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Is Intelligent Design a Bad Scientific Theory or a Non-Scientific Theory?
Tech Central Station ^ | 11/10/2005 | Uriah Kriegel

Posted on 11/10/2005 4:43:24 AM PST by Nicholas Conradin

In an election in Pennsylvania this week, voters tossed out eight members of the Pittsburgh school board who wanted Intelligent Design theory to be taught alongside evolution in school. But should Intelligent Design -- the theory that living organisms were created at least in part by an intelligent designer, not by a blind process of evolution by natural selection -- be taught in public schools? In one way, the answer to this question is simple: if it's a scientific theory, it should; if it's not, it shouldn't (on pain of flaunting the Establishment Clause). The question, however, is whether Intelligent Design (ID) is a scientific theory.

Opponents dismiss ID's scientific credentials, claiming that the theory is too implausible to qualify as scientific. But this reasoning is fallacious: a bad scientific theory is still a scientific theory, just as a bad car is still a car. There may be pedagogical reasons to avoid teaching bad scientific theories in our public schools, but there are no legal ones. The Constitution contains no interdiction on teaching bad theories, or for that matter demonstrably false ones. As long as theory is science and not religion, there is no legal barrier to teaching it.

To make their case, opponents of teaching ID must show not just that the theory is bad, but that it's not science. This raises a much more complicated question: What is science? What distinguishes genuinely scientific theories from non-scientific ones?

In one form or another, the question has bothered scientists and philosophers for centuries. But it was given an explicit formulation only in the 1920s, by Karl Popper, the most important 20th century philosopher of science. Popper called it "the problem of demarcation," because it asked how to demarcate scientific research and distinguish it from other modes of thought (respectable though they may be in their own right).

One thing Popper emphasized was that a theory's status as scientific doesn't depend on its plausibility. The great majority of scientific theories turn out to be false, including such works of genius as Newton's mechanics. Conversely, the story of Adam and Eve may well be pure truth, but if it is, it's not scientific truth, but some other kind of truth.

So what is the mark of genuine science? To attack this question, Popper examined several theories he thought were inherently unscientific but had a vague allure of science about them. His favorites were Marx's theory of history and Freud's theory of human behavior. Both attempted to describe the world without appeal to super-natural phenomena, but yet seem fundamentally different from, say, the theory of relativity or the gene theory.

What Popper noticed was that, in both cases, there was no way to prove to proponents of the theory that they were wrong. Suppose Jim's parents moved around a lot when Jim was a child. If Jim also moves around a lot as an adult, the Freudian explains that this was predictable given the patterns of behavior Jim grew up with. If Jim never moves, the Freudian explains -- with equal confidence -- that this was predictable as a reaction to Jim's unpleasant experiences of a rootless childhood. Either way the Freudian has a ready-made answer and cannot be refuted. Likewise, however much history seemed to diverge from Marx's model, Marxists would always introduce new modifications and roundabout excuses for their theory, never allowing it to be proven false.

Popper concluded that the mark of true science was falsifiability: a theory is genuinely scientific only if it's possible in principle to refute it. This may sound paradoxical, since science is about seeking truth, not falsehood. But Popper showed that it was precisely the willingness to be proven false, the critical mindset of being open to the possibility that you're wrong, that makes for progress toward truth.

What scientists do in designing experiments that test their theories is create conditions under which their theory might be proven false. When a theory passes a sufficient number of such tests, the scientific community starts taking it seriously, and ultimately as plausible.

When Einstein came up with the theory of relativity, the first thing he did was to make a concrete prediction: he predicted that a certain planet must exist in such-and-such a place even though it had never been observed before. If it turned out that the planet did not exist, his theory would be refuted. In 1919, 14 years after the advent of Special Relativity, the planet was discovered exactly where he said. The theory survived the test. But the possibility of failing a test -- the willingness to put the theory up for refutation -- was what made it a scientific theory in the first place.

To win in the game of science, a theory must be submitted to many tests and survive all of them without being falsified. But to be even allowed into the game, the theory must be falsifiable in principle: there must be a conceivable experiment that would prove it false.

If we examine ID in this light, it becomes pretty clear that the theory isn't scientific. It is impossible to refute ID, because if an animal shows one characteristic, IDers can explain that the intelligent designer made it this way, and if the animal shows the opposite characteristic, IDers can explain with equal confidence that the designer made it that way. For that matter, it is fully consistent with ID that the supreme intelligence designed the world to evolve according to Darwin's laws of natural selection. Given this, there is no conceivable experiment that can prove ID false.

It is sometimes complained that IDers resemble the Marxist historians who always found a way to modify and reframe their theory so it evades any possible falsification, never offering an experimental procedure by which ID could in principle be falsified. To my mind, this complaint is warranted indeed. But the primary problem is not with the intellectual honesty of IDers, but with the nature of their theory. The theory simply cannot be fashioned to make any potentially falsified predictions, and therefore cannot earn entry into the game of science.

None of this suggests that ID is in fact false. For all I've said, it may well be pure truth. But if it is, it wouldn't be scientific truth, because it isn't scientific at all. As such, we shouldn't allow it into our science classrooms. At least that's what the Constitution says.

The writer teaches philosophy at the University of Arizona.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crevolist; evilution; evolution; goddoodit; id; idiocy; ignoranceisstrength; monkeygod; popper; science; theory
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To: xzins

The numbers of folks doing these things, compared with the size of the general population, is relatively small, and the effects can be "absorbed" on that scale (though on the personal scale it still leads to lack of trust and ostracization from the social group). No society would survive if such were taking place on a large scale, which is why societies have codes (most not Divinely inspired) to discourage such actions.


