Posted on 11/13/2005 3:49:41 PM PST by Crackingham
U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum said Saturday that he doesn't believe that intelligent design belongs in the science classroom. Santorum's comments to The Times are a shift from his position of several years ago, when he wrote in a Washington Times editorial that intelligent design is a "legitimate scientific theory that should be taught in the classroom."
But on Saturday, the Republican said that, "Science leads you where it leads you."
Santorum was in Beaver Falls to present Geneva College President Kenneth A. Smith with a $1.345 million check from federal funds for renovations that include the straightening and relocation of Route 18 through campus.
Santorum's comments about intelligent design come at a time when the belief that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power, an alternative to the theory of evolution, has come under fire on several fronts.
A federal trial just wrapped up in which eight families sued Dover Area School District in eastern Pennsylvania. The district's school board members tried to introduce teaching intelligent design into the classroom, but the families said the policy violated the constitutional separation of church and state. No ruling has been issued on the trial, but Tuesday, all eight Dover School Board members up for re-election were ousted by voters, leading to a fiery tirade by religious broadcaster Pat Robertson.
Robertson warned residents, "If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected him from your city."
Santorum said flatly Saturday, "I disagree. I don't believe God abandons people," and said he has not spoken to Robertson about his comments.
Though Santorum said he believes that intelligent design is "a legitimate issue," he doesn't believe it should be taught in the classroom, adding that he had concerns about some parts of the theory.
I'd require that we also teach a third theory that's it all the dream of an autistic child, and leave it at that.
From pung to pungent.
He's running for reelection. He's trying to be all things to all people I guess.
Better to lose with integrity than to abandon your values and stand for nothing. Santorum has surrendered to the left. Sad and too damn bad! He was a good conservative soldier for awhile. Now his is simply another traitor to America.
Huh? Did you understand a thing I said? Evolution has been verified multiple times and ways.
"The flimsey evidence that exists to support the theory of evolution (from single cell to man) is just that, flimsey. You can't point to another theory that you will accept, so yours must be the only one.
Show me another theory that does a better job at explaining our observations, then we'll talk.
There is much more to evolution than just the lineage from single celled organisms to man. Why do you insist on relying on that one point to show all of evolution false?
"In the dark ages, it was the Christians who vilified scientific thinkers. Today it's the scientific thinkers turn.
What?
No!
I'm glad you recognize that "some" evolution has been observed. The evidence is strong that the creation of different species has been an evolutionary process.
Sure there are many missing links in the fossil record. That is the nature of fossilization. Sure, one can't demonstrate a continous lineage from single cell organism to humans.
But as you admit there is a lot of evidence that different species have involved.
The above is a very simple scientific summary of evolution. It is what should be taught in science class. It is what was taught to me in college as a GeoChem major.
As I look through my old Geology, Paleontology, Stratigraphy books that I saved from college, I notice that nowhere in these books does it say that man evolved from apes.
Particularly in my "Evolution of the Earth" science book I look for any such statement of fact and I don't see it. When this books mentions Darwin, it doesn't cover Darwin's postulation about apes and man. It does mention natural selection, the fossil record and the specifics of cell mutations.
This is science. ID is not science.
You have been listening to propaganda
Question #1: Isn't Santorum being vilified for keeping I.D. out of science class?
Question #2: Do you D1 believe that ID should be taught in science class?
Post #271 is for you.
If you do, I won't hold any punches. :-P
Your above statement is correct. Very rarely is the origin of humans talked about when evolution is discussed. As I mentioned in a previous post, I can't find it in any of my Geo and Paleo text books.
BTW, I think D1 does say that some evolution has occurred. Isn't that correct D1?
Anyone ever stop to think that a pro-evolution scientist that verifiably debunked the ToE could win a Nobel and a million dollars?
In what way?
I hear that the flat earth people are still, after all of these years, racking in the bucks.
Right?
He's right. Creationism is for 1st Graders'. Get real, conservatives. Creationism is as real as Mighty Mouse. What a crock. From a TRUE Conservative..
A variation on this is "WELL, WHAT BANGED?!?!?!?"
But we have also stated that theories are verifiable and are only accepted when they pass testing.
I explained why science is not provable a number of posts ago. I also explained why we can trust theories without some specific absolute proof. Our entire technological society is based on science that has never been proven in the sense you use the term. Is that not enough for us to be confident in its value?
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