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To: jess35
Republicans deserve to get their butts kicked when they embrace garbage like ID as "science".

LOL! I love how scientific-illiterates can call ID "garbage," when there are Ph.D-level working scientists who *do* consider it science.

Minnich vs Harvey: “The witness is smarter than the lawyer”

99 posted on 11/09/2005 7:52:52 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory. Lots of links on my homepage...)
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101 posted on 11/09/2005 7:55:42 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
LOL! I love how scientific-illiterates can call ID "garbage," when there are Ph.D-level working scientists who *do* consider it science.

That wouldn't include Michael Behe, who says that if you want to consider ID science, you have to expand the definition of science to include things like astrology.

And better not try the 'scientific illiterate' schtick on me, laddie. BTW, I'd don't think you've ever told us where you got your Ph.D..

102 posted on 11/09/2005 7:56:59 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (If you love peace, prepare for war. If you hate violence, own a gun.)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
when there are Ph.D-level working scientists who *do* consider it science.

No more than 5-10.

111 posted on 11/09/2005 8:17:46 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
From the lengthy (and unintentionally hilarious) link you provided:

Harvey started off with an admittedly tough question for Minnich: “are there objective, quantitative measures for design?” This is a hard question for Minnich to answer because Minnich’s arguments were analogical. But that doesn’t mean the evidence for ID couldn’t be there, and Minnich replied that the argument is more intuitive than quantitative. Other ID proponents (like Dembski) might make more quantitative arguments, but Minnich’s arguments are more analogical in nature.

To paraphrase Minnich -- "I don't have any evidence for ID, and I don't know of any methodology for locating any evidence for ID. But that doesn't mean the evidence for ID couldn't be there. Somewhere. Maybe Dembski has some."

116 posted on 11/09/2005 8:23:16 AM PST by atlaw
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Please inform us as to what the Theory of Intelligent Design is, what that theory can be used to predict, and how it is testable and falsifiable.

Then I'll consider it science, along with 99% of the rest of the scientific community.


117 posted on 11/09/2005 8:30:03 AM PST by Quick1
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
LOL! I love how scientific-illiterates can call ID "garbage,"

It *is* garbage, and you sort of "forgot" to mention the vast numbers (an overwhelming majority) of very *non*illiterate scientists who agree on that point.

Why would you want to be grossly dishonest like that?

Please respond.

when there are Ph.D-level working scientists who *do* consider it science.

Yeah, about ten at the very most (out of millions of working scientists), who are raking in the cash selling their mass-market books on the subject to the AECreationists hungry for some sort of "validation". Heck, I've been tempted to do the same myself, except *I* have too many ethics.

Did you have some sort of actual point to make?

154 posted on 11/09/2005 10:06:28 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
LOL! I love how scientific-illiterates can call ID "garbage," when there are Ph.D-level working scientists who *do* consider it science.

Scientific illiterates? On what do you base that misrepresentation?

176 posted on 11/09/2005 10:46:59 AM PST by jess35
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
There were Ph.D's in Nazi Germany who preached eugenics, as well. Come to think of it, William Pierce had a Ph.D in physics.
253 posted on 11/10/2005 11:04:55 PM PST by gopgen
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