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Woman clings to life after she drank drain cleaner
Milwaukee Journal ^ | 11-10-2005 | JOHN DIEDRICH

Posted on 11/11/2005 11:09:29 AM PST by Cagey

Man who gave her solution has prior conviction

A 33-year-old Grafton woman was fighting for her life Thursday night after she drank concentrated drain cleaner given to her by a man who then videotaped her violent vomiting for his sexual gratification, Milwaukee police said.

With just two gulps, the caustic solution seared a path from the woman's lips down to her stomach, burning holes along the way and then likely scorched her again as she vomited the poison.

The woman, who was not identified, was at St. Michael Hospital, according to one of the victim's co-workers. Police said she might die.

Detectives are studying a videotape that shows the woman drinking the solution and then throwing up. Police said the tape shows at least three other women drinking solutions and becoming ill.

On Tuesday, police arrested Sean A. Kobin, 20, of Mequon, near the former Northridge Mall on suspicion of first-degree recklessly endangering safety, according to arrest records.

A registered sex offender in Wisconsin, Kobin was convicted last year of exposing a 13-year-old girl to harmful materials by urging her, in a series of phone calls and computer messages, to drink bleach, lighter fluid and urine to arose him sexually, according to a Waukesha County criminal complaint.

Kobin was released from prison April 19 after serving a year. He is on probation and was being held late Thursday in the Milwaukee police jail.

A man who answered the phone at the Farmdale Road home where Kobin lives has declined to comment. Kobin met the victim at Fantasy Gifts, an adult store at 8340 W. Brown Deer Road, where she worked, police said. At 10 a.m. Tuesday morning, Kobin and the woman - described by police as "acquaintances" - were in a parking lot. Kobin gave her $20 to drink the solution, police sources said.

Before drinking it, the woman asked Kobin whether it would hurt her and he said it wouldn't, sources said.

After the woman became violently ill, Kobin called 911, police said. She was rushed to the hospital, and he was arrested.

Capt. Michael Young called the episode "twisted." He and others at the Milwaukee Police Department, who deal with cases such as these on a regular basis, said they were not familiar with Kobin's alleged fetish.

"This is so awful," said Anne E. Schwartz, department spokeswoman. "We don't want to say anything that will compromise the investigation in any way."

Police sources said the woman drank sodium hydroxide, which is found in drain cleaner, but in a much higher concentration than found in products for household use.

Such severe poisonings are rare, according to Mary Powers, a registered nurse at the Wisconsin Poison Center. People who ingest drain cleaner are urged not to vomit, she said.

"You can get burns going down, and it can burn coming back up again," Powers said.

Patients are urged to call the poison center and get immediate medical attention. She said in a case such as one involving the Grafton woman that doctors likely would use intravenous feeding to let the esophagus and stomach heal by keeping away water and food. Infection would be another risk, prompting doctors to likely give her antibiotics, Power said. She also might have needed blood transfusions.

To repairs holes in the stomach and elsewhere, doctors might have to perform surgery, essentially stitching together what parts of the undamaged material that remain, Powers said.

In rare cases, drinking the drain cleaning solution, which is a base, can be deadly, she said. Base burns are much more damaging to human tissues than those caused by acids, causing an effect known as "liquefying necrosis," Powers said.

"It gets into the tissues and melts the tissues," Powers said. "It is a chemical burn. Because it is a base, is gets into the tissues much deeper."

Communicated with teen girl In June 2003, Kobin was arrested after police learned he communicated with a 13-year-old girl, urging her to perform dangerous acts for his sexual gratification.

According to the criminal complaint:

Kobin, who met the girl through her older sister, dared her over the phone to drink bleach, which she did. She began shaking and hung up the phone. Kobin told her later that night that her "immune system would skyrocket as a result of her drinking bleach."

On other occasions, Kobin dared the girl to drink other dangerous substances and cut herself, but she did not.

Kobin was convicted of two counts of exposing a child to harmful materials, a felony. He received a year in prison and 2 1/2 years of probation. He also was convicted of misdemeanor theft in Ozaukee County in 2003 and placed on 18 months' probation, according to online court records.

Since his release from prison, Kobin has not been found in violation of his probation, said John Dipko, spokesman for the state Department of Corrections. Kobin was monitored without incident by an electronic bracelet from April until Sept. 15 and met with his probation agent every week since his release, Dipko said.

Kobin works the third shift at a business in Mequon making CDs and DVDs, Dipko said


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To: Alabama MOM; Shadow5644; Calpernia; LibertyRocks; DAVEY CROCKETT; MamaDearest

A 33-year-old Grafton woman was fighting for her life Thursday night
after she drank concentrated drain cleaner given to her by a man who
then videotaped her violent vomiting for his sexual gratification,
Milwaukee police said. <<<<<

This is a must read........


81 posted on 11/11/2005 1:20:50 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (WAKE UP AMERICA !!!!)
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To: Cagey

the woman asked Kobin whether it would hurt her and he said it wouldn't

I bet you could talk these women into just about anything!

Probably Dims.


82 posted on 11/11/2005 1:31:02 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: gcruse

Rape is one of the most horrible crimes by far. Few things are worse. What this guy did to the woman is one of them.


83 posted on 11/11/2005 1:33:15 PM PST by Paul_Denton (The U.S. should adopt the policy of Oom Shmoom: Israeli policy where no one gives a sh*t about U.N.)
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To: ironpuppy

Comet - it makes your teeth turn green.
Comet - it tastes like gasoline.
Comet - it makes you vomit.
So get Comet, and vomit today.


