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Nigergate: the dangerous relations between Democrat Senators and ex spies
november 15, 2005

Posted on 11/15/2005 10:52:47 AM PST by parnasokan

Nigergate: the dangerous relations between Democrat Senators and ex spies

Here follows an interesting article from the Italian newspaper Il Giornale. I make no comment at all other than ‘read it’. Very soon, under the title “The Rockefeller Connection”, I will post something revealing, something important that until now passed completely under the Radar Screen. Stay tuned ..

Nigergate: the dangerous relations between Democrat Senators and ex spies

Il GIORNALE 13 November 2005 By Gian Marco Chiocci and Mario Sechi

October 9 2002, Rome. Elisabetta Burba, journalist with Panorama magazine, crosses Via Veneto. At the American Embassy someone is waiting for her. The very same day in London The Guardian publishes an article in which Vincent Cannistraro, an ex CIA officer, refers to “manipulated information” which, he alleges, is on its way to the highest echelons of the American Government. Cannistraro points a finger towards the “hawks in the Pentagon” as being behind the disinformation.

While Cannistraro is busy speaking to the Guardian Rocco Martino’s false documents have as yet to reach the American Embassy, the State Department, the CIA, the Defence Intelligence Agency, the IAEA and the Italian SISMI. At the time of Cannistraro’s interview only the French DGSE have the false documents. How did Cannistraro know what was about to happen? Cannistraro is not the only ex CIA officer who foretells the events, in fact Nigergate is a plot in which bloggers, spies and Liberal journalists are all playing the very same game. Cannistraro’s foretelling the future is but the first of a series of the many, too many, coincidences in the Nigergate affair.

In Washington, as in the European capitals, mid October sees the discussions regarding military intervention in Iraq reach their peak. Nobody seems to doubt that Saddam Hussein is a menace, not even the France which is against the war, already in possession of the false documents and already in contact with the freelance spy Rocco Martino who will eventualy assume the role of “postman”. The French President, Jacques Chirac, in an interview with the Lebanese newspaper, L’Oriente le jour, published on October 16 2002, declared that “today a certain ammount of evidence leads to believe that in these last four years, that is in the period in which the weapons inspectors were absent, the country continued its re-arming program”. Meanwhile, in the United States, the Democrats side with Bush in favour of armed intervention. On October 10 2002 Hilary Clinton made her comments in regards to Saddam’s chemical and biological weapons. The same for John F. Kerry: “I will vote in favour of authorising the President to use force if necessary in that I believe that arsenals of weapons of mass destruction represent a real and grave threat to our security”. Amongst others voting “yes” was Senator John D. Rockefeller, Vice Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, who today promotes the Italian connection in the false documents obviously forgetting his own words at the time: “there is proof that Saddam is working aggressively to develop nuclear arms which will probably be ready in five years”. Words that Rockefeller seems to have forgotten today at a time when he is asking the FBI to re-open the inquiry into the Italian front. Alongside him stands Congressman Henry Waxman, another who voted “yes” to the use of force. Yesterday Waxman returned once again to attacking the FBI for not having interrogated Rocco Martino during one of his two trips to America, the first to be interviewed by CBS (in vain because the interview was never aired). The polemic because the Director of the FBI, Robert S. Mueller III, signed a letter which closed once and for all the Italian front: the letter states that there was no plot to influence American foreign policy. The letter completely overturns the conspiracy theory advanced by the american bloggers and copied by La Repubblica which punctually interviews the Democrat Senators who were all for war yesterday but today are so full of regret that they want to place the very FBI under the spotlight, the same FBI that they applaude for having investigated Lewis Scooter Libby for his involvement in CIA-Gate. It’s true, the FBI could have interrogated Rocco Martino, had they been able to find him. Reliable information from the States points to Martino’s having been assisted by CBS before leaving Italy and having then been helped to hide. True? False? We will know during the next few days. There are no mysteries surrounding Martino’s “non interrogation”. In Italy SISMI made all of it’s information available to the Americans, adding in a letter to Mueller the hope that “our collaboration will continue along the same lines well into the future”.

