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French Police Turn On Chirac As Officer Jailed
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-13-2005 | Kim Willsher/Henry Samuel

Posted on 11/12/2005 4:40:41 PM PST by blam

French police turn on Chirac as officer jailed

By Kim Willsher in Paris and Henry Samuel in Bobigny
(Filed: 13/11/2005)

After 16 nights battling urban violence by rioters, Jacques Chirac's government is confronting angry new protests - from the police themselves.

Firefighters extinguish a burning car in Strasbourg

Officers at the forefront of attempts to control the wave of riots and arson attacks across France are furious at moves to prosecute policemen accused of assaulting a youth.

As officers were deployed in force in Paris yesterday following a call on weblogs for a mass demonstration, the police union described the jailing of one officer and the suspension of others as "incomprehensible and unacceptable".

Police officers, who have been targeted with stones, missiles and Molotov cocktails since the trouble broke out, said they were "stupefied" by the action taken against their colleagues. Alliance, the main police union, appealed to members for calm after the decision to take the first steps towards charging five police officers implicated in the assault on a youth.

State television showed images of two officers hitting and kicking a young man while six colleagues stood by watching in the northern Paris suburb of La Courneuve on Monday. One officer is being held in detention while four others are also under formal investigation.

The French interior ministry said the victim had suffered cuts to his face and right foot, but had been declared fit for work.

The case has brought to the surface growing police resentment at the failure by politicians to resolve the crisis, the most serious and protracted outbreak of violence in France since 1968.

Jean-Pierre Raymaud, the leader of another police union, told Le Figaro newspaper: "For 15 days we've been targeted constantly and under a lot of pressure. This isn't an excuse but it has to be taken into account. The police have done their work and I don't think finding one or two scapegoats just to demonstrate firmness is fair."

Yesterday afternoon police were out in force but maintaining a discreet profile on the Champs-Elyseés, Paris's most celebrated avenue, after bloggers from the banlieues called for a demonstration yesterday evening. Squad cars and coaches full of riot police were parked in side streets and at either end of the avenue.

The police said that 502 cars had been burned on Friday night, more than on either of the two previous nights, and 206 people were taken into custody.

Mr Chirac's ministers are relying on a combination of police power, curfew orders and a court crackdown to quell the rioting. So far, 593 adults among the 2,440 people arrested have been rushed through "fast track" hearings and 464 have been sent to jail for up to a year. A further 102 juveniles have received custodial sentences.

Pascal Clement, the justice minister, said last week: "I have instructed prosecutors to recommend the strictest sentences for those who have deliberately crossed the laws of the Republic."

The number of cases being pushed through three special courts at Bobigny, northeast of Paris, has led to complaints that justice is being rushed. Mourad Sehan, a legal aid defence lawyer, said: "One man whom I defended and was given a five-month sentence had an alibi that nobody bothered to verify."

Two defendants who appeared before the judge in Chamber 17 of Bobigny criminal court were typical. As their handcuffs were removed, Youssouf Souare, 20, and Bandiougou Diawara, 18, gazed nervously around the crowded courthouse as they were charged with "fabricating and possessing an explosive device". In other words: making a petrol bomb. On the wooden benches, their bewildered families were outnumbered by journalists.

The police claimed that officers had discovered a bottle of petrol and three rags in the boot of their car, and traces of petrol on their hands.

Souare insisted there was just half an inch of cleaning petrol in a plastic bottle, and three old rags - which he said he had because he was employed to remove graffiti on the local council estate. The prosecutor looked embarrassed and declined to recommend a sentence. The two men were acquitted, to cheers from their supporters.

François Molins, the prosecutor general at Bobigny, said: "Trials are rapid but not rushed. We are used to dealing with urban violence and we have kept our serenity."


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To: blam
Another thread where we can feel oh so superior to the Frogs!

Paging Mark Fuhrman!

41 posted on 11/12/2005 5:17:38 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("in the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: blam
Those urbane Frenchy-French are maintaining serenity. I did not realize the past couple of weeks had been serene.

Chirac dealing with this is what we need to watch. Will he be successful or will someone be voted off of the island?

I'm sure (I hope) we have contingency plans should this happen widespread in the US or other European countries besides France. President Bush really needs to speak to world leaders and reemphasize that 'you are with us or you are with the terrorists.'

