The Intrinsic Evil of Evolutionary Humanism

Sierra Times ^ | 11/15/2005 | Linda Kimball

[Junior]

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CrevoSci threads for the past week:

OpenTag Date ATag Title BTag Notes CloseTag
1. 2005-11-15 Stanford Scientists' Discovery of Hormone Offers Hope For Obesity Drug
2. 2005-11-15 The Intrinsic Evil of Evolutionary Humanism
3. 2005-11-14 A column about Kansas Science Standards
4. 2005-11-14 Darwin And The Origin Of ….The Racist?
5. 2005-11-14 For Republicans, a debate over the party's design
6. 2005-11-14 THE CATHOLIC CHURCH EMBRACES EVOLUTION!!!!
7. 2005-11-13 Intelligent Design Grounded in Science
8. 2005-11-13 Intelligent Design, Part 1
9. 2005-11-13 Pope states the universe is a product of an 'intelligent project'
10. 2005-11-13 Santorum: Don't put intelligent design in classroom
11. 2005-11-13 Vietnam study shows bird flu virus mutating - media
12. 2005-11-12 [Kansas Gov. Kathleen] Sebelius criticizes State Board of Education's move [new science standards]
13. 2005-11-12 ID [Intelligent Design] Opens Astronomer’s Mind to Universe’s Surprises
14. 2005-11-11 A revolution for evolution - Intelligent design must not replace hard science in classrooms.
15. 2005-11-11 Dover results disputed: School board candidate says machine was faulty
16. 2005-11-11 FR Debate: Intelligent Design vs. Birth Defects, Can They Be Reconciled?
17. 2005-11-11 Potential Origins of Europeans Found
18. 2005-11-11 The Real Evil of Evolutionary Humanism
19. 2005-11-10 Culture War Briefing, weekday news guide
20. 2005-11-10 Fossils of fierce-looking dinosaur found in Argentina (Godzilla)
21. 2005-11-10 Is Intelligent Design a Bad Scientific Theory or a Non-Scientific Theory?
22. 2005-11-10 Kansas educators clear way for evolution criticism
23. 2005-11-10 Pat Robertson has a message for Dover, PA: Don't ask God to help.
24. 2005-11-10 Pat Robertson Warns Pa. Town of Disaster
25. 2005-11-10 US states divide over creationism [the view from the UK]
26. 2005-11-10 Why the conspiracy theorizing about theories? (Freeper op-ed)
27. 2005-11-09 Anti-Evolution School Board Ousted
28. 2005-11-09 Dover CARES sweeps election (Intelligent Design loses big)
29. 2005-11-09 Evolution Suffers Kansas Setback
30. 2005-11-09 Gigantic Apes Coexisted With Early Humans, Study Finds
31. 2005-11-09 'Intelligent Design' Wins In Kansas
32. 2005-11-09 Patent issued for anti-gravity device
33. 2005-11-09 Science to ride gravitational waves
34. 2005-11-09 Shifting Icebergs May Have Forced Penguin Evolution
35. 2005-11-09 Shifting Icebergs May Have Forced Penguin Evolution

CrevoSci Thread Count, 2005 YTD:  1099

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CrevoSci Warrior Freepdays for the month of November:
 

2000-11-29 An.American.Expatriate 2000-11-10 AncientAirs 2000-11-21 AndrewC 1998-11-18 angelo 2000-11-10 beavus 1999-11-22 Blood of Tyrants 2003-11-26 blowfish 2004-11-08 CarolinaGuitarman 1997-11-28 cd jones 2001-11-30 claptrap 2001-11-16 CobaltBlue 2005-11-10 culturewars 2002-11-21 DannyTN 2004-11-16 DaveLoneRanger 1997-11-30 Ditto 2001-11-16 dmz 2000-11-11 Ernest_at_the_Beach 2000-11-02 Exigence

2000-11-02 Exit 109 2004-11-05 FeeinTennessee 2000-11-22 FFIGHTER 2000-11-12 ForGod'sSake 2001-11-07 FourtySeven 2000-11-15 freespirited 2000-11-10 Godel 2004-11-06 GreenOgre 2004-11-03 Grey Rabbit 2000-11-04 harbinger of doom 2000-11-28 HiTech RedNeck 1999-11-05 Ichneumon 1998-11-13 jennyp 2005-11-10 jodiluvshoes 1998-11-25 Junior_G 2002-11-17 Just mythoughts 2004-11-11 kaotic133

