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Paris Burning: How Empires End
Human Events Online ^ | 11/7/05 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 11/07/2005 2:42:16 PM PST by B Knotts

The Romans conquered the barbarians—and the barbarians conquered Rome.

So it goes with empires. And comes now the penultimate chapter in the history of the empires of the West.

This is the larger meaning of the ritual murder of Theo Van Gogh in Holland, the subway bombings in London, the train bombings in Madrid, the Paris riots spreading across France. The perpetrators of these crimes in the capitals of Europe are the children of immigrants who were once the colonial subjects of the European empires.

At this writing, the riots are entering their 12th night and have spread to Rouen, Lille, Marseille, Toulouse, Dijon, Bordeaux, Strasbourg, Cannes, Nice. Thousands of cars and buses have been torched and several nursery schools fire-bombed. One fleeing and terrified woman was doused with gasoline and set ablaze.

The rioters are of Arab and African descent, and Muslim. While almost all are French citizens, they are not part of the French people. For never have they been assimilated into French culture or society. And some wish to remain who and what they are. They live in France but are not French.

The rampage began October 27 when two Arab youths, fleeing what they mistakenly thought was a police pursuit, leapt onto power lines and were electrocuted. The two deaths ignited the riots.

(Excerpt) Read more at humaneventsonline.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: buchanan; eurabia; france; frenchriots; immigration; insurgency; intifada; islam; islamism; jihad; parisriots; patbuchanan; quagmire; surrender; uprising
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To: Wraith
The solution is quite simple. Arrest, convict then deport those that have broken the law. No exceptions.

Are you aware that the perps are French citizens? 2nd generation immigrants.

121 posted on 11/07/2005 4:05:37 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: HungarianGypsy
if you have ever lived in a neighborhood where Mexicans blast that "Mexican polka music" until 2 am you know what I mean

I'm sure they play ranchera music in Hell. Hell wouldn't be Hell without that accordion. :-)

122 posted on 11/07/2005 4:08:31 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: B Knotts
Hey Pat, dirty Mexicans are NOT Religious fanatics!! The usual Pukeannon isolationism wrapped in a taco shell.

Pray for W and Our Troops

123 posted on 11/07/2005 4:11:59 PM PST by bray (Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: SaxxonWoods

"BTW, did you know that Chirac's approval rating in France was 35%----before all this started???? Most of teh French can't stand Chirac, and like America. His main support is Parisan urban elites, celebs and academia (sound familiar?)."

Don't forget to count the Parisian leisure-elite expatriates who flee to their countries of origin everytime France is invaded and surrenders. Well, about one half flee and the other half collaborates with the invaders.


124 posted on 11/07/2005 4:12:39 PM PST by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor!)
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To: rdb3
I'll tell you this much...this is the last time I post a Pat Buchanan thread. :-P

Honestly, I should have known better. But I figured someone would post it, so I might as well.

125 posted on 11/07/2005 4:15:52 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: PetroniusMaximus
"Will America have to save the day again?"

Not for France. Let them lie in the bed they made for themselves. Looks like Chirac's plan to encourage an inflow of Muslims has failed big time. He laid the foundation for this mess--let him clean it up.

Start shooting the bastards and watch it wind way down. Keep up the usual French approach of appeasement and watch the situation grow even worse.

There's a big lesson here for our "new tone in Washington" and "compassionate conservatism" President as well. He'd better learn it--and fast.

126 posted on 11/07/2005 4:17:07 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: B Knotts
Well I just heard the French Gov is promising the Islam0fascist and their little thugs, jobs, scholarships etc. if they will stop being disagreeable.

that should help.......not

127 posted on 11/07/2005 4:19:30 PM PST by marty60
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To: Clemenza

Yes. I believe that all of them are from Guadeloupe, Martinique, Guiane, La Reunion, Mayotte, Wallis & Futuna and la Nouvelle Caledonie.


128 posted on 11/07/2005 4:19:34 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: peyton randolph
"By 2050, there will be 100 million Hispanics in the United States, half of them of Mexican ancestry, heavily concentrated in a Southwest most Mexicans still believe by right belongs to them."