The declerations made by Waxman to La Repubblica would appear somewhat singular. But just who is Waxman? The Congressman is linked to the millionaire Lyndon La Rouche, another exponent of the Democrats who, in Italy, are active through Movisol (International Movement for Civil Rights - Solidarity) and in the United States through the Executive Intelligence Review, which, on June 13 2003, circulated the following piece of disinformation: “according to EIR intelligence sources the Niger documents were produced inside the Niger Embassy in Rome and were passed to the Italian Carabinieri (Military Police) who then, without commenting at all, passed the documents to the British MI6 and the CIA”. Basing himself on this disinformation Waxman wrote a letter to Bush demanding an explanation, none ever arrived due to the simple fact that the EIR scoop was totally baseless. No trace of the Carabinieri, no trace of British or Americans. Nothing at all. All that remains is a network of spies, anti-Bush giornalists and Democrat Senators who all seem to forget two or three things: Rocco Martino was a spy employed by the French; Niger is an ex Frech colony; the French control the extraction of uranium in Niger; the French had the dossier containing the false documents in the autumn of 2000; in regards to the forgeries France remained silent, never telling the Americns a word about the forgeries, until after the IAEA disclosed all.

Question: why don’t all of the highly allert Democrat Senators, beginning with Rockefeller, ask the FBI to investigate Paris?


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To: parnasokan; ravingnutter
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21 posted on 11/15/2005 1:48:04 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: ravingnutter

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22 posted on 11/15/2005 1:50:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: dangus

Very funny....by the way, when I was growing up, we were taught to say "NIGER" for the country where the 'g' kinda sounds like a 'j'.....Now alluvasudden, the CNN, MSNBC, CBS pukes are saying "nijeeeeeerrrrrr." Makes you wonder if some bright 'bulb' at CNN thought, "Hey! If we prounounce it like we used to, some dumb CNN blond (brunette, whatever) is gonna screw up and say the "N-word" by mistake sometime....


23 posted on 11/15/2005 1:56:09 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: ravingnutter

I agree with you that there is something strange about Cannistraro's role in this matter. How did he know so much about this false information?


24 posted on 11/15/2005 2:00:08 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: parnasokan
Something else about foreknowledge that I remembered, from a Ledeen article (who they are trying to blame):

JJA: Look at page 76 of the Silberman-Robb Report. CIA had received three reports from "a liaison intelligence service" in late '01 and early 2002. "One of these reports explained that...during meetings on July 5-6, 2000, Niger and Iraq had signed an agreement for the sale of 500 tons of uranium." And the "liaison service" provided a "verbatim text" of the agreement. Got that? Not the document, but a text. They were keeping the documents to themselves, and they wouldn't tell us the source, because, they said, they were afraid of leaks.

ML: Right, that text is supposed to be the text of one of the forged documents.

JJA: Silberman-Robb doesn't say that, actually, although that's probably true. Everyone has assumed that the "liaison service" was Italian, but since the Italians did not have those documents in early 2002-nobody except the French and Rocco, the French agent, had them at that time-it wasn't them.

ML: So they weren't the "liaison service." It was...the FRENCH???

JJA: Voila! Or should I say, Ecco!?

National Review

25 posted on 11/15/2005 2:00:21 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: parnasokan

bttt


26 posted on 11/15/2005 2:10:09 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: dangus
LOL!
27 posted on 11/15/2005 2:15:54 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: ravingnutter

If the French had sent this information to the CIA in late 2001-early 2002, then a possible source for Cannistraro could have been former associates in the CIA.


28 posted on 11/15/2005 2:21:24 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: parnasokan

Bump

Pinz


29 posted on 11/15/2005 2:24:20 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: ravingnutter

Thanks for your attempts to keep these dots from floating off the page.

Pinz


30 posted on 11/15/2005 2:25:13 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Peach; Enchante

Ping

Pinz


31 posted on 11/15/2005 2:25:50 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: ravingnutter

Thanks!


32 posted on 11/15/2005 2:43:16 PM PST by Fedora
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To: popdonnelly
If the CIA was so afraid of leaks that they wouldn't provide the documents to the Intelligence Committee, why would they leak it to an ex-CIA agent? How did Castelli pass on the the the exact text of the forgeries if he never saw the documents, as he claims? Oops...I guess we ought to make that four people now that are clairvoyant.
33 posted on 11/15/2005 2:44:14 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Well, there are all kinds of possibilities where Cannistraro could have gotten it from. It couldn't have been a public source, not at that early date. I was speculating that, since he was ex-CIA, someone he had known at the CIA could have fed him the information. An active CIA person couldn't go public with that kind of information, but Cannistraro wouldn't be hampered in that way. So if someone in the CIA wanted to get it out, feed it to Cannistraro.