I imagine Chirac regrets his previous checker move to Pres. Bush's chess move.

It is not too late, M. Chirac. Join in the war on world terrorism, but if it looks like you are going to screw us one more time, I don't EVEN want to know the consequences that will be considered!
42 posted on 11/12/2005 5:22:35 PM PST by hummingbird (Think I'll google for a while.....on FRED THOMPSON for a seat on the SUPREME COURT!)
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To: Travis McGee
"France is doomed, it will not be saved by street fighting French pensioners."

It really is over for France!

43 posted on 11/12/2005 5:23:14 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
How to break Chirac: the whole police force walks off the job for a couple days. No police at all will make the Worm think twice.
44 posted on 11/12/2005 5:24:30 PM PST by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: Bahbah
Were you aware that Sheboygan is my home town or was that just a lucky guess?

Huh! If my life had depended on guessing your home town then I would now be dead.

Wisconsin goes with cheese and many of us non-Sheboyganites find the name humorous.

45 posted on 11/12/2005 5:25:49 PM PST by decimon
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To: Tempest
"I wouldn't blame the police for abandononing their post."

Yup. The army should be handling this continuing problem.

46 posted on 11/12/2005 5:26:09 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
We are used to dealing with urban violence and we have kept our serenity.

Chirac serene as Paris burns.

47 posted on 11/12/2005 5:26:11 PM PST by Joe Miner
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To: BulletBobCo
Love your pic!

Tom is irritated over this story, but I'm not :)


48 posted on 11/12/2005 5:26:18 PM PST by demkicker
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To: blam

"102 juveniles have received custodial sentences."

Maybe the "custodians" need to be sentanced too for not controlling their kids. Oh wait, the kids are doing what they are taught to do at the mosque. Nevermind.


49 posted on 11/12/2005 5:26:51 PM PST by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: norton

Oddly enough, it's < strike > < / strike > .


50 posted on 11/12/2005 5:27:44 PM PST by FreedomFarmer (Some settling of consonants may have occurred during shipping.)
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To: HangnJudge; All
Ruh Roh

First thing I thought, too, when I saw this headline. "Ruh Roh," big time!

I'm not knowledgeable about French law enforcement...can I assume the local police are first line? Is there a second line of defense like perhaps our National Guard?

If this quickly blows up and out-of-hand, does Chirac declare martial law or something like that?

I'm thinking of Iran, too, as I post this. Should the student movement "take to the streets," would the mullahs declare a martial law situation? Would they have the police or troops to back up a martial law situation?
51 posted on 11/12/2005 5:31:12 PM PST by hummingbird (Think I'll google for a while.....on FRED THOMPSON for a seat on the SUPREME COURT!)
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To: norton
I been watchin you Norton.

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52 posted on 11/12/2005 5:33:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Bahbah

Sheboygan is my native town too. Pretty amazing.


53 posted on 11/12/2005 5:36:11 PM PST by Luke21 (Political correctness is the insane religion of our rulers.)
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To: FreedomFarmer
Oddly enough, it's < strike > < / strike > .

< s >< / s > will also work.

54 posted on 11/12/2005 5:36:41 PM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals exist only if you think they do.)
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To: decimon
many of us non-Sheboyganites find the name humorous.

As did those on the Vaudville circuit, hence the song "Mention My Name in Sheboygan"...etc.

55 posted on 11/12/2005 5:36:43 PM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Luke21

Amazing indeed. What side of town? And when did you leave?


56 posted on 11/12/2005 5:39:10 PM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Bahbah

We'll be having none of your Sheboygananigans areound here.


57 posted on 11/12/2005 5:39:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Lizarde
a whole new chapter in this sorry affair

This is not just an 'affair'...this is the next step in the evolution of the jihadist movement...

Humans are not evolutionary...a study of the history of the Peloponnesian war is a road map for what is happening today...

Its only a matter of time before the persistent chaos has its effect...

And with each day we grow closer to 'a' seminal moment...

It will be interesting to see what the western humans do at that precise point in time...which is coming...

58 posted on 11/12/2005 5:39:59 PM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: cripplecreek
Sheboygananigans

Yah, it can get pretty rowdy if you go down by the lake.

59 posted on 11/12/2005 5:41:06 PM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: blam

Let them eat cake!!!


60 posted on 11/12/2005 5:46:33 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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