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Colin Powell's Tape Shows Iraqis 'Evacuating' WMDs [HELLO LIBERAL MSM]
News Max ^ | Nov. 14, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/15/2005 5:55:30 AM PST by conservativecorner

Bush officials have done such a poor job defending themselves against charges they lied about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction that even their supporters seem to have forgotten about some of the most compelling WMD evidence.

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell, for instance, keeps apologizing for his speech to the United Nations on the eve of the Iraq war. But at least one chilling bit of evidence he introduced there has never been refuted.

Here's how Powell introduced his case on Feb. 5, 2003:

POWELL: Let me begin by playing a tape for you. What you're about to hear is a conversation that my government monitored. It takes place on November 26 [2002], on the day before United Nations teams resumed inspections in Iraq.

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The conversation involves two senior officers, a colonel and a brigadier general, from Iraq's elite military unit, the Republican Guard. TAPE TRANSCRIPT:

IRAQI COLONEL : About this committee that is coming with [U.N. nuclear weapons inspector] Mohamed ElBaradei.

IRAQI GENERAL : Yeah, yeah.

COL: We have this modified vehicle. What do we say if one of them sees it?

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GEN: You didn't get a modified... You don't have a modified... COL: By God, I have one.

GEN: Which? From the workshop...?

COL: From the al-Kindi Company

GEN: Yeah, yeah. I'll come to you in the morning. I have some comments. I'm worried you all have something left.

COL: We evacuated everything. We don't have anything left. [END OF POWELL TAPE EXCERPT]

What type of "modified vehicle" do Iraq war critics think Saddam's general was worried about? A souped-up 1967 Mustang?

And what, pray tell, do they think Saddam's colonel was referring to when he said, "We evacuated everything. We don't have anything left"?


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To: George W. Bush
Document Reveals 1987 Bomb Test by Iraq

By WILLIAM J. BROAD

The New York Times

April 29, 2001, p. A8

here:

21 posted on 11/15/2005 6:22:54 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: jwalsh07

-They were talking about the dreaded SUV, the lefts' most dreaded WMD.-

LOL!!


22 posted on 11/15/2005 6:23:16 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: conservativecorner

I was listening to the Bachelor radio show last night and he had Steve Hays on. Hays did an article for some recent publication (I forgot the name - wasn't totally awake). Anyway, Hays said there are a bunch of documents confiscated by the US military that are in a heavily guarded warehouse in Iraq. In their discussion last night, they sent out a warning to Harry Reid to be careful where he treads because there is supposed to be evidence of WMD or intent to develop them. Also a purchase order for chemical suits and evidence of communication between Uday and the Taliban.


23 posted on 11/15/2005 6:24:19 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: conservativecorner

What type of "modified vehicle" do Iraq war critics think Saddam's general was worried about? A souped-up 1967 Mustang?

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Post photos, please...mine's in media blasting


24 posted on 11/15/2005 6:25:06 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I know my enemy. I have Cable TV.)
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To: jwalsh07

"They were talking about the dreaded SUV, the lefts' most dreaded WMD."

It was Teddy Kennedys ScotchMobile.


25 posted on 11/15/2005 6:27:04 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: George W. Bush
Why do right-wing news sources continue to claim WMD when the Bush administration has disavowed such claims? How exactly do website operators get so much intel?

Well they're invisible see....only visible to World Nut Daily and a select few true believers...

I think it's also important to note that even the most ardent talking heads like Hannity and Limbaugh have dropped the pretense, let alone the administration

26 posted on 11/15/2005 6:28:12 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: George W. Bush
"Why do right-wing news sources continue to claim WMD when the Bush administration has disavowed such claims?"

The Bush administration has stated they didn't find WMD's.
I still believe they were moved out.

27 posted on 11/15/2005 6:28:20 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: George W. Bush

First you should understand that News Max is covering an article that appeared in the NY Times. They aren't making it up out of thin air. Since you won't believe a "right wing site", will you at least believe the NY Times?

N.Y. Times: Iraq Had WMD 'Stockpiles' in 2003 [Well What Do You Know Alert]
News Max ^ | March 13, 2005 | Carl Limbacher


In a stunning about-face, the New York Times reported Sunday that when the U.S. attacked Iraq in March 2003, Saddam Hussein possessed "stockpiles of monitored chemicals and materials," as well as sophisticated equipment to manufacture nuclear and biological weapons, which was removed to "a neighboring state" before the U.S. could secure the weapons sites.

The U.N.'s Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission [UNMOVIC] "has filed regular reports to the Security Council since last May," the paper said, "about the dismantlement of important weapons installations and the export of dangerous materials to foreign states."

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"Officials of the commission and the [International] Atomic Energy Agency have repeatedly called on the Iraqi government to report on what it knows of the fate of the thousands of pieces of monitored equipment and stockpiles of monitored chemicals and materials." Last fall, IAEA director Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei confirmed that "nuclear-related materials" had gone missing from monitored sites, calling on Iraqi officials to start the process of accounting for the missing stockpiles still ostensibly under the agency's supervision.

Quoting Sami al-Araji, Iraq's deputy minister of industry since the 1980s, the Times said:

"It appeared that a highly organized operation had pinpointed specific plants in search of valuable equipment, some of which could be used for both military and civilian applications, and carted the machinery away."

Calling the operation "sophisticated," Dr. Araji said the removal effort featured "cranes and the lorries, and they depleted the whole sites," adding, "They knew what they were doing."

The top Iraqi defense official said equipment capable of making parts for missiles as well as chemical, biological and nuclear arms was missing from 8 or 10 sites that were the heart of Iraq's WMD program.