34 posted on 11/15/2005 4:48:57 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: parnasokan
All that remains is a network of spies, anti-Bush journalists and Democrat Senators who all seem to forget two or three things: Rocco Martino was a spy employed by the French; Niger is an ex French colony; the French control the extraction of uranium in Niger; the French had the dossier containing the false documents in the autumn of 2000; in regards to the forgeries France remained silent, never telling the Americns a word about the forgeries, until after the IAEA disclosed all. Question: why don’t all of the highly alert Democrat Senators, beginning with Rockefeller, ask the FBI to investigate Paris?
35 posted on 11/15/2005 4:57:36 PM PST by Enchante (Joe Wilson: "I don't know anything about uranium, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night!")
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To: ravingnutter

"How did Castelli pass on the the the exact text of the forgeries"

When did Castelli pass on the text? The CIA had supposedly been given the text - the text, not the documents themselves - sometime in late 2001-early 2002.


36 posted on 11/15/2005 4:58:40 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Enchante

Not to mention that the guy at the IAEA who spotted the docs as forgeries was French. Last name of Baute, I think.


37 posted on 11/15/2005 6:44:02 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: parnasokan

"Very soon, under the title “The Rockefeller Connection”, I will post something revealing, something important that until now passed completely under the Radar Screen. Stay tuned .."

Please ping me, also, when you post.


38 posted on 11/15/2005 6:52:50 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: parnasokan; ravingnutter
Vincent Cannistraro, the ABC flak who was described as "the head of the CIA's counter-terrorism centre" during the 1988 Lockerbie investigation and as a " CIA intelligence advisor to the National Security Council" during the Ok[lahoma] City bombing investigation, is always and everywhere quoted by the liberal media, and what he has to say is revealing: "The leak was to punish Wilson, to disparage him with the suggestion of nepotism," he said. In other words, he suggested, the leaker was arguing that Wilson's report should not be taken seriously because he only got the job through his wife's intercession. (Wilson says his wife was not the person responsible for sending him to Africa.) --- LA Times, 10/1/03 Washington Abuzz Over a New Kind of Scandal [Yep, Plame Worked With Foley!]

To: okie01 Hmmm...more likely Vincent Cannistraro, who tried to finger Ledeen for the forgeries. Source [http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2005/04/free_michael.php]
Interestingly enough, I have found so far that Cannistraro does alot of interviews in LA, where Doug said Wilkinson's phone numbers were based from. Whether he lives in LA, I have not been able to determine. If I remember correctly, Cannistraro is in cahoots with Larry Johnson in the VIPS. Something else I found that was interesting about Cannistraro:
He organized an interview with Osama bin Laden for ABC News in 1998.
Source [http://www.pewfellowships.org/seminars/2002/fall/vincent_cannistraro.htm] 147 posted on 07/27/2005 11:12:59 AM PDT by ravingnutter

Regarding the part in bold- I remember Ollie North a while back making a comment - I think it was in his newsletter- about how people in the press who had been involved with interviews of bin Laden in the past were not cooperating with US investigators hunting for bin Laden. North was disgusted by this.

39 posted on 11/15/2005 7:09:32 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: popdonnelly
The documents were just what Administration hawks had been waiting for. The second former official, Vincent Cannistraro, who served as chief of counter-terrorism operations and analysis, told me that copies of the Burba documents were given to the American Embassy, which passed them on to the C.I.A.’s chief of station in Rome, who forwarded them to Washington. Months later, he said, he telephoned a contact at C.I.A. headquarters and was told that “the jury was still out on this”—that is, on the authenticity of the documents.
-------"The Stovepipe: How conflicts between the Bush Administration and the intelligence community marred the reporting on Iraq’s weapons.",Seymour Hersh, The New Yorker, 10/27/2003
40 posted on 11/15/2005 7:16:18 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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