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New Documents Reveal Saddam Hid WMD, Was Tied to Al Qaida
NewsMax ^ | Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2005 12:15 p.m. EST | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/16/2005 9:26:41 PM PST by TBP

Recently discovered Iraqi documents now being translated by U.S. intelligence analysts indicate that Saddam Hussein's government made extensive plans to hide Iraq's weapons of mass destruction before the U.S. invasion in March 2003 - and had deep ties to al Qaida before the 9/11 attacks.

The explosive evidence was discovered among "millions of pages of documents" unearthed by the Iraq Survey Group weapons search team, reports the Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes.

In the magazine's Nov. 21 issue, Hayes reveals that the document cache now being examined contains "a thick stew of reports and findings from a variety of [Iraqi] intelligence agencies and military units."

Though the Pentagon has so far declined to make the bombshell papers public, Hayes managed to obtain a list of titles on the reports.

Topics headlined in the still embargoed Iraqi documents include: • Chemical Agent Purchase Orders (Dec. 2001)

• Formulas and information about Iraq's Chemical Weapons Agents

• Locations of Weapons/Ammunition Storage (with map)

• Denial and Deception of WMD and Killing of POWs

• Ricin research and improvement

• Chemical Gear for Fedayeen Saddam • Memo from the [Iraqi Intelligence Service] to Hide Information from a U.N. Inspection team (1997)

• Iraq Ministry of Defense Calls for Investigation into why documents related to WMD were found by UN inspection team

• Correspondence between various Iraq organizations giving instructions to hide chemicals and equipment

• Correspondence from [Iraqi Intelligence Service] to [the Military Industrial Commission] regarding information gathered by foreign intelligence satellites on WMD (Dec. 2002) • Cleaning chemical suits and how to hide chemicals

• [Iraqi Intelligence Service] plan of what to do during UNSCOM inspections (1996)

Still other reports suggest that Iraq's ties to al Qaida were far deeper than previously known, featuring headlines like:

• Secret Meeting with Taliban Group Member and Iraqi Government (Nov. 2000)

• Document from Uday Hussein regarding Taliban activity

• Possible al Qaeda Terror Members in Iraq

• Iraqi Effort to Cooperate with Saudi Opposition Groups and Individuals

• Iraqi Intel report on Kurdish Activities: Mention of Kurdish Report on al Qaeda - reference to al Qaeda presence in Salman Pak

• [Iraqi Intelligence Service] report on Taliban-Iraq Connections Claims

• Money Transfers from Iraq to Afghanistan

While the document titles sound stunning enough to turn the Iraq war debate on its head, Hayes cautions that it's hard to know for certain until the full text is available.

It's possible, he writes, "that the 'Document from Uday Hussein regarding Taliban activity' was critical of one or another Taliban policies. But it's equally possible, given Uday's known role as a go-between for the Iraqi regime and al Qaeda, that something more nefarious was afoot."

"What was discussed at the 'Secret Meeting with Taliban Group Member and Iraqi Government' in November 2000? It could be something innocuous. Maybe not. But it would be nice to know more."

Hayes also notes that an additional treasure trove of evidence on Saddam Hussein's support for al Qaida may be lost forever.

"When David Kay ran the Iraq Survey Group searching for weapons of mass destruction, he instructed his team to ignore anything not directly related to the regime's WMD efforts," he reports.

"As a consequence, documents describing the regime's training and financing of terrorists were labeled 'No Intelligence Value' and often discarded, according to two sources."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; iraq; osama; saddam; terrorism; waronterror; wmds
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To: TBP

Things are getting more interesting all the time!

Iraq had WMD and hid them and lied about it?

Whodathunkit?


61 posted on 11/17/2005 4:13:31 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: TBP

Exactly...The Pubbies can't read them they are beyond their paygrade. Of course Sadam had the weapons, and alot of them have been found and yet not a word.


62 posted on 11/17/2005 5:24:25 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: RandyRep

W's "rope-a-dope" has cost many lives! The enemy hears every piece of dissent here at home meant to undermine the Iraqi war effort. This encourages them to fight harder and kill more. The Iraqi WMD info and the Iraqi/Al Qaeda links should have been public long ago so there would have been a united front against the enemy. Political strategery doing war gets our military killed!


63 posted on 11/17/2005 5:53:14 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: TBP

This crisis is easy to fix.

Just take all the material on freeper website, give it to President Bush and let him give it to the MSM.

Anybody think this is a good idea??


64 posted on 11/17/2005 5:54:25 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER (concealed carry)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The question that no one is asking is how did the MSM and the rat politicians of America know before the first phase of the Iraqi war was over, basically no WMDs were in Iraq.

There is only one way the MSM and our rat $inators, who hasn't been correct on anything about Iraq could have known that basically there were no WMDS in Iraq.

They were told by $addam or who ever moved the WMDs out of Iraq that they were no longer in Iraq.


65 posted on 11/17/2005 6:13:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Watch the rats re Iraq in 1998: http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/111505.wmv)
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To: TBP

I think it does not matter how damning or smoking the gun is, The administration won't publicize it, may even downplay it.


