Posted on 11/06/2005 8:17:38 PM PST by quesney
November 06, 2005
I haven't written about the Paris (and now perhaps French) intifada, partly because I've been too busy and partly because it's so sad. I've been saying since the early days of Power Line that France is done-for, but seeing this evidence of the phenomenon is much more harrowing than contemplating the concept. Despite my frequent and harsh criticism of France and the French (too frequent and harsh to suit my French wife), I love the city of Paris and some aspects of French culture. The demise of that city and that culture, for all the faults of both, is tragic.
The riots in themselves signal no such demise. We had our race riots in the late 1960s. But these riots are fundamentally different. Although our rioters had reason to hate America, deep-down they didn't. Our riots came at the tail end of the great and peaceful civil rights revolution. By the time they occurred, Congress had already passed the legislation that would vastly diminish the injustices that sparked them. The movement that Martin Luther King led was profoundly pro-American. It challenged America to live up to its creed. The rioters were kids who, to the extent they claimed to be separatists, were fooling themselves and no one else. It was their impatience with the pace of integration which caused them to embrace the shock rhetoric of extreme black nationalism.
As far as I can tell, the situation in France today is nothing like that. These riots are not the tail-end of a peaceful, pro-French civil rights movement. They are a manifestation of raw hatred of France. The anti-French rhetoric is not the result of youthful hot-headedness or a desire to shock the French into living up to their creed (if what France stands for can be called that). It is, at least in part, the product of a religion with its own diametrically opposite creed. The leaders of the movement behind the riots aren't demanding that the French embrace them. Their objective is to transform France into an Islamic state. The intention is not to do away with the vestiges of slavery. At best, it is to preserve their ability to act outside of the constraints of law and western civilization. At worst, it is to terrorize the French until they convert to Islam, and to enslave those who don't convert.
France's situation may not be hopeless, but it's not easy to see the way out. The best hope may be that the U.S. succeeds in its efforts to transform the Middle East to the point that Muslims perceive themselves as having a stake in the democratic project (as American blacks did) and in the global economy. Ironically, France has done just about everything it can to undermine this effort by the U.S.
Posted by Paul at 07:12 PM
Good post. As I recall, being a member of the Communist Party once disqualified people for citizenship. Muslims, of course, have full permission to lie when taking an oath, making a contract, or entering into any other relationship with the "infidel," so the oath wouldn't really dissuade them. But maybe following up on it and kicking them out would, or better yet, checking them out well in advance.
A point well-made.
You forget that Hitler was appointed Chancellor by vonHindenberg--he was not elected. So much for historical illiterates.
Liberty, Fraternity and Stupidity.
The only short-term hope is secularization and placating them with consumerism. Democratization is the first step. Long term, the best hope is to Christianize them. But Mohammedanism in notoriously impervious to Christian missionary efforts.
LOL... how true! Huguenots... Bastille... the Jacobins... sounds like a broken record.
Remember this, my friends; french duplicity became a staple of that nation's character since all the way back on september 11th/12th of 1683 @ the gates of Vienna... the only reason the turks got close enough to almost taking that city via siege was that the French had decided not to participate in the military campaign (reasoning that - once the austrians were defeated, France would be the strongest remaining European power... imagine that! cutting off one's nose to spite one's face!)
Damn the frogs, let them stew in their own juices!
CGVet58
"It is, at least in part, the product of a religion with its own diametrically opposite creed."
Right. Michael Savage has been putting that particular point very well. That single, simple sentence cannot be emphasized enough. Western Immorality is the root of why the Allah-Nutbars feel superior to us. They can justify everything they do by pointing out brazen prostitution, smut-peddling, shameless adultery, and most notably: homosexuality, as reasons to justify their war.
It's the Cultural Divide, more so than any US foreign policy. Chirac did everything he could to distance himself from US foreign policy, short of wearing a Durbin, er, turban.
While I do not believe in pandering to terrorists, I also believe that it is the duty of the US to, on the one hand, allow maximum freedom, including keeping sexual degeneracy legal for the most part, but on the other hand, we should dampen down any gloating by the degenerates.
Like it or not, we are leaders of the Free World, and the French Riots prove that the world BADLY NEEDS us to lead right now. We must take steady steps to help temporize Islamic criticisms of our culture.
For example: sabotage porn. Janet Jackson used Sabotage Porn, tricking entire families into seeing her in a pornographic sense. Sabotage Porn should result in severe consequences that make it impossible for the degenerate to ever profit from it. I'm not talking about the flasher next door. I'm talking about someone who:
1. Does something like that on stage, camera, etc.: knowing it will be witnessed by hundreds of thousands.
2. Someone who is raking in half a million a year or more through stage, camera, etc.
3. Is proven to have done it or help it be done on purpose.
I would also like to junk like Madonna's lesbian kiss with Britney be made illegal too, unless it is in a designated video or movie clearly labelled, "lesbian".
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