Posted on 11/08/2005 2:18:45 AM PST by JoeGar
I have a SIGARMS P239 .357 SIG for concealed carry and inside-the-home defense, but I feel I need a good rifle for neighborhood defense outside -- just in case somebody wants to torch some cars. I'd love an M1 Garand -- just to hear the ka-ching when the clip ejects -- but it's too expensive. The Ruger Mini Thirty looks interesting. What are your suggestions?
The very next section 9.43, provides for protection of other people's property.
I'm happy with my Colt AR-15 for outdoors, ammo is plentiful and cheap. Bought it in celebration of becoming an ex-Kalifornian.
For the unfortunate soul who manages the end up inside of the house, the 870 wingmaster is the weapon of choice.
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He obviously has a very limited viewpoint. He thinks the way things are, or at least he thinks they are, in his location is the way they are everywhere. We've clearly shown him it's not true with regards to lawful use of lethal force, and I'm sure you could show him the statute law showing it's not true about the repo business either.
I'll bet he doesn't break into houses to collect debts either. That's what making off with a vehicle without the registered owners permission is equivalent to doing.
BTW, at least in Texas, the loan company keeps the original title to a vehicle until it's paid off, at which point the state issues a new "clear" title to the owner. So it's sort of "joint custody" until then. Been there, done that, at least 7 times now. Plus wo still in the "joint custody" state (both 03 Mazda 6s, one my wifes, the other my daughters).
Hey, thanks for the link. I just found a good tagline on it to steal.
The guy has been banned. What's he gonna do? LOL.
As far as I know, repossessors give advance prior notice before repoing a car. Additionally, the UCC allows self help to recover collateral. Are there abuses? Of course.
I was being sarcastic, to the tune of "why limit yourself to short-range weaponry".
You don't need to pay $1200 to get a full caliber rifle. You can get a Savage Arms or Remington 30-06 bolt action new for $550 or so, or used in good condition for $300. With a scoped included, if you want one.
I knew that.
Or a nicely refinished Yugoslav Mauser in 8mm (still plenty of surplus ammo around) for around $250 or so.
I had it checked anyway and it was perfect. The bore looked like new and the rest of the rifle was excellent.
I have fired maybe 200 rounds of surplus corrosive ammo and it is a good shooter. Consistently groups into 2 inches at 60 yards. My eyes are not what they once were and that is about as good as I can shoot now without a scope.
Functions flawlessly which is what I expected. The wood looks pretty bad, welll like new but odd, almost looks like pine but probably some Yugo wood as they all look the same and I have never heard of a problem with the stocks.
I remember a kid being shot for swimming in a man's swimming pool -- D.C or around there.
The shooter was a vocal gun control advocate who shot with a handgun "borrowed" from his FBI son. Don't recall he received any punishment.
Or maybe the kid was shot at -- don't remember.
He was a prominent Black man in DC which pretty much meant he had a "get out of jail free" card. He was not prosecuted.
I saw part of a TV program the other day about repossessors. One man could make a key within about 1.5 minutes. Showed several repossessions of big equipment at night and in a hurry before they were discovered.
Apparently they had to find the equipment in order to repossess. Was it probable the equipment was hard to find because notice was given, or because they just did not intend to pay ?
Now I remember. Yes, he was more equal than others.
A lot depends on the range you are looking at. If you are out in the boonies, the M1-A (civillian M-14) is good to 700+ yards, as far (or farther) than most can shoot). In town, it is usually under 75 yards to the next building, and the mini is more than adequate with an effective range in .223 of 300 yards.
Most East bloc rifles, such as the SKS and AK variants will also handle that range envelope and may be ideal for a limited budget.
Fancy tackdrivers are nice, but you want reliability and something which will consistently hit inside a 6 inch circle at 100 yards (smaller is even better).
Always keep in mind that there is something on the other side of whatever goblins you may be firing at, and a rifle may not be the best choice.
Consider a rifle in a pistol caliber such as the Hi-point in 9mm or .40, or even a lever action in .357 or .44. Marlin lever rifles have been very accurate in my experience, and with practice are almost as fast as a semi-auto for the first 10 rounds (reloading is slow).
Also consider a shotgun if your area is one of closely spaced homes, just to keep from wasting a neighbor you don't want to. You are responsible for what your rounds hit downrange, too.
Its both. I do this kind of work. The debtor makes the property hard to find BECAUSE they don't intend to pay. Usually the advance notice is in writing and directs the debtor to pay what is due by a date certain or face repossession.
It is very rare that the repossessors do not make sure the proper notices were sent out first. Otherwise, they themselves can be held liable.
I do a ton a collection work for tool rental companies. When someone does not return the equipment and does not pay for the rental, is it stealing????? The police say go to civil court, which is a waste of time. Credit and collections is a very difficult field when industry standard dictates 30 day terms etc etc.
I do mostly commercial collections, since I don't like chasing individuals for credit card bills and medical bills. Commercial collections is a whole other ball game. Very often, these dirt bag deadbeats are bad business people and feel that it is perfectly ok to make their profit on a job by screwing those below them than eating their own mistakes. I have zero sympathy in most cases for idiots who feel because they can swing a hammer they can be a legitimate businessperson. Some of my clients do not learn their lesson by not extending credit to certain people. I will not say certain things for fear of name calling, but I tell my clients to use their gut before giving credit. You know what that means right????
Interesting -- most people are honest, but it seems that a small percent prefers dishonesty -- if they put the same effort in honest business, they would probably be more successful.
Sadly, many people equate business to war and think the ends justify the means so long as they make out at the end of the day. I deal with these types all day every day. Many of these deadbeats are no better than muggers in the street, only they do it on paper and not with a knife.
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