Posted on 11/10/2005 2:29:17 PM PST by ncountylee
THE exchange could hardly have been worse for the French police as they strive to allay their reputation as enemy of the ethnic estates.
TF1, the television channel, showed a young Arab on the outskirts of Lyons objecting politely about the insulting manner of an officer who had demanded his identity papers.
"You want me to take you to a transformer?" the officer sneers back, referring to the electricity station where two teenagers were electrocuted while fleeing an identity check.
The incident sparked the riots.
"We don't give a shit if your estate calms down," said the officer, using the disrespectful "tu" rather than "vous".
In fact, the more it gets f...ed up the happier we are."
The episode hardly conveyed the responsible manner for which the Government has been congratulating the hard-pressed forces de l'ordre during the ethnic rioting that broke out in response to the teenagers' deaths on October 27.
It did illustrate the wall of incomprehension that separates the white French police from the inhabitants of the sprawling estates whose young men have gone on the rampage.
(Excerpt) Read more at themercury.news.com.au ...
Great line. LOL
The "RACAIILE" knew they were being filmed, the media set up the police.That is why they were being polite.
Kristopher.
OK to burn down school, not OK to insult poor young man.
I don't believe this story. I feel that it is a lie.
It is just to PC right after all the bad press they are getting.
Wow someone in France with a pair. Too bad he'll be neutered by tomorrow.
I believe in madam LaFarge's day it was "would you like
us to take vu to le bar bare"
Or words to that effect
Now, that's just WRONG.
So it's OK to say mangez de la m**** et moiriez-vous!
You know, these people are watching their country go up in flames caused by those who don't want to have much to do with the French culture. I can understand if a police officer or two might not have the patience to deal with creeps.
This demonstrates one of the two pillars of the French view of the issue: there is exclusion, and there is police brutality.
France has chosen the route it has because it believes that by taking police brutality firmly in hand, and by getting jobs into the banlieux Beurs, that the Beurs CAN integrate. French people by and large believe that the Beurs WANT to integrate, but can't. The walls are too steep. Many French are ambivalent about the integration, but most are not willing to give up on the philosophic belief that underpins the Republic without giving it a real chance.
All that this does is demonstrate the extent to which the references to police brutality are not mere fantasms on the part of the Beurs. French police ARE brutal.
HE used the familiar TU instead of the formal VOUS!
We must kill them all!
/sarc
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1865533_2,00.html
CANDID CONFRONTATION
THIS is an extract of a verbal exchange between police and estate teenagers near Lyons, shown on the TF1 television channel.First a boy addresses a police officer who has demanded the boy’s papers in rough terms — using the disrespectful “tu” instead of a formal “vous” — and told him to “shut your face”
First boy: “You (Vous) tell us to ‘shut your face’ and we haven’t done anything, Monsieur”
Policeman: “You want me to take you into an electricity sub-station?” (where two teenagers were electrocuted)
First boy: “Sorry Monsieur, you are being rude and I haven’t spoken to you, M’sieur”
Policeman: “In that case don’t talk. We’re telling you to get back, so get back”
First boy: “Listen Monsieur, we are using ‘vous’ with you but you and your colleague are using ‘tu’ with us. We are respectful . . .”
A second boy insults a bald policeman, saying: “Good for you, you’ve got cancer, you’re all bald”
Second policeman: “So you want to go and fry with your mates? You want to go into the transformer? Shut your ugly mug, we’re going to give you a going over”
First boy: “If that’s the way it is, do you think that the estate will calm down?”
Third policeman: “We don’t give a shit if the estate calms down or not. Actually, the more it gets f****d up, the happier we are”
Note: It appeared that the polite boy knew that the television camera was there — but the police did not
Bad for the cops, actually. Could it be that the officer told the truth, and that the police and the government don't really want to stop the rioting?
Surrender Monkey Logic.
Still sleepwalking through history, eh?
A French policeman wearing his helmet is considered a "provocation" to the beurs in these neighborhoods? And it is better for a French policeman to be struck in the head by a rock or a petanque boule than to seem "provocative?"
The French have already lost if they accept the mindset that the banlieues are foreign territory.
""You want me to take you to a transformer?"
Great line. LOL"
Or really really stupid, depending on how you look at it.
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