Of course the difference is that by 2050 the Mexicans will be the decedents of small business owners living in the suburbs along side other nationalities. They are assimilating into the American culture. Its not always an easy process, but it is none the less happening. The Islamists don't want to assimilate and the French would never let them even if they wanted to. This is the lie of multiculturalism. If you have separate societies with different rules of behavior it is inevitable that a fight for dominance will occur. The melting pot may not always be pretty to look at, but it is the only answer.
129 posted on 11/07/2005 4:19:50 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Southack

"France has 36,000 districts nationwide, each with its own mayor. All 36,000 of those French mayors are White.
None are Black; none are Islamic; none are North African."

Very interesting. This must mean the mayors of the Islamic districts are white?


130 posted on 11/07/2005 4:20:53 PM PST by Sabatier
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To: peyton randolph
I live in a town that has been overrun with illegal Mexicans and South Americans. They are making ZERO effort to assimilate.

They are simply building their own subculture and breaking the law on a daily basis. They look at us smugly on the street because they know that political correctness is giving them a free ride...just like these Muslims in France.

It would be foolish indeed for us to not view millions of illegal immigrants of any kind as a threat. We can scoff at the French all we like (and I‘m sorry, but I do like it), but we are facing a serious threefold threat within our own borders and our government is too stupid to do anything about it.

1. Muslims pouring into our country 2. Mexicans and South Americans pouring into our country. 3. The massive conversion of our young black men to Islam, the religion of hatred.
131 posted on 11/07/2005 4:21:29 PM PST by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheople! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: Vicomte13
Dang, thanks for the correction. I was using that post for reference.

So why don't these rioters use the political process to address their grievances?

132 posted on 11/07/2005 4:23:15 PM PST by kanawa
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To: kinghorse

"Yeah we are better off short term for having more culturally similar neighbors. France the rest of western Europr got hooked on cheap African labor. We got hooked on cheap Mexican labor. Better for us short term but long term there is no reason for American to exist at all in the eyes of the enemy."

Actually, that isn't the whole story. Many of the Muslim immigrants were allowed into France since they had supported French rule in North Africa. France, fearing reprisals, allowed them into France when they withdrew. It wasn't only 'cheap labor'.


133 posted on 11/07/2005 4:23:59 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
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To: B Knotts

"Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder."
-- A.J. Toynbee


134 posted on 11/07/2005 4:25:57 PM PST by VOA
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To: B Knotts
There may be a threat to a cohesive American culture, but at least it's not a threat to our very liberty.

And you can thank the Spanish Inquisitors for that. Not saying we should have one now, but perhaps just like our ancestors, we may soon be forced into making a choice, inquisiting muslims or our own deaths.

135 posted on 11/07/2005 4:26:13 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: DugwayDuke

France should have listened to Yoda..Fear leads to the dark side.


136 posted on 11/07/2005 4:27:22 PM PST by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheople! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: B Knotts
Blast from the past, words of wisdom as 'immigrants' pour across our border who may or may not intend to hold any allegience to the United States: Theodore Roosevelt (1907) on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN "In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in every fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes any flag, which symbolizes war against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes all foreign flags of any nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American Nation and its people." Theodore Roosevelt 1907
137 posted on 11/07/2005 4:27:45 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: peyton randolph

I understand the concern. But his attacks on the neo-cons (which anger and disgust me even though I would identify more with the paleos than the neos) are still attacks on policy-advocates, many of whom are Jews. They are not attacks on Jews as Jews. It someone were truly a Jew-hater pure and simple, it would of course be possible to disguise that under attacks on Jewish policy-advocates. But just because someone does attack Jewish policy-advocates does not make one a Jew-hater. And George Weigel and Michael Novak and Richard Neuhaus, usually classified with the neo-cons, are devout Catholics, like Pat Buchanan. I think it's unhelpful to reduce neo-cons to Jews and in part I blame the Jewish neo-cons themselves for the fact that this reduction often takes place, since, they have sometimes, instead of arguing the merits of the case, resorted to claiming victimhood as Jews when attacked by Buchanan.


138 posted on 11/07/2005 4:28:23 PM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: B Knotts

You just wait till the Indian software engineers in Silicon Valley start rioting, burning those BMWs, Lexi and the backyard swimming pools out there!


139 posted on 11/07/2005 4:28:23 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Well,that's the death of the thread1)
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To: Sabatier
This must mean the mayors of the Islamic districts are white?

No. They are French. See, being a frenchie is above everything else. Its more important then religion and more important then skin color. Therefore, the black immigrants should have been more then happy to be governed by a frenchie.

In reality, both sides are guilty in this fight. There is no excuse for burning down your own town.

140 posted on 11/07/2005 4:31:13 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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