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FAR-RIGHT IN GERMANY WANTS FOREIGNERS PUT IN CAMPS AND EXPELLED
deutsche presse via email, no url | 11/9/5

Posted on 11/09/2005 7:02:46 AM PST by NativeNewYorker

Berlin (dpa) - A far-right party in Germany said Wednesday that foreigners living in the country should be put into ``collection camps'' and then expelled if French-style violence breaks out.

The National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD), which last year won 9.2 per cent of the vote in Saxony state and has 12 seats in the regional parliament, called for laws aimed at reducing the population of resident foreigners.

Germany has about 7.3 million foreigners who comprise some 9 per cent of the total population.

``If riots are organised like in France then collection camps and vigilantes must be organised in time to protect life and property,'' said the NPD.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: europe; france; germany; insurgency; intifada; jihad; quagmire; riots; surrender; terrorism; uprising
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To: Palisades
A Muslim would need to specifically state that he is an enemy of the US,

He does that by stating he is a moslem.

rather than simply being part of a religion which has some tenets that can be interpreted as being anti-American.

The moslem scriptures clearly say that they are to fight aginst the unbeliever near to them. Since eventually we would be the unbeliever near to them islam is the enemy of the USA

What if a Muslim said that he is a believing Muslim, but that he is not an enemy of America?

Then he is lying about being a moslem or lying about being an enemy of the US. But since moslems are commanded to lie if they can gain advantage by it, it is almost certain that he is lying about being an enemy of the US.

The moslem political system is so corrupt and evil that it cannot be tolerated. It must be destroyed. This is a national survival issue.

Islam is the enemy.

421 posted on 11/10/2005 5:32:54 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Palisades
me->They are either actively fighting against us or will soon be actively fighting against us.

you->There is no evidence of this.

You've never read the koran have you? Or are you just willfully ignoring the entire history of the moslem political system on this earth?

I can't teach someone who decides to be unteachable. Read and study and you will find that islam is now, and always has been, evil.

Islam is the enemy

422 posted on 11/10/2005 5:36:55 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Stingy Dog

Amen!


423 posted on 11/10/2005 5:37:39 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Matrix33
I wonder if this should be applied to all foreigners in Germany. There are pretty big Polish, Hungarian, Romanian and Serbian communities as well. Are they considered dangerous too?

No. Only the adherents of the religion of peace.

424 posted on 11/10/2005 5:38:12 AM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: Fishrrman
I can't give you the link, but I've read numerous statements from imams, ayatollahs, and "average" Muslims who not only condemn violence but who maintain that it has nothing to do with either the Koranic interpretation of "jihad" or with "holy war."

Let me be clear: I think it does, but, just as many (most?) Christians know very little about the Bible, or what it actually says (for ex., most Christians think the phrase "Money is the root of all evil" is in the Bible, or "Cleanliness is next to godliness."), I think most MODERN Muslims, esp. in the West absolutely do not make the (in my view, correct) interpretations of "jihad" with violence.

It's the same way that Unitarians can insist that Jesus is not divine; or that Jehovah's Witnesses can claim that only they will be saved; or that Christian Scientists reject medicine. These all fall into the category of "Christians," but are as different as night and day.

425 posted on 11/10/2005 5:49:52 AM PST by LS
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To: investigateworld

Which is exactly the case, opposite, in the east, where if you were an Italian American with ties to certain organizations, or a German American, you were investigated (and sometimes held in "camps") by the FBI.


426 posted on 11/10/2005 5:50:56 AM PST by LS
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To: WildHorseCrash

I agree. The camp concept is insane.

Start with foreigners. Then other groups you consider to be a threat (Catholics, the other political parties, etc)

Imagine if Hillary Clinton had the right to put her dissenters into camps?

Anytime a society makes camps a choice, they better consider what would happen if the other side got to do it as well.


427 posted on 11/10/2005 5:55:28 AM PST by whitedog57 (Holland)
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To: bboop
Yes. Germany and France are both loaded with Turks.

I heard a lot of complaining about that when I was in Germany twenty years ago.

I was in Paris on New Years Eve, 1985, and doing the traditional stroll around the Ark of Triumph.

Men walk around and kiss the girls all night. It was pretty harmless.

There were many groups of 100 or more Turks at the Ark. It really amazed me.

I bet that there were 20,000 men there, and about 1/4 of them were Turks.
428 posted on 11/10/2005 5:57:25 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: AmericanDave
I think the citizenship oath is like my oath to serve in the armed forces; including to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

I can't remember if I made the point in this thread or another one but since islam commands its adherents to lie if they can gain advantage from it you cannot trust a moslem even if he has taken an oath.

429 posted on 11/10/2005 6:02:39 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: LS
most Christians think the phrase "Money is the root of all evil" is in the Bible, or "Cleanliness is next to godliness."),

The first is: "the love of money is the root of all evil" (1Tm:6:10).

The second is not. If it were it would be rather "Humility is next to godliness."

430 posted on 11/10/2005 6:03:44 AM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: Palisades

Ok, the 18th century, or the 1700's a.d. was a long time after Christ, how many years after Mohhamad? Anyway it is a modern interpretation or possibly corruption of Islam, yes?


431 posted on 11/10/2005 6:04:18 AM PST by AmericanDave (God bless .......and MORE COWBELL)
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To: Palisades

Yes it's easy to shoot those who are shooting at you, a good simple war we can win. The problem is when the enemy doesn't stand and fight but plants bombs by the road side; bombs that are often hidden, and since no locals come forward to warn us of the bombs placement, we lose good men.