2005-11-14 knowseverything 2003-11-18 little jeremiah 1998-11-18 malakhi 2000-11-19 Mike Fieschko 2004-11-24 mista science 2003-11-09 MplsSteve 2000-11-06 mrjeff 1999-11-05 muleskinner 2003-11-17 Nathan Zachary 2002-11-12 NCLaw441 1999-11-25 Nebullis 2000-11-13 NYer 2000-11-24 old-ager 2004-11-03 PajamaHadin 2000-11-10 Patriotic Teen 1998-11-01 Pharmboy 2000-11-11 P-Marlowe

2000-11-16 presidio9 1999-11-08 Pyro7480 2002-11-14 Remedy 2000-11-30 Right Wing Professor 2004-11-18 rightwinggoth 1998-11-15 rob777 1998-11-04 RobRoy 2004-11-01 SeasideSparrow 2004-11-05 shadowfighter 1999-11-16 TerP26 2004-11-13 This Just In 2000-11-04 TigerTale 2004-11-11 untrained skeptic 2004-11-21 VictoryGal 2001-11-25 Vote 4 Nixon 2000-11-05 will of the people 2003-11-29 woodb01

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In Memoriam
Fallen CrevoSci Warriors:

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1LongTimeLurker ALS angelo Area Freeper Aric2000 Askel5 Asphalt biblewonk bluepistolero churchillbuff claptrap codebreaker Con X-Poser ConservababeJen DittoJed2 dob

Ed Current f.Christian followerofchrist general_re goodseedhomeschool gopwinsin04 gore3000 IllumiNOTi JediGirl JesseShurun JethroHathaway jlogajan Justice Avenger Kevin Curry kharaku knowquest

Land of the Irish Le-Roy malakhi Marathon medved metacognative mikeharris65 missyme Modernman n4sir NoKinToMonkeys Ogmios peg the prophet Phaedrus Phoroneus pickemuphere

ReasonedThought ret_medic RickyJ SeaLion Selkie Shubi SplashDog The Loan Arranger Tomax tpaine Truth666 twittle Unalienable WaveThatFlag xm177e2

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Bring back Modernman and SeaLion!

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Lost CrevoSci Battlefields (Pulled Threads)

• 2004-04-27 Stop Teaching Our Kids this Evolution Claptrap!
• 2003-10-29 The Mystery of the Missing Links (Intelligent Design vs. Evolution)
• 2003-10-27 Physics Nobelist Takes Stand on Evolution
• 2003-10-23 Gene Found for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
• 2003-10-21 Artificial Proteins Assembled from Scratch
• 2003-09-23 Solar System Formation Questions
• 2003-07-18 Unlikely Group May Revive Darwin Debate [Evolution v. Creationism]
• 2003-07-02 "Unlocking the Mystery of ""Unlocking the Mystery of Life"""
• 2003-06-26 Darwin Faces a New Rival
• 2003-06-06 Amazing Creatures
• 2002-09-13 Oldest Known Penis Is 100 Million Years Old
• 2002-04-10 (Creationists) CRSC Correction
• 2001-08-28 The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [6th Revision]
• 2001-08-26 A Scientific Account of the Origin of Life on Earth [Thread I]
• 2001-01-13 A Christian Understanding of Intelligent Design
• 2000-10-10 Another Lost Generation?
• 2000-08-30 Evil-Ution
• 1999-11-14 Creationism's Success Past 5 Years: (Gallup: 1 in 10 hold secular evolutionist perspective)

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Longest CrevoSci Thread Ever

• 2002-12-11 Evolution Disclaimer Supported (6,879 replies)

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Glossary of Terms

Assumption: Premise: a statement that is assumed to be true and from which a conclusion can be drawn; "on the assumption that he has been injured we can infer that he will not to play"
Belief: Any cognitive content (perception) held as true; religious faith
Crevo:  Creation vs. evolution
CrevoSci:  Creation vs. evolution/Science
CrevoSci Warriors:  Those who take part on CrevoSci threads
Data: factual information, especially information organized for analysis or used to reason or make decisions
Dogma: a religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof
Fact: When an observation is confirmed repeatedly and by many independent and competent observers, it can become a fact
Freepday:  The day a Freeper joined Free Republic
Hypothesis: A tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices"
Impression: A vague idea in which some confidence is placed; "his impression of her was favorable"; "what are your feelings about the crisis?"; "it strengthened my belief in his sincerity"; "I had a feeling that she was lying"
Law: A generalization that describes recurring facts or events in nature; "the laws of thermodynamics"
Observation: Any information collected with the senses
Theory: A well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory"

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The
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[old-ager]

> I am an elctrical engineer and used to beleive that evoultion was the process God used to create (make) man. I don't beleive that anymore, life is simply too complex to be explained by chance.