85 posted on 11/11/2005 1:33:37 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: caver

Exactly. These women are beyond stupid to drink it. Even if they thought it was a wine tasting, you would take a sip & spit it out or at the very least only swallow a little bit.
If somebody gave me a glass of drain cleaner & said "CHUG IT!"....I just dump the glass.


86 posted on 11/11/2005 2:03:36 PM PST by Feiny (Great Minds think alike & fools seldom differ.)
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To: Cagey

"I'll give you $20 to drink some drain cleaner."

"Will it hurt me?"

"No, it will help you win a DARWIN Award"


87 posted on 11/11/2005 2:09:58 PM PST by Feiny (Great minds think alike & fools seldom differ.)
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To: Kozak

I'd toss him in a vat of the stuff... 10ft. deep. If he can tread for half & hour... I'd grant him a bullet in the head.


88 posted on 11/11/2005 2:18:34 PM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: Ichneumon

Thank you for the clarification. I can see how that may have been the intent of his post.

My take on the guy's arousal factor was that he was capable of getting people to voluntarily harm themselves at his whim.

Such power allowed him to feel he rivaled God.


89 posted on 11/11/2005 5:24:12 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: Cagey

This is one case where the bestial criminal needs to get exactly what he gave to his victims.


90 posted on 11/11/2005 5:34:11 PM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: Cagey
Kobin met the victim at Fantasy Gifts, an adult store at 8340 W. Brown Deer Road, where she worked, police said. At 10 a.m. Tuesday morning, Kobin and the woman - described by police as "acquaintances" - were in a parking lot. Kobin gave her $20 to drink the solution, police sources said.

Before drinking it, the woman asked Kobin whether it would hurt her and he said it wouldn't, sources said.

A stranger gives her something to drink and pays for it. There would be less crime in the world if people would use their common sense.

91 posted on 11/11/2005 5:36:02 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: pollyannaish

"Oh, PLEASE. That has to be one of the stupidest things I have EVER read here."

Because why??? I tell you to drink something and you do and believe me??? Do you believe anything anybody tells you?


92 posted on 11/11/2005 5:40:53 PM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: feinswinesuksass

You really have to wonder why these women would believe something a virtual stranger told them. "Yea, drink this, it won't hurt you."


93 posted on 11/11/2005 5:43:11 PM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Cagey

So what exactly is the purpose of probation?


94 posted on 11/11/2005 5:47:26 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Cagey

Lex Luther's evil clone?


95 posted on 11/11/2005 8:16:19 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: caver
Perhaps I misread your intent, but it sounded as if you were blaming her.

I believe that women who are raped, more often than not, have put themselves in compromising situations—wrong people, wrong places, wrong substances ingested, etc.—but in the end, one person INTENDED to harm the other and took advantage of the opportunity.

In this case, she should not have trusted him when he said it wouldn't hurt her, and further she should have thought about what he was asking her to do. She was completely stupid which is very dangerous when one is hanging out with a world class pervert...BUT when the rubber meets the road, he did something exceptionally evil and the blame lies with him and him alone.

That does not mean it shouldn't be a lesson to us all—on many levels. It's just that there is a huge difference between "intent to harm" and "stupidity." I sometimes wonder about people who can not see the difference. No one ever gets to say "She was being stupid so she should bear some responsibility for the fact that I killed her."

That said, I do need to apologize. I came down on you as hard as I did because I get fed up with the attitude that whenever something bad happens, it is that own persons fault.

Just read the Holloway threads or the Elizabeth Smart threads. There are always people who jump on and say "Well, if that person hadn't done such and such this wouldn't have happened." Well, duh. And I bet the Smarts are a lot smarter about hiring people to work on their house, and parents are a lot smarter about sending their kids off to Island paradises known for their parties.

My perspective is that ALL of us do stupid things and most of us are fortunate enough to come through unscathed. But when something happens, it is a "there but by the grace of God go I" situation and I will do all that I can to help that person. And that starts by calling evil, evil, despite stupidity.

Anyway, the point is I clobbered you because I was really fed up with it and looking back I realize that may not have been what you meant.

So—I am sorry.
96 posted on 11/11/2005 9:26:43 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Frank_2001

Esophageal cancer usually occurs in the context of chronic esophageal insults that continually damage the epithelial lining of the esophagus. This woman, if she does survive, won't have much epithelial tissue left at all to become dysplastic. That doesn't mean that there won't be some severe late effects from the damage, though. Alkali liquids cause a very penetrating form of tissue damage (as opposed to acids, which produce mostly superficial damage in the esophagus, and cause the most damage in the pylorus of the stomach). The poison could very well perforate her esophagus. Even if that doesn't happen, the tissue that is formed to replace the destroyed tissue won't be what the esophagus is supposed to be constructed from--it'll be all fibrous tissue. As the collagen in the scar shrinks with time, her esophagus will gradually constrict. And the destruction of smooth muscle and nervous tissue would combine with the constriction to make it VERY hard for her to swallow. Not very fun at all.


97 posted on 11/11/2005 9:54:54 PM PST by The Phantom FReeper (Now surfing FR on my new iMac G5!)
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Hang him, please, hang him from a tree.


98 posted on 11/11/2005 9:56:09 PM PST by Cougar66 (If I had ever wanted a woman to be President, I'd have voted for John Kerry or Jimmy Carter)
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To: Doogle

Did he force it down her throat?


99 posted on 11/11/2005 10:00:18 PM PST by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Forgive me for misinterpreting your post, sarge. Some might say the guillotine's too good for this monster.


100 posted on 11/11/2005 10:59:46 PM PST by Bonaparte
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