66 posted on 11/17/2005 6:18:22 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: TBP
reference to al Qaeda presence in Salman Pak

Well that should ring a big bell around here. I never understood why we learned so little about Salman Pak after the invasion. Did the Government ever explain to us why a 707 was sitting on the ground at Salman Pak. If it wasn't for training terrorists and maybe al Qaeda terrorists then what was it used for?

This is just so much like Bush. Don't make waves. The problem with that strategy is that his opponents in the Socialist/Democrat Party are having a no WMD-no al Qaeda Connection field day with the support of the MSM. Time to fight back. Release a little al Qaeda data from good old Salman Pak.

68 posted on 11/17/2005 7:02:08 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: nutmeg
CHENEY FIGHTS BACK Wed Nov 16 2005 18:56:46 ET Excerpts As Prepared For Delivery Tonight by Vice President Cheney

"What we’re hearing now is some politicians contradicting their own statements and making a play for political advantage in the middle of a war. The saddest part is that our people in uniform have been subjected to these cynical and pernicious falsehoods day in and day out. American soldiers and Marines are out there every day in dangerous conditions and desert temperatures – conducting raids, training Iraqi forces, countering attacks, seizing weapons, and capturing killers – and back home a few opportunists are suggesting they were sent into battle for a lie."

"The President and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing their memory, or their backbone – but we’re not going to sit by and let them rewrite history."

"We’re going to continue throwing their own words back at them. And far more important, we’re going to continue sending a consistent message to the men and women who are fighting the war on terror in Iraq, Afghanistan, and many other fronts."


69 posted on 11/17/2005 7:10:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Watch the rats re Iraq in 1998: http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/111505.wmv)
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To: CheyennePress
I'm not holding my breath on this stuff. Far too many can't misses slithered away into the sand during the Iraq invasion.

When I see an article like this, no matter good source or bad, I want to say "no traction, not news" and move on. If Able Danger can't get any traction, why would this. I want more than the Pres and VP out there jawboning about pre-war intel, I want heads cracked about things like this. p.s. Weldon has a letter demanding that Pentagon release officers to testify. He had 202 sigs last night, he said to write congress people today demanding more.

70 posted on 11/17/2005 7:22:56 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Who says we're going to win the War On Terror?)
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To: MinuteGal
Then I see it's from NewsMax..........

Well, and Hayes has been slapped down by the Department of Defense for coming to false conclusions about the Feith memo.

71 posted on 11/17/2005 7:23:50 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Dunno.
But the trolls and the Dems are frantic to squelch this.

Check up on a troll named "A Russian" who insists that there wasn't any WMD's in Iraq.


72 posted on 11/17/2005 9:05:12 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Read the link at #52....Hayes is after some good stuff!:
Thamks Ernest. Looks like HARMONY may go the route of ABLE DANGER. I bookmark the article.
73 posted on 11/17/2005 11:22:04 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: MinuteGal

"Every time I see a thread with this type of headline, I click on with trembling fingers and bated breath.
Then I see it's from NewsMax.........."


Yeah, it's like when you see a story is from "DebkaFiles."


74 posted on 11/17/2005 4:18:19 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: TBP

Yeah...........well why the hell doesn't the administration have the press secretary out there every morning with a big flow chart and poster board with big pictures showing this? I am just so sick and tired of Bush and his administration being "stuck on stupid." He needs to take a page from old Bill Clinton and go on the attack constantly.


75 posted on 11/17/2005 4:30:00 PM PST by fisherman90814
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To: UCANSEE2

My personal belief from the start. I have few relatives in Navy intel who have similar conclusions based on the convoy activity prior to the invasion.


76 posted on 11/17/2005 4:36:56 PM PST by fisherman90814
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To: MinuteGal

By the way, did you know that Steven Hayes was interviewed by Roger Hedgecock (subbing for Rush) on Thursday ..??

So .. you're apprehension over NewsMax was unfounded.

And .. Steven Hayes article is running in the National Review.


77 posted on 11/18/2005 7:29:13 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: CyberAnt
Thanks, Cyber.....however, my apprehension over NewsMax is never unfounded. Mr. Hayes is doing well to take his information to other venues.

Leni

78 posted on 11/18/2005 8:25:42 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: UCANSEE2
Good points about the Russians. Furthermore, the weaponization method that was used to create the deadly aerosolized anthrax that killed American citizens in the weeks following 9/11 was invented by a Russian named Ken Alibekov.

The Russians probably covertly taught the Iraqis the method for a hefty price (the Alibekov method was famously described by former UN inspector Dr. Richard Spertzel as "the keys to the kingdom"). Many dark actors playing games, indeed.

79 posted on 11/18/2005 8:39:20 AM PST by jpl
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To: MinuteGal

Well .. for the record .. I don't always trust NewMax myself - but I do trust Steve Hayes - because I have read his book "The Connection".


80 posted on 11/18/2005 10:30:22 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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