Gridley: you are on the right track. If God is God, He can do anything, including making something out of nothing. Jesus believed the Old Testament literally.

[old-ager]

> "Oldest Known Penis Is 100 Million Years Old"

pulled

[Blood of Tyrants]

Really high-minded people are indifferent to suffering, especially that of others.

But you can guarantee that the "really high-minded people" will do all they can to make sure that the suffering is not by them.

[Blood of Tyrants]

And as Christianity wrested itself away from those who would use it for evil purposes, those people founded the new religions of secular humanism, enviromentalism, homosexual worship, liberalism, and communism.

[ikka]

Look, if this is another attack on the separation of church and state which is Constitutional

Surprised no one called you on this... please show me exactly where in the US Constitution the phrase "separation of church and state" appears.

[aft_lizard]

I dont think a 100 million year old penis would like being pulled. LOL

[fr_freak]

We, as a very Christian nation, indiscriminately slaughtered Indians -- men, women and children as Hitler did to the Jews (although our technology and organization weren't as good).

Indiscriminately? As Hitler did to the Jews? Please tell me you don't actually believe that ridiculous BS.

[dsc]

"Nonpersons or potential persons cannot be wronged…because death does not deprive them of something they value." (John Harris, Sir David Alliance professor of bioethics, University of Manchester, England)”

So, Professor Johnny, if an infant’s parents died and left him a billion dollars, it would be okay to steal that billion dollars because the infant is not able to value it?

A preborn human may not be able yet to value his life, but it is something of value that he has, and your pathetic attempt to justify taking it from him is as puerile as it is malevolent.

“There are 1 million cases of HIV, 31-50 million of herpes simplex, 24 million of HPV, and 1 million cases of chronic hepatitis B.”

Yo, what about chronic hepatitis C? There may be 4 million cases just among American military vets.

“And unless we can arrest it, as Churchill declared, it will "shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible."

Winnie never ceases to amaze.

[Tribune7]

We, as a very Christian nation, indiscriminately slaughtered Indians -- men, women and children as Hitler did to the Jews

Hitler built schools and hospitals for the Jews?

Further there were no plans for Indian genocide -- despite claims by American haters and the fools from public schools who believe them.

[dsc]

Dogma: a religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof
Fact: When an observation is confirmed repeatedly and by many independent and competent observers, it can become a fact

By that standard, the dogma of the Catholic Church are facts.

[LauraleeBraswell]

Yes it does. Read the article again!

[Antonello]

By that standard, the dogma of the Catholic Church are facts.

The dogma of the Catholic Church are facts - False
That Catholicism is a dogma is an observed fact - True

[Junior]

Nope. The said observers are all Catholic and not "independent."

[Antonello]

And as Christianity wrested itself away from those who would use it for evil purposes, those people founded the new religions of secular humanism, enviromentalism, homosexual worship, liberalism, and communism.

So all secular humanism, environmentalism, homosexual worship, liberalism, and communism have to do is 'wrest themselves away from those who would use them for evil purposes' and you would accept them as benign?

[FerdieMurphy]

Amen.

[Antonello]

All the folks who think
a group of politicians
(no matter how bad!)

can undo God's work
just reveal how little faith
those folks have in God.

Which one is God's work - malaria or DDT?

[Blood of Tyrants]

You forget what the qualities are that define those 'isms'.

[Antonello]

You forget what the qualities are that define those 'isms'.

For the purposes of my point, which is as a tool for 'bad people', your appointed quality of 'religion' suffices.

[Theophilus]

Fact: When an observation is confirmed repeatedly and by many independent and competent observers, it can become a fact

Most people believe that the Sun is spherical although the Sun has only rarely, if ever, been observed from more than one perspective. I think a great deal of intuition and belief go into what is commonly accepted as "fact". Ultimately, I think that objective truth (facts) are independent of independent and compentent (of what?) observation. We are all, every one, much more believers than we are observers. And yet, the truth is out there in all it's fullness and glory.