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Wal-Mart faces boycott for 'banning' Christmas
WorldNetDaily ^ | Nov. 10, 2005 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 11/10/2005 1:48:18 AM PST by News Hunter

A Catholic advocacy group has launched a national boycott against Wal-Mart, claiming the world's No. 1 retailer has in effect "banned" Christmas, while promoting other seasonal holidays such as Hanukkah and Kwanzaa.

But Wal-Mart tells WorldNetDaily it has "absolutely not" banned Christmas, but is just "trying to serve all our customers for the holiday season."

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ban; bowdowntowallysworld; boycott; catholic; christmas; kneejerks; kwanzaa; storyiswrong; unionthugs; walmart; walmartisgreat
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To: flashbunny

I'm too old and tired for bluster and upset. Who'd have ever thought logic would become the tool of the lazy.


221 posted on 11/10/2005 1:39:22 PM PST by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: twntaipan

"In other words, they are attempting to appease everyone--but in the game of political correctness"

Political correctness is doing what you otherwise wouldn't do in order to appease an 'offended' group.

Walmart decided to switch to "holiday" in order to attract the largest possible audience nationwide with their generic promotion.

In other words, they weren't "politically correct" in your favor in worrying about offending people like you who think they have to use 'christmas' instead of holidays.

Like it or not, you are the one who is trying to enforce your own brand of PC here. Walmart is doing what they want to best market their products, and you, of the offended class, are upset they didn't kowtow to your whims.

It's political correctness, just with a different side being the "correct" side. Deal with it.


222 posted on 11/10/2005 1:44:13 PM PST by flashbunny (Tag line down for routine maintenance.)
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To: discostu
Thanks for a substantive reply.

PC is like a steady drip...it just slowly erodes away at traditional, usually Christian, expressions, until they are somehow gone.

Just go to Target or Costco and see how many things have replaced Christmas with the generic phrase "holiday". In their case it is intentional.

I fear Walmart is beginning down the same path.

As a stock holder, I feel responsible to point out that their current web-marketing will alienate some of their core demographic and hurt sales.

223 posted on 11/10/2005 1:45:07 PM PST by twntaipan (Does Walmart pander to the politically correct?)
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More evidence that Walmart is evil:
They sold halloween decorations!

I saw them putting out Christmas decorations...
on halloween day!... blasphemers.
224 posted on 11/10/2005 1:46:36 PM PST by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: flashbunny
Walmart decided to switch to "holiday" in order to attract the largest possible audience nationwide with their generic promotion.

But the largest single demographic for Walmart is Southern and rural.

Why is it good marketing to possibly alienate that demographic?

PC is also doing what you otherwise wouldn't do in order not to offend another group.

The PC crowd has no problems at all offending Christians--they revel in it.

225 posted on 11/10/2005 1:48:41 PM PST by twntaipan (Does Walmart pander to the politically correct?)
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To: twntaipan
As you've been told many times now, this has nothing to do with PC. Who goes shopping online and enters "Christmas" into a search engine? It's a completely artificial construct by somebody looking to find fault. LOOKING to find offense at any perceived slight or use of the wrong word is the EPITOMY of PC, you just want your kind of PC.

Look around the site. There is Christmas stuff everywhere.
226 posted on 11/10/2005 1:51:11 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: twntaipan

But that doesn't necessarily mean this is PC. On the other hand one must remember that Christmas isn't the only holiday that generate revenue in this time period, and as long as everybody's money is still green retailers will be chasing all of it. I don't think the web design should alienate anyone, I think it's just there and some folks get too touchy.


227 posted on 11/10/2005 1:52:29 PM PST by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: twntaipan

I said nothing about offending non-Cristians and thus I bleieve you are missing my point altogether.

There are various and sundry holidays between now and the 1st of the year, not all are religious nor are all Christian, however the vast majority of people, regardless of belief or non-belief still refer to it as the Christmas season in the same generic way as the term holiday season. My point is though, these are the type people that will type "Christmas" into a search feature as opposed to Kwanza or Ramadan or whatever.


