and death cannot help but hurt.

Millions have died in wars and yet the human family continues to increase. Most of the time, wars encourage both the winners and losers to re-populate. When troops were called up for the Gulf Massacre, sperm banks were taking deposits hand over fist. The net result of war is usually an increase rather than a decrease in total population size.

Resource shortages are dealt with by resorting to mass murder and calling it war, but the results are only temporary. Besides being impractical, killing people is immoral. It should never be considered as a way to improve life on Earth.

The massive die-off of humanity, predicted by so many as a result of our over-shoot of Earth's carrying capacity, is what the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement hopes to avoid.

It's possible that VHEMT will not succeed in staving off ecological collapse. So, couples contemplating procreation may want to consider the possibility that they will be sentencing their off-spring to a rapidly-deteriorating quality of life and unimaginably horrible death.

Something to think about, anyway.


Q. Are we all supposed to kill ourselves?

SUMMARY: Increasing human deaths will not improve population density. Many people are advocating an increase in the death rate to reduce human population numbers. However, increased death has historically increased births. Promoting reproductive freedom, economic opportunity, and education will shrink our masses faster and nicer. 

Grim Reaper to the Rescue?

Will super hero Grim Reaper pull our precious Gaia from the brink of ecological catastrophe in time? Will generous, sweeping strokes of his deadly scythe mow down millions of humans, stopping us before we destroy ourselves and our host?

Grim Reaper's henchmen, Famine, Disease, and War, joined lately by mutant cousin, Plutonium, are harvesting as fast as ever, and haven't kept up with our rank growth.

Yet, despite Death's dismal record for slowing human population growth, some today advocate utilizing more of his services for the benefit of all. They're trying to make the Grim Reaper look good.


© 1990 Clark Dissmeyer

Like Pentti Linkola of Saaksmaki, Finland, quoted in the Wall Street Journal (1) Another world war, he says (in Finnish), would be "a happy occasion for the planet ... If there were a button I could press, I would sacrifice myself without hesitating if it meant millions would die."

He didn't say how many millions he wants to play lemming with, but even 80 million would only eliminate one year's growth. It wouldn't rescue Gaia, and we'd be stuck with all those bodies. Yuck. Even Garrett Hardin, who says that feeding starving people just makes more starving people, balks at Linkola's hard-nosed philosophy: "We have many possibilities which should be explored before we take a strong-arm approach," he cautions.

Weekly World News (2) tells the story of two escaped French chemists, Henri Mevel and Jean-Michael DuPont, who allegedly plan to poison every human on the planet to "save it from pollution and overpopulation." Interpol's Marc Jubert admits, "we don't know exactly what Mevel and DuPont are making but if we don't stop them in time the results will be devastating... They may be mad, but they aren't crazy."

Well, even with their "network of 2,000 radical environmentalists around the world," there's no way they'll even approach Linkola's magic-button body count: a paltry 2% of us.

Equally incredible is a Newhouse News Service (3) story about former CIA chief of counter-terrorism, Vincent M. Cannistraro. He envisions "highly educated scientists... (in) small organized clandestine cells working on the development of technologies to diminish or even eliminate the race of man [sic] from the Earth." The article also cites the voluntary human extinction movement, in hopes of adding credence to this fantasy.

There may very well be well-funded, clandestine cells of scientists working to eliminate large numbers of people. However, saving planet Earth is probably not one of their motives.

The Church of Euthanasia advocates what many think of when they hear about VHEMT for the first time: suicide for Earth's sake. Founder Chris Korda, in their newsletter Snuff It, (4) encourages those who are truly serious about saving the planet to kill themselves. Also offered are several creative ways to help the cause of voluntary human extinction.

The Gaia Liberation Front (5) favors people killing each other as in wars, but prefers "hand-to-hand combat, or better yet, biological agents that kill only humans."

No matter how many millions are sacrificed by the Grim Reaper, and for whatever reason, benefits to Gaia would be minimal. In fact, high death rates cause high birth rates, often resulting in a net increase. Post-war baby booms quickly replace the dead of both victor and vanquished.

In Wild Earth, (6) I examine the infamous Bubonic Plague's effect on western civilization's census report: "Immediately after this minor blip, our numbers began to shoot for the moon. The industrial revolution was no doubt a factor in allowing us to burgeon to the bursting point, but the Black Death may be the reason we want to breed like bunnies. Burned into our collective memory was the horror of massive deaths of our kind. Our reaction as a species, naturally, has been fertility with a vengeance."

To cope with this rampant fertility, I conclude, "...reproductive freedom, economic opportunity, and education are far more effective methods of improving the ratio of people-to-wildlife than promoting death could ever be."

No, the Grim Reaper is not Gaia's knight in shining armor - he can't just kill the stork. We are the potential heroes of this rescue. If enough members of the human family become vehement about preserving life on Earth, fair Gaia has a prayer.

References.
(1) Wall Street Journal, Milbank, Dana, May 20, 1994, pg A4.
(2) Weekly World News, August 6, 1991, pg 33.
(3) Newhouse News Service, Tilove, Jonathan, The Grand Rapids Press, April 14, 1991, pg E4.
(4) Snuff It, Korda, Chris, Spring 1994, Church of Euthanasia, POB 261 Somerville MA 02143.
(5) These EXIT Times, No. 2, 1992, pg 12 Gaia Liberation Front.
(6) Wild Earth, Knight, Les U., Winter 1992/93, pgs 76-77. Cenozoic Society, Inc., POB 455, Richmond VT 05477.


Human existence is fragile for quite a few reasons. Here are 20 ways the world could end.

 

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27 posted on 11/17/2005 10:07:59 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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