Dr. Araji said that if the equipment had left the country, its most likely destination was a neighboring state.

The United Nations, worried that the nuclear material and equipment could be used in clandestine bomb production, has been hunting for it throughout the Middle East, largely unsuccessfully, the Times said.


28 posted on 11/15/2005 6:29:31 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner
Saddam's version of "evacuating" things :-)
29 posted on 11/15/2005 6:31:22 AM PST by AZRepublican
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To: conservativecorner

Saddam's Nukes?

Does Carl Levin know something the rest of us don't?
by Stephen F. Hayes

11/08/2005 7:25:00 PM



Levin, the second ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, is leading the charge against the White House for manipulating intelligence on Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction and connections to al Qaeda. He has been dogged and ruthless, focusing his criticism on two areas of the Bush administration's case for war in Iraq: the connection between Iraq and al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons program. Levin claims that the Bush administration manipulated intelligence in both areas to frighten the American public into supporting a war of choice.

Which is why Levin's latest claim is so startling. On Monday, Levin appeared on Hardball with Chris Matthews on MSNBC and made the following declaration:

"There was plenty of evidence that Saddam had nuclear weapons, by the way. That is not in dispute. There is plenty of evidence of that."

Really? I'd like to see it. (The transcript is here and the video can be viewed on the Hardball main page, here.

Levin also criticized the Bush administration for deciding to remove Saddam Hussein shortly after 9/11. It is a curious charge. On December 16, 2001, in an appearance on CNN, Levin himself called for regime change in Iraq. Levin would not say whether he supported making Hussein's Iraq the "next target" after Afghanistan, but he did say this:

"The war against terrorism will not be finished as long as he [Saddam Hussein] is in power."

Here then, is the relevant portion

of Monday night's exchange:


MATTHEWS: Senator Levin, from what I can figure, our audience on HARDBALL is a pretty mixed bag of conservatives, liberals and middle-of- the-roaders. That shifts of course. But, there are a lot of people out there who have different views than you, or me, or anybody else on this war.

I just wondered, analytically, how would you best describe the manner in which the vice president and his people and others in the administration looked at this intel? That you've just described. What was it, selective use? Was it a skewed use of it? Was it a worst-case scenario? Was it deliberate lying?

LEVIN: I think they ignored the intelligence that did not support their decision to go to war, basically. They were looking for those snippets of intelligence that would support their decision to go to war. That is basically what their signal was.

I believe the intelligence community. The intelligence community then provided some distorted intelligence on a lot of things. But, that's not what the issue is that I raise this weekend.

This is where the intelligence community was right and they ignored the intelligence community. Not where the intelligence community was wrong, which was plenty of times.

There are instance after instance after instance where the intelligence community was right or divided, where the administration, for reasons to, obvious to create an impression that they wanted the American people to believe, where they did not use what the intelligence community had found or decided.

MATTHEWS: What came first do you believe, Senator? Their desire to go to war or the way they looked at the evidence?

LEVIN: I think basically they decided immediately after 9/11 to go after Saddam. They began to--look there was plenty of evidence that Saddam had nuclear weapons, by the way. That is not in dispute. There is plenty of evidence of that.



Stephen F. Hayes is a senior writer at The Weekly Standard.


30 posted on 11/15/2005 6:37:52 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: George W. Bush; conservativecorner

I'm waiting for the DEBKA confirmation.


31 posted on 11/15/2005 6:39:49 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: AZRepublican

It was a hoax, trying to show that Mo' and his sheetheads invented the jet airplane...


32 posted on 11/15/2005 6:48:43 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: George W. Bush
Why do right-wing news sources continue to claim WMD when the Bush administration has disavowed such claims?

Where did you get that? The Bush Administration has not disavowed these claims, they just don't rush to publicize the information (as they should).
33 posted on 11/15/2005 6:58:24 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: George W. Bush

"WMD proof"?I know that artillery shells were found with chemical warheads.That certainly qualifies as a "thimble" full.


34 posted on 11/15/2005 7:00:07 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: sam_paine

"I'm waiting for the DEBKA confirmation."

Is DEBKA less reliable than, say, the New York Times?



35 posted on 11/15/2005 7:18:14 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Steely Tom
Rove is going for all the marbles. At some future date, massive, irrefutable proof will be presented in spectacular fashion.

I'd like to see that proof. Now would be fine, not later.

If it is suddenly 'discovered' to be in Syria, necessitating another invasion to protect us from model airplanes that will spray us all with Saddam's naughty liquids, I think a lot of people will find it suspicious.

Don't you think your scenario might be flimsy? We can't keep the secret prisons a secret. Why are we doing so much better at keeping WMD secret for much longer?
37 posted on 11/15/2005 7:52:04 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Ramius
But even given the stuff we've found, the most important part is the facilities and the programs and Saddam's willness to pursue them and inevitably distribute them to terrorists.

But he did have chemical weapons if we believe the reports about him using them against Iran and his own population. So why didn't he give those to the terrorists?

Saddam had a lot to fear from WMD in terrorist hands. His own regime was too secular for the tastes of the jihadis and the internal strife between Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds made it a great target for terror attacks.
38 posted on 11/15/2005 7:57:18 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
How about 500 tons of uranium?
39 posted on 11/15/2005 7:59:21 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Steely Tom
"The goal is to crush the credibility of the MSM, destroy it beyond repair, and ..."

I sure hope your right. I am beyond frustration, at them laying down and playing dead.
40 posted on 11/15/2005 8:04:46 AM PST by angelsonmyside
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