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Problems in 2005 Election already evident (Seattle corruption)
Evergreen Freedom Foundation ^ | 11/08/2005 | Booker T. Stallworth

Posted on 11/08/2005 2:29:45 PM PST by sionnsar

OLYMPIA—Less than four hours after the polls opened today, the Evergreen Freedom Foundation (EFF) identified several problems in the 2005 general election.

“We still see a basic disregard for the law and a lack of accountability by election officials,” said Jonathan Bechtle, director of EFF’s Voter Integrity Project.

Among the problems Bechtle identified:

“The one consistency we’ve seen is a lack of leadership on the part of election officials,” said Bechtle. “They blame all the problems on the process, the voter, or unwieldy laws. Secretary of State Reed and other officials are quick to assure the public that all is well; but refuse to take the necessary steps to make sure that’s true.”

Bechtle warned that the problems identified by EFF today are just the “tip of the iceberg.”

“Additional errors resulting from these problems will surface in the coming weeks of tabulation and certification,” Bechtle said. “The day after the primary election, Secretary Reed announced that no major problems had occurred. As in the 2004 election, however, the problems quickly became evident later in the process.”

EFF encourages concerned citizens to contact their local county auditor or political party for information on how to observe the tabulation process. More information is available at EFF’s Election Observer Resource Center (www.effwa.org/vip).

“Since election officials seem more inclined to gloss over and ignore the issues, citizen observers are crucial,” said Bechtle. “They must fill the leadership gap in cleaning up our election system.”

The Evergreen Freedom Foundation’s Voter Integrity Project has been monitoring election practices and reform efforts since the 2004 election debacle, and has released a number of reports on how to fix the system. The project’s director, Jonathan Bechtle, will be available throughout Election Day for comment.


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To: wyattearp
Actually, the complaints about the voting process by the EFF are actually GOOD. Read them. What they are proposing in the brief header posted would actually REDUCE voter fraud. Things like not forwarding ballots - since they get forwarded to union halls where they are filled out by some flunky/stooge - is an absolute must.

I have no idea why this group is actually protesting the way the votes in King County are going to be counted since it works so well for the criminals right now.

21 posted on 11/08/2005 3:24:04 PM PST by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: Vicki
By the way, Pierce County forwarded my husband's and my ballot to our new address. So this is illegal?

Yes, it is. There is supposed to be a huge stamp on the envelope that reads "DO NOT FORWARD, FORWARDING ADDRESS REQUESTED". An absentee ballot is supposed to be sent to the address of the voter, and absolutely nowhere else. If the voter has moved, the ballot is supposed to be returned to the elections department with the new address of the voter (if available).

This lets the elections department know that the voter should no longer be registered to vote in that district/precinct (assuming that the voter has actually moved out of that district/precinct). Forwarding the ballot allows the voter to vote in a precinct where they are not living, and should no longer be registered. It also makes it so that the elections department has no knowledge that the voter has moved.

22 posted on 11/08/2005 3:24:23 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: bpjam
I have no idea why this group is actually protesting the way the votes in King County are going to be counted since it works so well for the criminals right now.

Um... The Evergreen Freedom Foundation is a very conservative, privately funded organization whose stated purpose is to root out fraud and waste in government. They have lead a lot of battles against voting fraud in Washington State, they have taken on the teachers unions, the Attorney General's office, etc. EFF are the good guys. I know some of the people that work there. They're the good guys.

23 posted on 11/08/2005 3:30:27 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: timydnuc
You have so many Kalifornia infiltrators up there that the fight has to be taken to King County.

You've got that right. The King County GOP has a long range plan that was started in 2002 to fix the elections. They know the difficulty in the battle and they almost won it in 2004 (with Dino Rossi). This year the focus is on ousting our corrupt county executive and his crony elections officer. To be honest, I don't think we will win it this year (even though David Irons is an awesome candidate). But the momentum is growing and it is likely that we will have a ballot measure next year to elect the county elections officer (a measure proposed by David Irons). If the King County GOP keeps its act together, we may see a drastic shift in Washington politics and elections in 10 years.

