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HILL DUCKS LIBBY ISSUE (shazam---pardon issues reopen Clintons' wounds)
NY POST ^ | November 12, 2005 | IAN BISHOP

Posted on 11/12/2005 6:31:47 AM PST by Liz

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is staying silent as top Democratic senators demand President Bush rule out a pardon for indicted top White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby — which could evoke memories of her and her husband's own Pardongate scandal.

Party leaders — have written a letter to Bush urging that he promise not to pardon Libby, who has been charged with obstruction of justice and perjury in the CIA-leak case........Clinton ducked taking a position on the letter.

Rekindled comparisons to Pardongate would open old wounds for the first lady, who is readying for re-election and eyeing a run for the White House in 2008.

Bill Clinton created an uproar when he issued 11th-hour pardons to 140 people before he left office.

Sen. Clinton herself came under fire when feds investigated whether she offered clemency to four men from the Hasidic village of New Square in exchange for the community's votes in her 2000 Senate run. She has denied playing a role in the men's pardons.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheney; cialeak; fitzgerald; libby; marcrich; pardongate; phlame; scotterlibby; vp
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To: Liz
The Clinton admin's midnight hour Rich pardon created a global firestorm. In a blatant breach of established protocol, Clinton did not even notify the Dept of Justice. Rich is really sleazy---one of the biggest convicted tax evaders in US history, who renounced his American citizenship to evade prosecution, and fled abroad to escape the clutches of the law.

If Marc Rich was Catholic you would ignore him. You would care less. You only post about Jewish and black miscreants. You are fighting the last war. Islam is the threat. Not Jews. Every smart European knows this today even if he didn't last month. But to the Jew obsessed this is irrelevant.

41 posted on 11/12/2005 7:24:44 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: Liz; veronica; dennisw; SJackson; Alouette; Salem; Hildy; bitt; FrPR

... and while I am on the subject .... whatthehell is namby-pamby-papa-Bush doing paling around with Bill Clinton? No sooner does "Read my Lips" appear on TV making goo-goo eyes at ole Bill, than Bill takes off on a speaking tour slamming the crap out of ALL the Bush family and the horse they rode in on.


42 posted on 11/12/2005 7:26:50 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Valerie Plame was about as much of a Secret Agent as Aunt Jemima.)
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To: dennisw
You are fighting the last war...

And her side lost. *Snicker*

43 posted on 11/12/2005 7:28:12 AM PST by veronica (What will "Ronnie" think? The question that obsesses the internut clowns...)
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To: Liz

This is a bit bizzar. It's hard to believe a man of this stature would do things like this.


44 posted on 11/12/2005 7:31:26 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Kenny Bunk
I'll agree with that. I don't think Poppy should spend so much time with Bubba, but last I read Hillery was polling nationally at 29% for a presidential run, so no harm no foul, so far.

But Libby has been convicted of nothing, except here on some threads, where hs has been convicetd of being a Democrat (not a fact) and/or of being a pervert, for a book nobody has read, written in a literary genre the local yokels would probably not understand anyway.

45 posted on 11/12/2005 7:33:36 AM PST by veronica (What will "Ronnie" think? The question that obsesses the internut clowns...)
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To: Gondring; Liz
I believe Libby's registered as an Independent.

Liz, he WAS NOT indicted on the original charge which the special prosecutor was hired to investigate: that of leaking classified information. He allegedly lied to the special prosecutor after the fact and THAT was what he was indicted for. There is no indication he was pushing ANY type of agenda beyond trying to get a friendly pen in the press.

This forum has really gone downhill. It's almost nothing but baseless attacks anymore.

46 posted on 11/12/2005 7:33:41 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule Them All and to the Dark Side Bind Them)
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To: veronica
All I've read so far is that he's a DNC hack... And where did you read that?

Same place you read that this was a big "out to get the Jew" conspiracy. In the windmills of your mind!

47 posted on 11/12/2005 7:33:55 AM PST by Bommer (To Ted Kennedy - "Fat Drunk and Stupid is no way to go through life son!" - Dean Wormer)
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To: tillacum
This is a bit bizzar.

Your atrocious spelling aside, what "things" has he done?

48 posted on 11/12/2005 7:34:53 AM PST by veronica (What will "Ronnie" think? The question that obsesses the internut clowns...)
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To: wildbill
"Libby was one of Marc Rich's lawyers prior to entering the Bush administration."

This is true. But, what what he retained for? Traffic tickets? Loitering? Or was it as Wikepedia shows:

"Marc Rich... fled the United States in 1983 to live in Switzerland in order to avoid prosecution on charges of tax evasion and ILLEGALLY MAKING OIL DEALS WITH IRAN DURING THE HOSTAGE CRISIS. (caps mine for emphasis)

49 posted on 11/12/2005 7:35:43 AM PST by Sam's Army (Intense and spicy, with a hint of sarcasm and a dry finish.)
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To: veronica

Viva la France!!!!


50 posted on 11/12/2005 7:36:07 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: Sam's Army

LOL. The tinfoil is getting deep in here.


51 posted on 11/12/2005 7:38:21 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule Them All and to the Dark Side Bind Them)
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To: Liz
Thanks for ping.

Clinton has been busy this past week revising his history, and I also did catch on CNN Wolf promoting Libby's novel.
52 posted on 11/12/2005 7:40:58 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: cake_crumb
I guess so, he was real stand-up guy and I guess Wikepedia could be lying about his Iran dealings, who knows?


53 posted on 11/12/2005 7:41:44 AM PST by Sam's Army (Intense and spicy, with a hint of sarcasm and a dry finish.)
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To: cake_crumb
The tinfoil is getting deep in here.

No kidding.

Have you heard that Dick Cheney is a DNC operative, and has had in his employ not one, but TWO just like him?

;)

54 posted on 11/12/2005 7:44:22 AM PST by veronica (What will "Ronnie" think? The question that obsesses the internut clowns...)
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To: Sam's Army

I know all about Marc Rich. YOU, however, do NOT know what Libby was retained for concerning Rich. You're weaving legends.


55 posted on 11/12/2005 7:45:18 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule Them All and to the Dark Side Bind Them)
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To: cake_crumb

OK, why was he retained?


56 posted on 11/12/2005 7:46:21 AM PST by Sam's Army (Intense and spicy, with a hint of sarcasm and a dry finish.)
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To: veronica
"Have you heard that Dick Cheney is a DNC operative, and has had in his employ not one, but TWO just like him?"

ROFLOL! No I hadn't...is one of his two Stepford operatives supposed to be Karl Rove, by any chance?

57 posted on 11/12/2005 7:46:49 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule Them All and to the Dark Side Bind Them)
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To: Gondring

Agreed.


58 posted on 11/12/2005 7:47:29 AM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Sam's Army
"OK, why was he retained?"

Exactly my point. I don't know why he was retained, and neither do you. You're wildly speculating, not discussing facts.

59 posted on 11/12/2005 7:48:20 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule Them All and to the Dark Side Bind Them)
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To: Liz

Your innuendo, words like "probably," and phrases like "must have been" are so comforting. And your contention that only "authentic conservatives" should agree with this stuff is highly insulting. (I was waiting to read the word "neocon" in your posts here, but maybe that's too flagrant a tipoff.)

I find attacks on people in the Bush administration --in order to attack the President himself-- disingenuous and sneaky.

Look, I don't dismiss anything you posit here as unbelievable. But excuse me if I wait until things thoroughly unfold before I decide just who the real bad guys are.


60 posted on 11/12/2005 7:49:31 AM PST by Fudd Fan (God bless President Bush! (Proud member of the Water Bucket Brigade - MOOSEMUSS!)
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