The locals don't have to fight, but they DO have to have the courage to support us with information, while our troops support them. If they don't have that courage, we may lose and so will they.


432 posted on 11/10/2005 6:09:56 AM PST by AmericanDave (God bless .......and MORE COWBELL)
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To: Alexander Rubin
You can't punish the whole group because of it. Just weed out the bad apples, and bury them.

so we weed out the bad apples and kill them. In one year there will be an equal or greater number of bad apples that we will have to weed out and kill. A year after that there will be more, and so on and so forth. Why? Why is there a never ending chain of bad moslme apples? Because islam commands them to be that way.

If the generation alive today is made totally peaceful then their children will still be terrorists. You can't read the koran and decide to follow it without eventually becomming the taliban. The rules of islam are laid out pretty clearly in th ekoran. Fight against unbelievers and subdue them.

It's truly unfortunate but the moslem people are just as much victims of islam as the people they behead. They are chained into a belief system that commands that they kill us or die trying.

So how do we convert them and trust them? We share the gospel of Jesus Christ and hope they respond. But if they don't should we allow them to continue killing, raping and dragging people into hell with them? I think not.

As long as islam is alive it will be a threat to our existence. Sad, but true. The only way to eradicate islam is to eradicate it's followers. Islam is a cancer that must be cut out completely or it will kill us.

433 posted on 11/10/2005 6:10:16 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

" since islam commands its adherents to lie if they can gain advantage from it"

If true, this is a very disturbing idea. But wait! They consider themselves descendants of Abraham, and followers of the God of Abraham don't they? Then are not the 10 commandments part of their religion? Where do they place the "Old Testament"? I know the Jews like us, respect the 10 commandments.


434 posted on 11/10/2005 6:20:55 AM PST by AmericanDave (God bless .......and MORE COWBELL)
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To: AmericanDave

No, I haven't forgotten the IRA. But they did not employ homicide bombers as a matter of course. When their bombs blew innocent people to bits, the perpetrators were well away from the carnage.They had NO interest in dying with their victims.
The homicide bomber is strictly a modern Palestinian/Muslim terrorist invention. I expect they'll continue to employ them as long as they have a steady supply of brainwashed fools eager to find Paradise with the aid of Semtex.


435 posted on 11/10/2005 6:25:21 AM PST by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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To: MarkL
Good Morning MarkL.

Sorry I am just getting back to you.

You are absolutely right.

They are no different in their believes and philosophy as the N.S.D.A.P of Hitlers time.
436 posted on 11/10/2005 6:32:20 AM PST by Mrs.Nooseman (Tony Snow and Mark Levin fan)
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To: AmericanDave
Ok, the 18th century, or the 1700's a.d. was a long time after Christ, how many years after Mohhamad?

About 1100 years, IIRC.

Anyway it is a modern interpretation or possibly corruption of Islam, yes?

In a lot of ways, Wahhabism is to Islams sort of like Calvinism is to Christianity. I'm not saying Calvinists are murderous fanatics, mind you, but Wahhabis strip their faith down to what they consider it to be its logical essence, bereft of all adornment, much in the same way as Calvinists do.

Of course, Calvinism helped create the US, while Wahhabism is responsible for the ideology of Osama Bin Laden, so I certainly do not want to take this analogy too far.

If you look at the mosques built by Wahhabis, they look like parking garages, as opposed to the ornate, architectually advanced mosques built by the Ottomans and Moors. I think you can tell a lot about a religious group based on what kind of temples they build.

437 posted on 11/10/2005 6:33:08 AM PST by Palisades (Cthulhu in 2008! Why settle for the lesser evil?)
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To: RobbyS

Morning Robby.

Sorry I am just now getting back to you.

Now that is a scary thought,but you are correct, that it only takes 5% of votes to get them into the Bundestag.

At the time I left Germany ,it was unthinkable that the Green Party would ever get into the Bundestag and I would advice Germans with caution to not make this mistake with the NPD.


438 posted on 11/10/2005 6:40:14 AM PST by Mrs.Nooseman (Tony Snow and Mark Levin fan)
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To: A. Pole

Absolutely. But my point is that most Christians do not know that.


439 posted on 11/10/2005 6:50:40 AM PST by LS
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To: AmericanDave
If true, this is a very disturbing idea.

Be disturbed. Not only is it true according to their scripturees but it's been amply demonstrated throughout their history. Moslems have no honor. They do not honor treaties or oaths with non-moslems. They cannot be trusted.

But wait! They consider themselves descendants of Abraham, and followers of the God of Abraham don't they?

Yes. Then are not the 10 commandments part of their religion? Where do they place the "Old Testament"?

The OT falls somehwere below the koran and the hadith (which happen to contradict large portions of the OT). It also falls below the writings of the current leading imams. They treat it like so much toilet paper. The moslems see the Christian bible as corrupted and not true to the original word given by God. In other words they believe that God wasn't strong enough to defend his own word from being corrupted.

Th NT is also seen as corrupted an may not even be recognized as scripture. I know that the koran contradicts almost all of it. But then of course the moslems missed the clearly stated fact that Jesus is the Son of God.

I know the Jews like us, respect the 10 commandments.

Yep. The OT is the Jewish scriptures.

440 posted on 11/10/2005 6:56:07 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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