But it bears repeating, the people in Washington are slightly left leaning. I doubt the GOP will be able to change that for a long time, if ever. That doesn't mean that we need the far left as representation. This is why the elections in 2004 were so close for Christine Gregoire. Even the moderate left knew that she was a fruitcake (her main accomplishments in life have been wasting millions of Washington dollars and taxing everything under the sun). If the elections departments can be fixed, the 2004 election of radical leftists may not occur again and that would be a huge gain for conservatives in Washington.

24 posted on 11/08/2005 3:41:22 PM PST by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.-Adm H Rickover)
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To: sionnsar
LOL! Did you know that the Farsi word "barf" means "snow"?

Did you mean snow job?

25 posted on 11/08/2005 3:41:44 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: wyattearp
I think that absentee voting should be outlawed. No exceptions. If somebody doesn't consider voting to be important enough to be in town on that day and go to the polls, then the citizens of this state don't want their stinking vote anyways.

The people that you would hurt the most by banning absentee ballots would probably be military members. I know that I was often underwater (being a submariner) during an election. I also know that I have spent years away from my home state (initially Montana) due to military orders. Without absentee ballots my vote never would have counted. Of course it didn't count anyways, since elections departments routinely foul up absentee ballots and even if they get everything correct, they don't count them unless the race is close.

26 posted on 11/08/2005 3:46:54 PM PST by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.-Adm H Rickover)
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To: sionnsar
I will crosslink to this:

-The Vote Fraud Archives--

27 posted on 11/08/2005 4:14:28 PM PST by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)™...)
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To: burzum
The people that you would hurt the most by banning absentee ballots would probably be military members.

Oops. I hate it when I do that. The military are the only people that have a valid reason to be away from their polling place on voting day.

28 posted on 11/08/2005 4:19:12 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: sionnsar

So you're telling me that if I lived in the Seattle area and I wanted to go to my Polling place to cast my vote in
whatever election is going on today . That I would be out of luck. If I don't "Vote by Mail", I don't get to vote.??

Is Washington State still in the Union.?


29 posted on 11/08/2005 4:26:42 PM PST by Pompah
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To: sionnsar

It's gonna be REAL close. Sims needs every dead, illegal, and duplicate vote he can get to knock off David Irons.


30 posted on 11/08/2005 5:12:38 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: sionnsar

31 posted on 11/08/2005 5:17:22 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: sionnsar
Bookmarked. Again.

Washington (King County) vote fraud.

Again.

No action by national RINO party -> Again.
32 posted on 11/08/2005 5:20:01 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: backhoe

Did you get all of the "vote fraud" bookmarked articles and threads under my screen id?

Look for "Fraud" + XX (= State) +
+ Year


33 posted on 11/08/2005 5:22:09 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Look for "Fraud" + XX (= State) + + Year

Thanks- looking now.

34 posted on 11/09/2005 1:08:12 AM PST by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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To: wyattearp

Wyatt, Sorry. You are absolutely correct. I scanned the name and thought "Electronic Freedom Foundation" which also has people in Seattle. Evergreen is an EFF that I can totally get behind. They are doing the Lords work in fighting the democratic mafia in King County.


35 posted on 11/09/2005 10:45:57 AM PST by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: backhoe

36 posted on 11/09/2005 10:49:27 AM PST by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's Code and found a terrorist message)
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To: sionnsar


For reference:

Vote Early, Vote Often
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1518679/posts


37 posted on 11/09/2005 10:51:41 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: sionnsar

That wouldn't work well with Christmas Carols.


38 posted on 11/09/2005 10:53:01 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: sionnsar

So how do we get Congress to step in????



Article XV.

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


39 posted on 11/09/2005 10:58:17 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: sionnsar
FYI: The procedure for clearing deceased persons from the voter rolls is that a person related by blood has to fill out the form. Even a poll judge who knows the family cannot request that the deceased person be removed. I once had a grieving widow in tears at the polling place because she kept seeing his name above hers in the poll book. I offered her the form, we filled it out, and I hope that was the end of her suffering.

Perhaps state law should be amended to allow the coroner/medical examiner or the attending physician at time of death to report the matter to the elections department. Certainly the publication of a death certificate should trigger the removal.

If you agree, make this suggestion to your representatives and senators, or even to your loval ME's office. That ought to stir things up...

40 posted on 11/09/2005 7:49:17 PM PST by LibreOuMort ("...But as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry)
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