[Vicomte13]

This demonstrates one of the two pillars of the French view of the issue: there is exclusion, and there is police brutality.

France has chosen the route it has because it believes that by taking police brutality firmly in hand, and by getting jobs into the banlieux Beurs, that the Beurs CAN integrate. French people by and large believe that the Beurs WANT to integrate, but can't. The walls are too steep. Many French are ambivalent about the integration, but most are not willing to give up on the philosophic belief that underpins the Republic without giving it a real chance.

All that this does is demonstrate the extent to which the references to police brutality are not mere fantasms on the part of the Beurs. French police ARE brutal.

[Gritty]

French people by and large believe that the Beurs WANT to integrate, but can't. The walls are too steep.

Still sleepwalking through history, eh?

[drlevy88]

French police ARE brutal.

Seems to me just an extension of the uncouthness of the French.