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Leaders Fiddle As France Burns (12th Night)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-8-2005 | Colin Randall

Posted on 11/07/2005 5:48:46 PM PST by blam

Leaders fiddle as France burns

By Colin Randall in Paris
(Filed: 08/11/2005)

France was struggling to overcome one of its gravest post-war crises last night as every major city faced the threat of fierce rioting that began 12 nights ago and now seems to have spun out of control.

More than 1,400 vehicles were destroyed during a night of increasing violence

Despite an assurance from Philippe Douste Blazy, the foreign minister, that France was "not a dangerous country", the spread of violence prompted the Foreign Office in London to warn travellers that trouble could break out "almost anywhere".

Dominique de Villepin, the beleaguered prime minister, announced that officials in riot-hit areas would be authorised to impose late-night curfews "wherever it is necessary" in a bid to halt the disturbances.

He rejected calls by a police union for troops to be sent in but said that 1,500 reservists were being called up and repeated an appeal to parents to keep adolescent rioters off the streets.

Although the disorder began on the intimidating sink estates of Paris's northern suburbs, trouble had been reported yesterday in the early hours from most regions of the country. Even areas such as Brittany, the Loire and Bordeaux, favoured by British holidaymakers and second- home hunters, have now been drawn into the worst wave of unrest in France since the spring revolt of 1968 set in motion the downfall of Gen Charles de Gaulle.

Yesterday the violence also claimed its first life. A 61-year-old man died in hospital three days after being beaten unconscious when he left his home in a northern Paris suburb intending to stop rubbish bins being set on fire.

Even before renewed disturbances broke out last night, figures showed that rioters had wrecked 4,700 vehicles, injured more than 100 police and rescue workers, and opened fire in at least six separate incidents.

Of the 1,200 people arrested, more than 30 - half of them juveniles - have already been jailed or given youth custody.

Rioters have targeted schools, churches and public buildings

The police union Action Police CFTC called for curfews to be imposed in all riot-hit areas to combat the "civil war that spreads a little more every day". The mayor of one town, Raincy, north of Paris, announced a late-night street ban on children to "avoid a tragedy". The union also urged the government to send in troops to defeat the trouble-makers, mainly mobs of young people from poor estates dominated by Muslim families whose origins are in France's former colonies in north and sub-Saharan Africa.

Twenty-four hours earlier, a belated and much-criticised intervention by President Jacques Chirac, his first since the violence began, was followed by the worst night of rioting so far.

More than 1,400 vehicles were destroyed, two policemen were injured by birdshot and petrol bomb attacks were launched on schools, churches and public buildings.

Mr Chirac, who had spoken of a French republic resolved to show itself "stronger than those who want to sow violence or fear", made more conciliatory comments in a private meeting yesterday.

President Vaira Vike-Freiberga of Latvia said the French president had admitted to him that "ghettoisation of youths of African or North African origin" was to be deplored, as was French society's "incapacity to fully accept them".

Pascal Clement, the justice minister, announced that three boys, aged 16, had been detained in the southern city of Aix-en-Provence for allegedly using their weblogs, hosted by a pop music radio station, to urge others to riot.

Police claim that ringleaders of the disturbances, which began in the northern Paris surburb of Clichy-sous-Bois on Oct 27 after two boys were accidentally electrocuted while apparently running from police, have become increasingly organised.

The Foreign Office yesterday warned Britons already in France or considering travelling there that the unrest could now break out "almost anywhere".

The new travel advisory painted a much more alarming picture of the threat to British citizens than a similar bulletin issued on Sunday.

Britons should also "avoid any demonstrations which may be taking place in and around" areas affected by the riots, said the Foreign Office website.


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KEYWORDS: 12th; burns; fiddle; france; fwance; insurgency; intifada; jihad; leaders; night; parisriots; quagmire; quijad; surrender; terrorism; uprising
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To: blam

Wasn't there a movie like this...'Is Paris Burning'


121 posted on 11/07/2005 9:01:43 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Dan(9698)

I guess Jacque Pepin's cooking show will revert to reruns for awhile.


122 posted on 11/07/2005 9:06:15 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: blam

It is odd the French don't understand that they way to snuff it out, is to have a show of massive manpower on the streets. That is the signal that the party is over.


123 posted on 11/07/2005 9:19:19 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
They're afraid that such a show of manpower would inflame the situation, which just goes to show that the French don't know their customer. ....a customer that views the soft French reaction (curfews, warnings, etc.) as weakness and is thus encouraged to continue rioting.

Many Westerners (mostly Euro/American leftists) are completely unable to grasp the Islamic mindset.

124 posted on 11/07/2005 9:27:20 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: UCANSEE2

It appears to me that when the POLICE ask for help from the military, they should be listened to.


125 posted on 11/07/2005 9:38:10 PM PST by technochick99 (Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: ShowMeMom

I was in Rennes about 5 years ago, and it was just a regular small French city, IIRC. I remain in shock...


126 posted on 11/07/2005 9:39:47 PM PST by technochick99 (Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: blam

OMG... that "flashpoints" map is absolutely incredible. There damn well better not be any "trouble" near any of our US military cemeteries in France...


127 posted on 11/07/2005 11:21:02 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping! (Check out the "flashpoints" map in #3)

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

128 posted on 11/07/2005 11:26:20 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: blam

Hmmm! Those two pictures don't look like cars burning.


129 posted on 11/07/2005 11:47:20 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM pseudo reporters use "could, may, and might" when they are lying and spinning.)
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To: blam

130 posted on 11/08/2005 12:11:16 AM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM pseudo reporters use "could, may, and might" when they are lying and spinning.)
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To: Westlander; backhoe
"Wasn't there a movie like this...'Is Paris Burning'"

Is Paris Burning? ( Religion of Peace® Alert ) Click the picture:


131 posted on 11/08/2005 12:27:33 AM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM pseudo reporters use "could, may, and might" when they are lying and spinning.)
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To: lightman

"And a Jihadist in gay Paree."

LOL. Very witty indeed. Nice job.


132 posted on 11/08/2005 1:02:41 AM PST by flaglady47
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To: blam; All
Is Paris Burning? ( Religion of Peace® Alert )
Click the picture:

Crosslinked:

Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.


May I call attention to my tagline?

133 posted on 11/08/2005 1:13:53 AM PST by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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To: blam

Yes, they better watch their own house before they criticize us. It's a different story when someone else is attacked. But when it's us...we're supposed to "understand". BULL CRAP!!!


134 posted on 11/08/2005 7:04:09 AM PST by cubreporter
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To: Cobra64
It's Bush's fault because he didn't send in American military and FEMA within 24 hours of the French riots. Bush should be impeached, tried for murder, and executed.

That post made me literally laugh out loud.

Now I'm watching Christiane Amanpour interview these "youth"--"There are no jobs! The government is doing nothing for us! The police harass us!" It's only a matter of time before they somehow blame George W. Bush.

135 posted on 11/08/2005 7:10:18 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: lightman

Re # 68: LOL!


136 posted on 11/08/2005 7:25:28 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Travis McGee

No doubt.


137 posted on 11/08/2005 8:40:36 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: binkdeville

I'd say a slight majority of Caucasian muslims from North Africa and the ME. A lesser number of Black muslims from further south in Africa. A minute number of Black non muslims.


138 posted on 11/08/2005 8:44:25 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

They are afraid that a massive show of manpower and a firm crack down would drive the far Left out of the current ruling coalition. Realpolitik is, sadly, running this show.


139 posted on 11/08/2005 8:46:15 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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