Posted on 11/07/2005 6:53:27 AM PST by SirLinksalot
Your premise of a "closed union shop" being somehow responsible for unemployment is complete malarkey. The reason those muslim immigrants cannot be employed is non compliance to cultural definitions of terms of employment.
Rather than employers putting up with dress code modifications, language barriers, and giving religous exceptions for prayer rooms and times etc, they would choose not to hire from the available so called workforce and make do with the reliable employees they now have.
And forget not. France is a complete socialist nightmare of private/public appeasement. Just the failure of French Police to stop the rioting with decisive intervention is an indication of appeasement and the unwillingness to offend a group of people. In otherwords, the French are weak and will be conquored once again because fighting is agression, and the French are peaceful.
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First and foremost this is a failure of French socialism
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I agree, but there seems to be MORE than that in the underlying resentment. We seem not to dare speak its name.. I wonder why ???
"So a few yutes went out to egg some cars and it got a little out of hand."
That's what I'm sayin'. Let the kids have some fun.
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With cries of "God is Great", bands of youths armed with whatever they could get hold of went on a rampage and forced the police to flee.
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There you go --- "God is Great", the great Allah Hu Akbar battle cry we so often hear from ... Well well, well, which part of the world ???
What does this battle cry have to do with an inability to find a job and assimilate ?
As I observe ---- Unemployment is a symptom, the cause seems to be DEEPER than that. Remember, the First World Trade Center Bombers were EMPLOYED, so were the London Bombers ( one a school teacher ).
We got to be bold and find out the REAL cause of this... Citing Unemployment is a red herring.
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Muslim participation in the rioting is fifty percent or less. Because of the religious implications people tend to focus of the of levels of Arab and Muslim immigation into France, which is indeed high, but the sub-saharan African immigration is probably even higher. On some stops on the metro you might think you were on a train in South Africa rather than Paris.
Oh yeah.
I remember clearly white supremacists rioting, looting and burning in Cleveland a few weeks ago...
Wait...
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You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Muslim participation in the rioting is fifty percent or less. Because of the religious implications people tend to focus of the of levels of Arab and Muslim immigation into France, which is indeed high, but the sub-saharan African immigration is probably even higher
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What religion do these sub-Saharan African immigrants adhere to ?
SEE HERE FOR INSTANCE :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1517216/posts
And on what basis do you imply that "sub-Saharan" and "muslim" are mutually exclusive?
Nice try, though.
Mark Steyn observes thusly...
Not all Muslims are terrorists. But in today's world all terrorists are Muslim. At least all modern day terrorists.
What the MSM doesn't 'get' is that the people feel there's a connection between the beliefs of Muslims and the violence they inflict on the rest of us. And there needs to be an open discussion about it.
I'm with the people who don't like it when there's prejudice against people because of their faith.
I don't like it when CBS looks down on Christians, or when Nazis look down on Jews or when all Muslims are painted with one brush.
But the truth is that something in the Muslim faith is encouraging this type of antisocial behavior and we need to discuss it openly. There's a place between blind hate and total silly acceptance of differences. And that place needs to be found.
Jews are traditionally the victims of riots.
Jews have not traditionally been the rioters, even though they lived in "ethnic neighborhoods" (ghettos) and were abused much more than these mooligans.
Perhaps the mooligans are angered by the mere existence of people who have been successful despite oppression.
Great clear-headed article by Steyn. Thanks for providing the link.
The approved buzzword euphamism at CNN appears to be "immigrants."
It is the "immigrants" who are rioting, you see.
Most of the damage we've seen in France over the last few weeks has been caused by Muslim youths -- burning cars that are probably owned by other Muslims.
Sub-Saharan Africa is pretty well divided religiously. I'm just saying that I think this is an immigration and cultural problem with a strong religious component first as opposed to strictly a problem with radical Islam. Either way, France is bound to be upended, the multi-cultural, high immigration creed is too well embedded and too incompatible with French economic and social traditions. Even this flare up won't stop the snowball from rolling down hill, and it's too late for any reactionary forces to stand in the way.
It's their favorite country.
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Most of the damage we've seen in France over the last few weeks has been caused by Muslim youths -- burning cars that are probably owned by other Muslims.
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For what I am reading from all who post, the observation goes like this now ....
* We observe that Muslim Youths are the ones rioting.
* We observe that Not all Muslims join the riots.
* We observe that Jews ( a small French minority ) have been targeted not only in the riots, but in the past ( before the riots even happened ).
* We observe that a lot of these rioting Muslim youths are poor, unemployed and unassimilated...
* We observe that some of them seem to have been influenced by radical Islamist teachers.
Therefore....What do we conclude ???
If you were Jacques Chirac, what would be the solution ?
That might be true in some cases, but France's Muslim population -- particularly the younger generations -- is largely secular. If you look at any photo of those rioters you'll notice that the picture could easily have been taken in Los Angeles or Detroit. Ironically, there seems to be very little support for these riotes among older -- and typically more religious -- Muslims in France.
If I were Jacques Chirac there wouldn't be a problem, because well-armed French citizens would have dealt with these disturbances a long time ago.
Whats new. They still call illegal aliens, "immigrants".
Most of the permanent underclass of the United States who would do this kind of thing are either in prison or is working in factories in China and Malaysia.
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