Posted on 11/10/2005 1:22:46 PM PST by qam1
Funny, alot of you guys say that. It's a nice excuse.
Cheers,
CSG
No kidding. I take nothing for granted anymore.
No just familial anecdotes... (and they think they are bragging)...
Cheers,
CSG
Excuse? You are a real peice of work, arn't you?
I served in the military. I see you have not answered if you did.
Problem is the way things is going it looks like those promises to military retirees is going to be broken sooner or later.
I suggest you take a look at my posts also...I am nearly a baby boomer, my husband spent 28+ yrs in the military, defending this country, we paid our taxes, bought our house and RV, with cash, not even chosing to have a mortgage...we have provided for our retirement, and are comfy in our retirement...we dont need your help, nor do we appreciate being told we are selfish...we never took help from anyone, dont intend to take help from anyone, raised our children to be industrious, and guess what?...all of our friends, have similar situations...
You might want to chose to believe that most Baby Boomers are the selfish, self centered, non caring people that you have tried to portray...you are way off the mark...
And, by the way, I took care of my dad in his home until just until a few days before the day he died..and after his death, moved my Alzheimer stricken mom with me and my family, and she lived with us for years until she died in my arms...tell me again, how selfish I, this baby boomer am...
I sure hope not. :-(
Not the ugly nurses threat! That's just cruel and unusual punishment. ;^)
After reading some of the posts on this thread, I can understand why some retirees are taking out reverse mortgages. They want to care for themselves and not depend on children and, at the same time, not worry about leaving anything to children who are selfish.
And its a shame, that the military promises you things when you sign up, and then renig on those things...
My husband loved being in the military...he said, one of the reasons he joined up, was because it was the best way he could find, to protect his family...
He finds it a sad, sorry state, when the military wont honor its committments to those who served...
I agree, its a real shame, when the army is all too happy to sign someone up, and that person serves 20+ yrs, and then that person finds out that what he was promised has been taken away...despicable way to treat the vets...
Nice non-answer. Which is it, safe and sound or out there?
I first saw it back in the 70s when they took away the GI bill for us Vietnam era vets.
I hope you don't misunderstand me, I thank you for your service, I just am around all too many who've been there and done that in name only. I welcome the chance to bury the hatchet and explain where I'm coming from via PM if you're interested FRiend.
Cheers,
CSG
Looks like the same 'home' where a lot of boomers have placed their babies.
Ain't abortion wonderful?
You mean, you were robbed, and it gives you the right to rob in turn. As for paying for my education, you most certainly did not.
BTW, if this is the attitude of your generation, I am bloody glad I never had any children.
No wonder you're so eager to rob me and mine. For some reason socialists usually turn out to be people who didn't provide properly for themselves. The guy who scrimps and saves isn't usually the one demanding that the government redistribute his savings.
And to think I busted my a$$ day and night to keep you free. Go figure.
Keep me free? Apparently, you did it with the expectation of robbing me. What's so noble about that? The noble guy keeps me free and then doesn't rob me. At least, that's my idea of noble, comrade.
Let's compare notes. I'm 49. I've worked 50 to 70 hour weeks since about 1980 when I moved from being an hourly worker to a salaried position. In the past 5 years my tax burden (FIT, SIT, FICA/MEDICAID) has ranged from $50,000 to $90,0000 annually. In spite of being raped by taxation, I've still paid off my primary residence free and clear. I used my 2005 income tax refunds to purchase another 2000 sq ft house as income property in February this year. My only other debt is two 4X4 vehicles to navigate the harsh winter weather in Idaho. Those will be paid off in 2 years. I'm still supporting two adult children.
I can't believe all the whining in this thread. I'm shouldering the burden of the New Deal, LBJ's Great Society and a new generation of underachievers and illegal immigrants. The damn socialist policies keep stealing more money. Trying to be a responsible individual that is prepared for retirement is difficult when you have to support multiple generations of slackers at the same time.
The real pain is going to start about 2016 when the boomers who were forced into defined contribution retirement plans are required by law to start taking distributions so the government can tax the retirement money. The forced distributions are going to clobber the stock and bond markets. The switch from lifelong careers that culminated in fully funded, defined benefits pensions to defined contribution plans with partial employer subsidy occurred just as I entered the workforce in 1976. I'm on the leading of the boomers who were left entirely to their own devices to find a means of funding retirement. The GenX crowd arrives just past that leading edge and is faced with the same problem.
I graduated from high school in 1973 and UCSD in 1976. I've been employed full time since June 1976 (including a year of graduate school through June 1977).
Safe and sound IMHO.
For me I will tell one story of what happened "out there". I was in TAC with an F4 unit somewhere in Europe during an alert. We were deployed from our regular location. Quck turnaround on a Jet engine pull. Witnessed first hand a GE-79J fall onto an A1C. (Hoist mount broke) Not a hope surviving that. I knew her personally. That sight still haunts my memories. :-(
Ours has always been a military family, on both my husband and my side...my great grandfather served with the Army Cavalry at Ft Yates, ND...he was a horse soldier...his son, my grandfather, fought in WW1...his son, my dad, fought in WW11...my hubbys dad landed on Normandy, watched his fellow army buddies blown to bits, while he somehow survived, my hubbys uncle was in the navy in the Pacific during WW11, another uncle served in Korea...and my own hubby served in the army for 28yrs...all good proud men, who served in the military, and risked their lives, and believed that they were defending Freedom and America...
To take away from these men, what they might have been promised, would make all of them roll over in their graves...
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