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Europe risks economic damage from Kyoto - study
Reuters ^ | 11/06/05 | Stuart Penson

Posted on 11/06/2005 7:52:21 PM PST by nypokerface

LONDON (Reuters) - Europe's push to meet pollution targets agreed under the Kyoto Protocol on climate change could dent its economies and cost hundreds of thousands of jobs by 2010, according to research published on Monday.

Compliance with Kyoto's greenhouse gas reduction targets could hit gross domestic product in Germany, Britain, Spain and Italy as energy energy bills soar, said pro-business thinktank International Council for Capital Formation (ICCF).

"The findings of our research suggest that an alternative approach (to climate change) is urgently needed for both the developing and developed world," said Margo Thorning, Managing Director of the Brussels-based ICCF.

ICCF predicted the loss of at least 200,000 jobs in each of Italy, Germany, Britain and Spain as governments chase greenhouse gas reduction targets set out under Kyoto, which came into force in February.

Average increases of 26 percent in electricity prices and 41 prices in gas prices by 2010 were also predicted in the ICCF's study.

Germany's gross domestic product ( GDP) could be reduced by 0.8 percent from base case levels by 2010, with Spain and Britain suffering reductions of 3.1 percent and 1.1 percent respectively, the ICCF said.

The United States has refused to sign up to Kyoto, saying it could damage the U.S. economy.

Thorning said the ICCF's findings supported recent comments by British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who said last week that the world may need to move away from target-based climate change policies after Kyoto's first phase ends in 2012.

Later this month, United Nations talks on climate change will take place in Montreal, the first formal talks over how to approach the issue after 2012.

"A cooperative global approach to reducing emission growth is more likely to produce real emissions reductions, without damaging economic growth in the EU and elsewhere," said the ICCF's Thorning.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: globalism; leftistdeception; leftistidiocy
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1 posted on 11/06/2005 7:52:21 PM PST by nypokerface
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To: DaveLoneRanger; GreenFreeper


2 posted on 11/06/2005 7:53:36 PM PST by FOG724 (http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
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To: nypokerface
The burning cars, and armed Muslim youth could be a problem as well. At least they are noticing that some of their self-destructive behavior is coming back to bite them.
3 posted on 11/06/2005 7:54:16 PM PST by Sthitch
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"The United States has refused to sign up to Kyoto, saying it could damage the U.S. economy."

Thank you GW.


4 posted on 11/06/2005 7:56:09 PM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches, hard to get rid of.>)
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I wonder how many greenhouse gasses those burning cars are releasing?


5 posted on 11/06/2005 7:56:57 PM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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I wonder how much air pollution burning muslims will produce?
6 posted on 11/06/2005 7:57:18 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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Europe's push to meet pollution targets agreed under the Kyoto Protocol on climate change could dent its economies and cost hundreds of thousands of jobs by 2010, according to research published on Monday.

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and you EUROWeinies Called us Americans Stupid for not agreeing to it.

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7 posted on 11/06/2005 7:57:24 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: nypokerface
"The findings of our research suggest that an alternative approach (to climate change) is urgently needed for both the developing and developed world," said Margo Thorning, Managing Director of the Brussels-based ICCF.

I have an alternative approach. Do nothing. It will have exactly the same effect on global warming.

8 posted on 11/06/2005 7:58:57 PM PST by DakotaGator
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That didn't take long, now did it?


9 posted on 11/06/2005 7:59:15 PM PST by digger48
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To: nypokerface
The United States has refused to sign up to Kyoto, saying it could damage the U.S. economy.

Why is this such a big deal?  Everyone knows American cows don't have flatulence, they're too pretty..

10 posted on 11/06/2005 7:59:26 PM PST by quantim (Just be glad Detroit is not in a hurricane zone.)
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Like there's going to be a Europe left at this rate? I'd think the heat from all those fires would warm them more than some miniscule amount ot CO2.


11 posted on 11/06/2005 8:00:38 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: nypokerface
Europe's push to meet pollution targets agreed under the Kyoto Protocol on climate change could dent its economies and cost hundreds of thousands of jobs by 2010, according to research published on Monday.

That's the whole intent of the Kyoto Fiasco.

12 posted on 11/06/2005 8:01:05 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, the national news media was the GOOD GUYS.)
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To: nypokerface
Europe's push to meet pollution targets agreed under the Kyoto Protocol on climate change could dent its economies and cost hundreds of thousands of jobs by 2010, according to research published on Monday.

That's the whole intent of the Kyoto Fiasco.

13 posted on 11/06/2005 8:01:05 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, the national news media was the GOOD GUYS.)
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Thank you GW.

Bush did not do this. It was done by Congress under Clinton.

14 posted on 11/06/2005 8:02:37 PM PST by FOG724 (http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
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I apologize for the echo. Finger was too quick on the draw.


15 posted on 11/06/2005 8:02:40 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, the national news media was the GOOD GUYS.)
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To: DakotaGator

"I have an alternative approach. Do nothing. It will have exactly the same effect on global warming."

Ditto.


16 posted on 11/06/2005 8:05:33 PM PST by hsalaw
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There is only one problem with this article:

The author assumes that the European nations which signed the Kyoto Agreement were serious about reducing their green house gas emissions. It is better than even money that most, if not all, of the European nations that signed Kyoto had no intention to abide by the terms of Kyoto.

IMHO I think the whole Kyoto effort was a cheap attempt to shut down the American economic machine. There isn’t a nation, or long term group of nations that can compete with America without our ACTIVE support. Kyoto was the first of many attempts by the rest of the world to shut down the American economic machine.


17 posted on 11/06/2005 8:09:41 PM PST by Nip (SPECTRE - Still a vision of life and death after 35 years.)
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To: nypokerface

Kyoto Treaty = prevent a hypothetical by destroying real jobs and lowering the standard of living.

That is the heart of radical environmentalism.


18 posted on 11/06/2005 8:19:42 PM PST by Maynerd
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All this baloney about removing CO2 from combustion gases, or carbon from fossil fuels. Still no solution to where to put all of the CO2 that is captured. It's always been half a solution, and wouldn't prevent global warming even if CO2 capture (and retention) were practical. The majority of the global warming is due to cycles in the sun's intensity. Capturing CO2 won't put a dent in it.

Alternative energy sources (solar, wind, etc.) are either very expensive or can only supply a small portion of the energy needs. Nuclear energy is the only practical alternative to fossil fuels, and not many people want to jump on that bandwagon these days.

And the Euros are finally acknowledging the obvious. Not only are their attempts at stopping global warming futile, but those half-assed attempts are very damaging to the economy. This is a clear demonstration of what happens when a political agenda (rabid socialist environmentalism) trumps science and engineering. The shame of it is how many of the technical folks signed onto this stuff because they had succumbed to the rhetoric from the Left.


19 posted on 11/06/2005 8:22:37 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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Compliance with Kyoto's greenhouse gas reduction targets could hit gross domestic product in Germany, Britain, Spain and Italy as energy energy bills soar, said pro-business thinktank International Council for Capital Formation (ICCF).

This was targeted at the USA but the Senate refused it, 98-1-1, I think. Slick Willie signed it but the Senate wouldn't go along. Bush quashed it from the executive point of view when he took office.

20 posted on 11/06/2005 8:25:12 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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