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Woman clings to life after she drank drain cleaner
Milwaukee Journal ^ | 11-10-2005 | JOHN DIEDRICH

Posted on 11/11/2005 11:09:29 AM PST by Cagey

Man who gave her solution has prior conviction

A 33-year-old Grafton woman was fighting for her life Thursday night after she drank concentrated drain cleaner given to her by a man who then videotaped her violent vomiting for his sexual gratification, Milwaukee police said.

With just two gulps, the caustic solution seared a path from the woman's lips down to her stomach, burning holes along the way and then likely scorched her again as she vomited the poison.

The woman, who was not identified, was at St. Michael Hospital, according to one of the victim's co-workers. Police said she might die.

Detectives are studying a videotape that shows the woman drinking the solution and then throwing up. Police said the tape shows at least three other women drinking solutions and becoming ill.

On Tuesday, police arrested Sean A. Kobin, 20, of Mequon, near the former Northridge Mall on suspicion of first-degree recklessly endangering safety, according to arrest records.

A registered sex offender in Wisconsin, Kobin was convicted last year of exposing a 13-year-old girl to harmful materials by urging her, in a series of phone calls and computer messages, to drink bleach, lighter fluid and urine to arose him sexually, according to a Waukesha County criminal complaint.

Kobin was released from prison April 19 after serving a year. He is on probation and was being held late Thursday in the Milwaukee police jail.

A man who answered the phone at the Farmdale Road home where Kobin lives has declined to comment. Kobin met the victim at Fantasy Gifts, an adult store at 8340 W. Brown Deer Road, where she worked, police said. At 10 a.m. Tuesday morning, Kobin and the woman - described by police as "acquaintances" - were in a parking lot. Kobin gave her $20 to drink the solution, police sources said.

Before drinking it, the woman asked Kobin whether it would hurt her and he said it wouldn't, sources said.

After the woman became violently ill, Kobin called 911, police said. She was rushed to the hospital, and he was arrested.

Capt. Michael Young called the episode "twisted." He and others at the Milwaukee Police Department, who deal with cases such as these on a regular basis, said they were not familiar with Kobin's alleged fetish.

"This is so awful," said Anne E. Schwartz, department spokeswoman. "We don't want to say anything that will compromise the investigation in any way."

Police sources said the woman drank sodium hydroxide, which is found in drain cleaner, but in a much higher concentration than found in products for household use.

Such severe poisonings are rare, according to Mary Powers, a registered nurse at the Wisconsin Poison Center. People who ingest drain cleaner are urged not to vomit, she said.

"You can get burns going down, and it can burn coming back up again," Powers said.

Patients are urged to call the poison center and get immediate medical attention. She said in a case such as one involving the Grafton woman that doctors likely would use intravenous feeding to let the esophagus and stomach heal by keeping away water and food. Infection would be another risk, prompting doctors to likely give her antibiotics, Power said. She also might have needed blood transfusions.

To repairs holes in the stomach and elsewhere, doctors might have to perform surgery, essentially stitching together what parts of the undamaged material that remain, Powers said.

In rare cases, drinking the drain cleaning solution, which is a base, can be deadly, she said. Base burns are much more damaging to human tissues than those caused by acids, causing an effect known as "liquefying necrosis," Powers said.

"It gets into the tissues and melts the tissues," Powers said. "It is a chemical burn. Because it is a base, is gets into the tissues much deeper."

Communicated with teen girl In June 2003, Kobin was arrested after police learned he communicated with a 13-year-old girl, urging her to perform dangerous acts for his sexual gratification.

According to the criminal complaint:

Kobin, who met the girl through her older sister, dared her over the phone to drink bleach, which she did. She began shaking and hung up the phone. Kobin told her later that night that her "immune system would skyrocket as a result of her drinking bleach."

On other occasions, Kobin dared the girl to drink other dangerous substances and cut herself, but she did not.

Kobin was convicted of two counts of exposing a child to harmful materials, a felony. He received a year in prison and 2 1/2 years of probation. He also was convicted of misdemeanor theft in Ozaukee County in 2003 and placed on 18 months' probation, according to online court records.

Since his release from prison, Kobin has not been found in violation of his probation, said John Dipko, spokesman for the state Department of Corrections. Kobin was monitored without incident by an electronic bracelet from April until Sept. 15 and met with his probation agent every week since his release, Dipko said.

Kobin works the third shift at a business in Mequon making CDs and DVDs, Dipko said


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To: sgtbono2002
What is really stupid about this is he could have given her Ipecac and gotten her to puke without damage to her throat.

Absolutely false.

61 posted on 11/11/2005 12:23:16 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Bonaparte; sgtbono2002
Here is a video of a guy taking the "Ipecac Challenge" for cash.
62 posted on 11/11/2005 12:23:24 PM PST by keat (Posting code without previewing since 2004)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
THIS is the problem. This guy should have been put up for at least involuntary manslaught on the FIRST go-around.

