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Paris riots: Islamic terror unmasked
The Times of India ^ | 7 November, 2005 | The Times of India

Posted on 11/07/2005 3:18:31 AM PST by CarrotAndStick

LONDON/PARIS: In the first disturbing assertion that a European country and its capital can be brought to a halt by the massed forces of Islamist militants both within and outside its borders, French police warned there was evidence they had played a role in inciting vandals, albeit "not on the front lines."

With the tough-talking interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy warning of stiff jail sentences for the rioters, there were signs the French capital was a city under siege.

With night buses in and to some of the more remote suburbs cancelled to prevent rioters using them as soft targets, police helicopters patrolled the skies over the capital.

Sikh community leaders, who make up a small but newly-vocal and highly-visible religious minority in France, told TOI they had so far stayed away from the ongoing troubles. But they admitted the authorities' red alert on potentially troublesome immigrant youths might bring the focus closer to South Asian communities as well.

Meanwhile, Yves Bot, Paris chief prosecutor, said the hit-and-run arson attacks were an insidious "form of action that is organised. It responds to a strategy. It's done by mobile units of youths or older guys because they are masked who arrive on scooters, throw a burning bottle at a vehicle and leave."

He said it was "irrefutable" that these "are organised gangs because it's done in a way that gives every sign of coordination. In fact, one can read blogs on certain websites inciting other cities to join the movement of the Parisian region."

In what many commentators believe is the deadly downside of the 'information revolution', Paris police intelligence sources said they feared the Internet was triggering a domino effect across the country.

Meanwhile, Racial unrest spread to the gilded heart of the French capital on Sunday as the 10th night of rioting continued to leave a charred trail of burnt cars and smoky ruins in Paris and provincial towns.

The continued rioting saw violence erupt around one of the grandest symbolic, touristy images of France in central Paris, the Arc de Triomphe, and to yet another region, Normandy. It is thought to have significantly moved up a gear because it came just hours after religious and community leaders conducted a peace march through some of the capital’s worst-hit suburbs.

Police also found a gasoline bomb-making factory in a southern suburb of Paris, with more than 100 bottles, litres of fuel and hoods for hiding rioters’ faces, a senior justice ministry official said on Sunday.

The French authorities on said that the rioting, inexorably spreading across the country, seemed increasingly well-organised and appeared to be coordinated on the Internet by bands of disaffected technophile youths looking to have a "punch up" with police.

On Sunday, with the riot damage rising to its highest levels in 10 nights, police said 1,295 vehicles had been torched and 312 arrests made over the weekend.

On Saturday night, anxious Parisians reported that several of the fires in Paris, particularly around its key train station, the Gare du Nord, began with the lobbing of a Molotov cocktail.

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To: metmom

Saout=South

Must've bumped the wrong key. Proof-reading is my friend.....


21 posted on 11/07/2005 5:28:11 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: whitedog57
>"They destroy non-Islamics. Then they start destroying each other. At some point, we are going to have to declare Islam as a cult rather than a religion; then we can outlaw and deport them. "

Either that, or declare the Manson Family as a religion, and import the Amazonian Jivaro headhunter/cannibal tribe.
Level the playing field and provide for competition for mass murdering savages! You know,.... Capitalism!!!!!

Kill A Commie For Mommie
Seven Dead Monkeys Page O Tunes

23 posted on 11/07/2005 6:06:43 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Always use fresh macaroni.... If the box rattles,.... throw it away."--- Kent Brockman)
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To: CarrotAndStick
The left bank begins to look more and more like the West Bank every day.

I say we get the U.N. Security Council to pass a resolution condemning the riots and imposing econominc sanctions on the rioters. Then we can send in teams of inspectors to find out whether or not there really are any Muslims in the affected regions. Meanwhile, the U.N. can pass more and more resolutions demanding the rioters stop what they're doing and play nice-nice. The rioters call sell French wine under a U.N. sponsored Wine-For-Food program.

It should only take about ten years or so, but it will work, trust me. France can prove to the world their Iraq strategy was correct fromt he beginning.

24 posted on 11/07/2005 6:49:58 AM PST by krazyrep (Demolib Playbook Rule #2: If you can't beat 'em, filibuster. If that doesn't work, go to court.)
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To: G.Mason
That's an interesting angle, and very odd for them to be blaming the Internet at this point.

The UN probably called France and said, "Hello Mr. French. We are sorry that Paris is burning, but we would like to use your sad circumstances to help us take control of the Internet. Would you mind terribly blaming this entire mess on the Internet for us? Thank you so much for your cooperation in this matter. We will get right to work on a resolution to help stop the violence in your country."
25 posted on 11/07/2005 7:16:36 AM PST by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheople! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
And don't forget free college educations to train them in Chemistry, Biology, microbiology, and nuclear technology
26 posted on 11/07/2005 7:24:30 AM PST by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheople! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: johnnydoe
Islam and the mainstream media serve the same master.
27 posted on 11/07/2005 7:26:38 AM PST by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheople! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: russesjunjee
I believe you have summed that up quite well. ;)



28 posted on 11/07/2005 7:44:00 AM PST by G.Mason (The greatest enemy of these United States is the Democrat Party ... the 2nd is government)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Now that the car-burning has spread from France to other countries, we have International Mooliganism.