301 posted on 11/10/2005 4:35:10 PM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: xzins
If there is no God, then there is no morality.

So you say. I'm glad that your fear of divine punishment is keeping your murderous impulses in check.

Ever wonder why atheistic socialism had no problem murdering millions?

Ever wonder why down through the ages men have had no problems justifying mass-murder in the name of religion? Did you ever hear of the inquisition? Or the slave-trade? (slavery being codified in the Bible of course)

302 posted on 11/10/2005 4:36:12 PM PST by Thatcherite (Feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: P-Marlowe

Or is there a possibility that what God stated in Exodus Chapter 20 is the God's honest truth?

Is Exodus Chapter 21 God's honest truth?

303 posted on 11/10/2005 4:37:10 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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To: Coyoteman

Based on this Coyoteman is a retrograde moron able to copy big words from a dictionary; his faulty logic however is nothing more than secular anti-christ jingoistic social darwinism,...in other words BS!


304 posted on 11/10/2005 4:37:20 PM PST by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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To: Sofa King
once again, this whole conversation has been in regard to Ichy's post on classifying hominid skulls and obviously there is difficulty in doing so, or there would be no issue. We are not talking about modern chimps and humans.

To somehow say those skulls were ape,human, or somewhere in between is probably not possible given only the skull and no supporting skeleton or other info.

JM
305 posted on 11/10/2005 4:37:44 PM PST by JohnnyM
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To: xzins

"Gott mit uns" (God with us) was the motto of the Germany army in WWII.


306 posted on 11/10/2005 4:38:26 PM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: xzins
Ever wonder why atheistic socialism had no problem murdering millions?

Probably for the same reason devout religious folk in Spain had no problem torturing "confessions" out of helpless women by burning, impaling, stretching on the rack, breaking on the wheel, and genital mutilation -- the human race has some serious issues it needs to confront.

307 posted on 11/10/2005 4:38:53 PM PST by RogueIsland
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To: Nicholas Conradin

What's the difference if they call ID science or not? I call it truth.

The evolution theory has never been proved, so that just might be junk science.


308 posted on 11/10/2005 4:39:25 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: JohnnyM

I'll agree with you there.


309 posted on 11/10/2005 4:40:03 PM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Nicholas Conradin

We always called it "Divine Design" .
It is not scientific theory, but a theological, metaphysical concept.


310 posted on 11/10/2005 4:40:08 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY and her HINO want to take over your country. STOP THEM NOW!)
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To: Junior; Thatcherite; P-Marlowe; Buggman; blue-duncan
What I find most troubling is that creationists believe everyone would act depraved if it weren't for God keeping us in check

Actually, I do believe God is preventing evil from becoming as bad as it could. Some day that restraining hand will be lifted and we (or our descendants) will get to see the full power of the dark side....in ourselves and also from the dark spiritual powers and principalities who also exist.

Too much information....right? :>)

311 posted on 11/10/2005 4:40:49 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: RogueIsland; Junior; xzins

Yet Junior just said mankind is not born depraved. Must be a bad air day.


312 posted on 11/10/2005 4:40:49 PM PST by zeeba neighba (no crocs!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Ok, you can stop pinging me on this. I said I was wrong about Genesis 1 and 2 as far as the stone tablets were concerned.


313 posted on 11/10/2005 4:41:01 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Junior; ml1954; MindBender26; CarolinaGuitarman; blue-duncan; xzins
Attributing such rules to the Almighty might make them more palatable to those unable or unwilling to think rationally (which, unfortunately, is the great majority of the species), but that does not necessarily make them Divinely inspired.

I appreciate your skepticism. Obviously you are not a believer and obviously you make no claim to be a follower of Jesus. I have no problem with atheists and agnostics who profess a disbelief in the authority of Scripture. My problem is with those who claim to be followers of Jesus, yet they do not believe his words.

I have a problem with those who profess to be Christians, yet they publicly profess to disbelieve the Word of God and call God a liar.

314 posted on 11/10/2005 4:41:38 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: JohnnyM
We are not talking about modern chimps and humans.

What are we talking about then? What are these skulls that aren't modern chimps or humans, according to you? Why do we never find any ancient chimps or humans? Just these skulls that look a bit different from either...

315 posted on 11/10/2005 4:42:06 PM PST by Thatcherite (Feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: P-Marlowe
If there is no factual basis for the Creation story in Genesis, then that would make God a liar ...

Only if you assume God wrote Exodus. You are making assumptions and then drawing conclusion on those assumptions. GIGO.

316 posted on 11/10/2005 4:42:14 PM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: P-Marlowe
I have a problem with those who profess to be Christians, yet they publicly profess to disbelieve the Word of God and call God a liar.

They love the best seats in the synagogue, and the praise of their fellow man. so sayeth the Lord.

317 posted on 11/10/2005 4:44:17 PM PST by zeeba neighba (no crocs!)
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To: zeeba neighba

We invite your attention to post 304 on this thread.


318 posted on 11/10/2005 4:47:49 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: blue-duncan
The existentialist Jean-Paul Sartre says that "If God is dead, everything is permitted."

Well, if Sartre said it, then I suppose Hell is other people too. Having lived in apartments before, I can at least confirm that Hell is noisy neighbors.

319 posted on 11/10/2005 4:48:54 PM PST by RogueIsland
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To: MHalblaub
first error...second error...third error

Thanks.

320 posted on 11/10/2005 4:49:19 PM PST by Tom Bombadil
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