You can only charge someone with involuntary manslaughter if someone dies. In the prior case(s), no one did.

63 posted on 11/11/2005 12:24:26 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Cagey
He and others at the Milwaukee Police Department, who deal with cases such as these on a regular basis

I don't need to get out more often.

64 posted on 11/11/2005 12:28:12 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Cagey

A .22 behind the ear cures many problems. It is also quick, clean, inexpensive, and very effective.


65 posted on 11/11/2005 12:28:53 PM PST by jim-x (God help America survive its enemies within.)
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To: smith288
Reminds me of a Family Guy episode of Brian, Stewie, Chris and Peter Griffin all had wagered a bet who would puke last after they each drank a bottle of ipicac.

The infamous scene can be watched here, but click at your own risk. Don't say I didn't warn you.

66 posted on 11/11/2005 12:29:40 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: mosquitobite
This is the craziest person/story I've ever heard?!

No. Many serial killers get sexual satisfaction from the jerking and thrashing motions of the woman's body as she is fighting to live.

They are very sick people and need to be killed.

67 posted on 11/11/2005 12:29:48 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Ichneumon

OK, let's say.... attempted murder?!


68 posted on 11/11/2005 12:31:20 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Ichneumon; sgtbono2002; Bonaparte; ConservativeMind
[What is really stupid about this is he could have given her Ipecac and gotten her to puke without damage to her throat.] Absolutely false.

Oh, wait, I see what you're saying now.

I and the others originally took your post to mean that he could have given her Ipecac after having her drink the drain cleaner, and avoided the damage.

Instead, I see that you mean that if the guy got off on watching women vomit, he could have just used Ipecac *instead* of the drain cleaner, which would have been a "safe" way to cause her to vomit.

True enough, but it seems that this guy's fundamental fetish wasn't women vomiting, it was women drinking strange and/or harmful substances.

69 posted on 11/11/2005 12:33:46 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: popdonnelly

"This pervert deserves the death penalty."

Just put him away in the same prison where they put Jeffrey D and tell 'em he is a child molester and he poisons people - and he might try poisoning other inmates before eating them.


70 posted on 11/11/2005 12:34:11 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: mosquitobite
WTH?! This is the craziest person/story I've ever heard?!

I've heard worse. After friend's wife was murdered, he got involved in the victim's rights movement and has spent a lot of time working with other victims (or their surviving families) and in prisons, and I hear a lot of sick stuff via his experiences.

But yeah, this guy's high on the list.

71 posted on 11/11/2005 12:37:28 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Cagey

People should know from a medical/surgical perspective that there are only two medical outcomes from what happened here.

1. The woman dies a slow painful death.
2. She survives but wishes she was dead.

This is equivalent to dousing someone with gasoline and setting them on fire - they either die as a result or wish they were dead.

Whoever let this piece of filth see the light of day after his first offense should have to personally explain to this woman's family what he/she was thinking.


72 posted on 11/11/2005 12:44:13 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: Bonaparte
I bet she is a super dope fiend and would do ANYTHING for some money. It is unbelievable what these people will do for perverts for the promise of a few dollars. If that is the case I hope she lives and all the time she spends in the hospital will get her off the bad drugs and she will receive mental help also.

But the girl on the telephone...I cannot come up with an excuse for her.
73 posted on 11/11/2005 12:44:24 PM PST by A knight without armor
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To: caver

Oh, PLEASE. That has to be one of the stupidest things I have EVER read here.


74 posted on 11/11/2005 12:48:57 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Cagey
I'm categorically against the death penalty ... but when I read a story like this I want to off the bastar* myself.
75 posted on 11/11/2005 12:55:58 PM PST by manwiththehands
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To: Ichneumon

I guess I wasnt too clear, but what I meant as that if got off on women throwing up Ipecac would have done the job without harming her.

I assumed that was what he was getting off on , her vomiting. Now it seems he got off on watching pain as his victims were poisoned. They should bring back the guillotine for this character.


76 posted on 11/11/2005 12:56:15 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Bonaparte

Please read my post 76.


77 posted on 11/11/2005 12:57:43 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: sgtbono2002

Let this be a lesson to everyone. Drinking Drano might sound like a good idea at the time, but ultimately it will just leave you hollow inside.


78 posted on 11/11/2005 1:03:17 PM PST by wolfman
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To: Cagey

"A registered sex offender in Wisconsin, Kobin was convicted last year of exposing a 13-year-old girl to harmful materials by urging her, in a series of phone calls and computer messages, to drink bleach, lighter fluid and urine to arouse him sexually, according to a Waukesha County criminal complaint."

?????


79 posted on 11/11/2005 1:06:39 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Ichneumon
The infamous scene can be watched here, but click at your own risk. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Best. Scene. Ever. (and if you dont like puking...you are missing out)
80 posted on 11/11/2005 1:17:17 PM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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