29 posted on 11/07/2005 7:48:01 AM PST by syriacus (Bowling for Columbine's youthful angst + Fahrenheit 9/11's political passion = MOOLIGANism)
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To: Always Right
Go raid a few retirement homes instead...

That would be easy to accomplish in Europe, since so many of the elderly died from the heat a few years ago.

30 posted on 11/07/2005 7:50:15 AM PST by syriacus (Bowling for Columbine's youthful angst + Fahrenheit 9/11's political passion = MOOLIGANism)
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To: CarrotAndStick

...litres of fuel and hoods for hiding rioters’ faces...

I like the hoods part. This makes the job so much easier. You wear a hood, you're a target. You find a bullet ridden body wearing a hood, no sympathy...


31 posted on 11/07/2005 8:27:17 AM PST by Paisan
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To: chainsaw

Chainsaw, don't be fooled by the media. This is a french link, once again the internet beats the MSM:

http://www.chretiente.net/breve.php3?id_breve=1156

It says:

«The sentence is so short that it has good chances to pass unnoticed. And all the french media to the 'orders' (of whom you know, my note) hopes that it would:
"Two churches were targetted by incendiary cocktails, at Lens (Pas-de-Calais) and at Sète (Hérault), declared Patrick Hamon of the DGPN (General Directorate of the National Police)"
Nothing to do with a tear gaz grenade in a mosque, this time....it is throwing incendiary cocktails.
The more things get tough, the less french medias report the facts. Till When?»

So, the french people are getting it! it is Mr. Chirac that do not want to get it, yet. After all, he owes a large part of his presidential campaign to Saudi money through the late Hariri.


32 posted on 11/07/2005 8:41:26 AM PST by Patrick_k
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To: CarrotAndStick

Masked terrorists throwing molotov cocktails from motor scooters..... thousands of cars torched....... police should be authorized to shoot such scumbags on sight........ but that would get a lot of Euro-panties all twisted up.


33 posted on 11/07/2005 9:07:01 AM PST by Enchante (Joe Wilson: "I don't know anything about uranium, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night!")
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To: G.Mason
Let's see ... Without the internet there would be no coordinated insurrection. Obvious solution? Ban the internet, or at least allow the UN to take it over. Yeah ... that's the ticket.

Seems an obvious bit of ammunition for those arguing that the UN should grab the Internet...maybe all the cell phones and text messaging companies as well, since those have also been used.

All part of the UN's desire to be a fully realized totalitarian regime...just what we need, an incompetent totalitarian ruler.

34 posted on 11/07/2005 9:12:38 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: son of caesar
"just try burning 4,000 cars in twelve or so cities and see what happens to you"

Good point, it is amazing (but not surprising) to see the amount of coddling that goes on for politically protected groups..... imagine if this were a campaign by neo-Nazi thugs, the libs would demand an intense crackdown!! Oh, wait, these ARE neo-Nazi thugs, but since they happen to be from Muslim immigrant communities rather than nasty 'white' communities they are a protected class. Question: did Adolf Hitler's Nazi party ever create mayhem on this scale before they came to power? I don't think so.... they had some nasty street fights and brutal beatings of opponents (some political murders, too) but I don't think they ever got away with anything on this scale before 1933.
35 posted on 11/07/2005 9:13:47 AM PST by Enchante (Joe Wilson: "I don't know anything about uranium, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night!")
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To: highlander_UW
" ... All part of the UN's desire to be a fully realized totalitarian regime...just what we need, an incompetent totalitarian ruler."


Or any totalitarian ruler.


Hang on to your guns and ammo and practice regularly. ;)



36 posted on 11/07/2005 9:19:00 AM PST by G.Mason (The greatest enemy of these United States is the Democrat Party ... the 2nd is government)
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To: G.Mason
Or any totalitarian ruler.

LOL...Good point...I stand corrected, we don't need any sort AND the UN is incompetent.

37 posted on 11/07/2005 9:24:11 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: CarrotAndStick

"The continued rioting saw violence erupt around one of the grandest symbolic, touristy images of France in central Paris, the Arc de Triomphe..."

This is the first I've read of this. Does anyone have more information? Yikes!

So if this is all being driven by poverty, exactly where are these "youths" getting the money for internet/text messaging services, motor scooters, gasoline for the bombs, etc.???


38 posted on 11/07/2005 9:48:00 AM PST by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: highlander_UW
I did not intend to be "picky". I just bristled at the word. ;)



39 posted on 11/07/2005 10:57:14 AM PST by G.Mason (The greatest enemy of these United States is the Democrat Party ... the 2nd is government)
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To: G.Mason
I did not intend to be "picky". I just bristled at the word. ;)

No problem...it made me consider my comment in the light of which was worse, an incompetent totalitarian government or an effective one...I think I'd rather then incompetent one :P

40 posted on 11/07/2005 11:01:00 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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