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And how is that, Secretary Rice?
www.jnewswire.com ^ | Tuesday, November 15, 2005 01:27 IST | Ryan Jones

Posted on 11/14/2005 2:33:23 PM PST by Esther Ruth

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 01:27 IST JNW EDITORIAL

And how is that, Secretary Rice? By Ryan Jones

November 14th, 2005

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice Sunday told reporters while en route to Israel that the birth of a Palestinian Arab state on the biblical lands of Judea, Samaria and Gaza will bring increased security to the Jewish state.

I, for one, would be interested in hearing on what evidence exactly the secretary bases that assessment.

It is important to note that a “Palestinian” state will be ruled by the PLO (now more frequently referred to as the Palestinian Authority), which was for decades the “Al Qaeda” of Islamic terrorism.

Israel agreed, under tremendous American pressure, to enter into negotiations with and recognize Yasser Arafat's organization as the legitimate representative of all Arabs living in Judea, Samaria and Gaza (Yesha) on the shaky assumption the PLO would deal decisively with all other terror groups vying for position.

To this end, Israel allowed the PLO to import thousands of arms.

But since that day, the number of terrorist organizations operating out of those territories has only increased. And those groups are today far better armed than they would ever have hoped to be prior to 1993.

One by one, Israel surrendered control over every major Arab population center in Yesha believing (or at least acting as if they believed), just as Rice claimed Sunday, that doing so would provide nearby Israeli towns with greater security since, naturally, the local Arabs' anger would be assuaged by the gesture.

Is Greater Tel Aviv today safer now that nearby Kalkilya is under PLO control? Has Netanya been offered respite as a result of handing over Tulkarm? Do the citizens of Haifa and the lower Galilee breath easier knowing armed gangs rule the streets of Jenin? What of the residents of holy Jerusalem? Have they suffered less because Ramallah, Bethlehem and Hebron are under the thumb of the “Palestinians”?

Most recently Israel transferred 100 percent of the Gaza Strip to PA control, telling Jewish residents of nearby towns the move would improve their lot and that of their countrymen.

The town of Sderot was immediately pummeled in the largest single Gaza-based rocket attack to date, with the promise of more to come.

In what can only be called a classic case of understatement, Rice noted correctly that more work needs to be done on the security front. The answer, however, does not lie in reforming the PLO/PA or even amending its deadly charter.

Rather, Israel and the US need to recognize that they made a terrible error of judgment in entrusting to a terrorist organization the safety and security of those the terrorists had dedicated their lives to destroying.

There is absolutely nothing to suggest that providing the PLO with sovereign rule over Israel's ancient heartland is going to bring any security to the Jewish state. Without exception, all the evidence points to the opposite outcome.

The creation of a Palestinian state will lead to the destruction of Israel. JNW Site Search


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1 posted on 11/14/2005 2:33:23 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth
Israel that the birth of a Palestinian Arab state on the biblical lands of Judea, Samaria and Gaza will bring increased security to the Jewish state.
This has GOT to be the biggest "head in the sand" statement ever made!
Using this logic, we would need to reinstate slavery so Americans of African ancestry could finally be free.

Cordially,
GE
2 posted on 11/14/2005 2:37:55 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Esther Ruth
As an entity without a state, Palestine was pretty much free to anything they wanted since Israel could not declare war against something as ethereal as the Palestinian people. Now they have a state, they have all the responsibilities and risks associated with that recognition. Their people may not respond to international mediation tactics, but their government will.
3 posted on 11/14/2005 2:39:01 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Sins can be forgiven but stupid is forever.)
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To: Ben Mugged
Their people may not respond to international mediation tactics, but their government will.
Hummm.... Didn't work too well in Afghanistan or Iraq.
The ONLY reasons these folks "negotiate" is to see what you will give up next.
4 posted on 11/14/2005 2:44:43 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Ben Mugged

The Palestinians seem to be determined to NEVER develop into a viable state with a stable government.


5 posted on 11/14/2005 2:46:22 PM PST by alloysteel (Payback and reality may not be related, but they can both be a b*tch.)
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To: Esther Ruth

Rice has come out of the closet and shown all the world that she too hates Jews. It's sad, I expected so much more than that out of her.