228 posted on 11/10/2005 1:55:52 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Gabz

Granted. Sorry if, in defending my point (or attempting to), I missed yours.


229 posted on 11/10/2005 2:00:21 PM PST by twntaipan (Does Walmart pander to the politically correct?)
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To: discostu

It is probably too early to tell if this is PC. If, on the other hand, Walmart corporate headquarters bans the Salvation Army (like Target did last year), or if they increasingly have shelves with lots of cheery "Holiday Trees" or the like, as Target and Costco do, that PC is running amok at Bentonville.


230 posted on 11/10/2005 2:03:04 PM PST by twntaipan (Does Walmart pander to the politically correct?)
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To: Gabz

yeah....it all makes sense to a certain extent. And the more that we find evidence to the contrary, you would wish whomever is starting this could come up with a better story....


231 posted on 11/10/2005 2:03:38 PM PST by MikefromOhio (There is such a thing as a Knee-Jerk Conservative. FR is full of them.)
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To: CodeToad
Of course it is cheap stuff, but I suppose child and slave labor and deceptive business practices mean nothing to you?

As if it means anything to you and AS if you don't buy things made or built the same way....
232 posted on 11/10/2005 2:04:16 PM PST by MikefromOhio (There is such a thing as a Knee-Jerk Conservative. FR is full of them.)
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To: CodeToad; Darksheare; darkwing104; King Prout; Paul_Denton
Of course it is cheap stuff, but I suppose child and slave labor and deceptive business practices mean nothing to you?

sniff sniff....isn't this out of a certain playbook??
233 posted on 11/10/2005 2:05:02 PM PST by MikefromOhio (There is such a thing as a Knee-Jerk Conservative. FR is full of them.)
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To: MikeinIraq

"sniff sniff....isn't this out of a certain playbook??
"

Sure is...the one where true Americans are against such nonsense just because it provides profit.


234 posted on 11/10/2005 2:07:45 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: twntaipan

It's not too early to tell if this is PC at all. The word "Christmas" is all over the place. I'm sure where the manufacturers are the same the items will be the same, if Target has a "Holiday Tree" and WalMart is buying from the same company they'll have a "Holiday Tree" too, though everything on their website (a smaller selection that the Target site) is a "Christmas Tree".


235 posted on 11/10/2005 2:08:29 PM PST by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: CodeToad
Sure is...the one where true Americans are against such nonsense just because it provides profit.

sure thing noob.....I am SO sure you don't eat Bananas (child labor), wear jeans (child labor, sweatshops), wear sneakers or running shoes (sweatshops). I could go on.....
236 posted on 11/10/2005 2:09:07 PM PST by MikefromOhio (There is such a thing as a Knee-Jerk Conservative. FR is full of them.)
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To: CodeToad

Of course since it's the same stuff at WalMart as anywhere else it's no more likely to be the result of child labor there than anywhere else.


237 posted on 11/10/2005 2:10:08 PM PST by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: CodeToad

"child and slave labor and deceptive business practices mean nothing to you?"

Care to elaborate on the 'slave labor' and 'child labor' please?


238 posted on 11/10/2005 2:12:42 PM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: twntaipan

No apology necessary. We are both looking at this in a different way. Just becaus we disagree, doesn't mean that either of us is right or wrong.


239 posted on 11/10/2005 2:19:32 PM PST by Gabz
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To: News Hunter
I wish the Catholic League wouldn't pick on stupid stuff like this. It has nothing to do with the practice of the FAITH. Wal-Mart is simply saying that it serves more than just Christians at this time of year, so their greetings to their customers, of whose Faith they are not sure, will be a generic one. It won't hurt my feelings; I'd be happy to just be helped by a Wal-Mart employee to find an item for which I'm searching. I don't need for them to validate my own Faith. If they say, "Happy Holidays", I'll just respond with my own, hearty "Merry Christmas"!

Pick your battles wisely, folks. You can buy all the Christmas themed items you could shake a stick at in Wal-Mart. Now if they stopped carrying those items at all, then we might have something about which to complain.

240 posted on 11/10/2005 2:22:38 PM PST by SuziQ
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