6 posted on 11/14/2005 2:51:26 PM PST by thoughtomator (Bring Back HCUA!)
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To: Esther Ruth

I really can't believe that some folks here want to see Condi as our next president. This isn't the first time she has made ridiculous statements like this.


7 posted on 11/14/2005 2:53:01 PM PST by frankiep
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To: Esther Ruth
evidence exactly the secretary bases that assessment.

ALL EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY

8 posted on 11/14/2005 2:54:12 PM PST by marty60
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To: frankiep
I really can't believe that some folks here want to see Condi as our next president.

LOL! Some folks around here would vote for Hillary if she ran as a Republican!
9 posted on 11/14/2005 2:55:19 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: alloysteel; Esther Ruth
The Palestinians seem to be determined to NEVER develop into a viable state with a stable government.

Then Israel will tire rapidly with the attacks, declare war, and exercise their international rights under existing treaties. The UN will negotiate an end to the war and acquire responsibilities for the disarmament of the Palestinians. Either way, Israel gets the policing of Palestine off their backs and Palestine gets international peacekeepers.

10 posted on 11/14/2005 2:56:20 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Sins can be forgiven but stupid is forever.)
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To: Esther Ruth

Statements like this make Ms. Rice appear to be stupid or some kind of anti Jewish kook.


11 posted on 11/14/2005 3:09:33 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, not just a suggestion)
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To: GrandEagle

I suppose if someone was an enemy of Israel there is more than one way to go about destroying her and taking what is rightfully hers.

The obvious enemies just claim it and say it is theirs and all that follows.

Other enemies may hide behind the above and have them do the dirty work while giving the world an impression of otherwise, sort of killing two birds with one stone, using enemies to destroy each other, then when they are done and they are done with using them, march in for the conquering.


12 posted on 11/14/2005 3:14:04 PM PST by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3 ***ZECH 12:3)
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To: thoughtomator
Rice has come out of the closet and shown all the world that she too hates Jews.
I'm not sure this is so. She is just following the party line, not caring what really happens either way. That is the WORST kind of politician. I would rather have an enemy at the gate than an ally that goes with the flow. At least you know where your enemy stands.
13 posted on 11/14/2005 3:30:23 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle

"LOL! Some folks around here would vote for Hillary if she ran as a Republican!"

-- The sad thing is that Hilly is at least TALKING like a Republican.

Not that she would ever ACT like one.


On the other hand ... the Republicans don't ACT like ones either


14 posted on 11/14/2005 4:51:10 PM PST by Casekirchen (If allah is really another name for the Judeo-Christian God, why do the islamics pray to a rock?)
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To: Powerclam; Cobra64; staytrue
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that providing the PLO with sovereign rule over Israel's ancient heartland is going to bring any security to the Jewish state. Without exception, all the evidence points to the opposite outcome.

The creation of a Palestinian state will lead to the destruction of Israel.


Understanding the history of what has happened to Jewish people particularly in the Twentieth Century; knowing that history is why a Jewish state even exists in the Middle East; and knowing Dr. Rice's policies and determination to promote the Arab agenda - that would make Dr. Rice, an anti-Semite.
15 posted on 11/14/2005 5:00:42 PM PST by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: thoughtomator

"Rice has come out of the closet and shown all the world that she too hates Jews. It's sad, I expected so much more than that out of her."

Maybe she does. But she surely speaks for the President here? How can that be? Is George "gone away" somewhere?


16 posted on 11/14/2005 7:48:00 PM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: strategofr

It appears to me that she is acting autonomously. The "Israel must restrain itself" line is not consistent with the President's Road Map, under which Israel has no obligations before the Palestinians end terrorism.


17 posted on 11/14/2005 7:50:45 PM PST by thoughtomator (Bring Back HCUA!)
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To: Ben Mugged
They don't have a state yet. Now this is something like Kosovo.
18 posted on 11/15/2005 3:06:11 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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19 posted on 11/15/2005 6:35:00 AM PST by SJackson (plain old American who doesn't accept all these white vs non-white, jew vs christian ideologies,2002)
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To: thoughtomator
Rice has come out of the closet and shown all the world that she too hates Jews.

I'm sorry, I see a lot of posters asserting this but the above article proves nothing but either shortsightedness or state department blather. Can you please cite for me Rice's Jew-hatred?

20 posted on 11/15/2005 6:38:30 AM PST by AmishDude (Amishdude, the one and only.)
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