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Got That "Ooo La La, Intifada" Feeling?
Israel National News ^ | Nov. 6, 2005 | Steven Plaut

Posted on 11/06/2005 9:54:46 AM PST by Alouette

Well, there are very few things as amusing these days as watching the French grapple with their backyard intifada. The suburbs of Paris are now more dangerous than Jenin, and the French are getting their comeuppance for decades of snootiness, for anti-American and anti-Israel agitprop, for decades of cowardice, and especially for the repulsive French love of old Jerry Lewis movies.

Paris is now being targeted by violent rioting hordes. For years, the French accused American racism of having produced the race riots in the US in the 1960s and 1970s, as well as the Los Angeles riots after the Rodney King business. And the French are sure that only Jewish cussedness and just plain Israeli evil lie behind the behavior of the Palestinian pogromchiki. The Gall of dem Galls!

Well, now that the French are experiencing their own intifada, we suggest that they resolve the problem using the very same plan that they have been trying for decades to impose upon Israel. Yes, comrades, it is time to implement the Land for Peace Plan, Paris-style. Here it is:

The French Solution: Land for Peace

So after leading the Solidarity-with-the-Baathists movement in Europe during the recent Gulf War, France is now enjoying its own intifada by urban Muslim resistance fighters, in suburban Paris. Of course, this is all on top of France's long history of supporting Islamist fascism and Palestinian terrorism.

Now, a few years back, during a trip to Israel, French Prime Minister Lionel Jospin urged Israel to make concessions for peace. More interesting yet, in documents relating to his visit, Jerusalem was called the ''capital of the Palestinian Authority.'' And what do the French consider to be the capital of Israel? Tel Aviv, of course. This trip followed by a few years a visit made by President Jacques Chirac, who used the occasion of his visit in 1996 to announce that ''Syria has a moral right to demand return of the Golan Heights.''

These French politicians may be on to something important. Never one to back down from a challenge, I have prepared a set of proposals for consideration by the French people, so that not only can they preserve peace in Parisian suburbia, but they too can achieve a full, lasting and just peace with their urban resistance opponents.

First, until this plan is implemented in full, we must insist that the French government acknowledge that there is no military or police solution to the problems of violence in its suburbs, and only through recognizing the legitimacy of the demands of the murderers and rioters outside Paris can the problems be resolved.

Second, we all agree that territory must not be annexed by force. Therefore, we can also agree that Germany has a moral right to demand the return of Alsace-Lorraine, for the French aggression in 1945 and its consequent occupation must not be rewarded. ''A full withdrawal for full peace'' should operate here. Further, France must agree to the return and rehabilitation of all ethnic Germans expelled from Alsace-Lorraine after World Wars I and II, as well as all those they define as their descendents.

But this, of course, is just the first step toward a solution, as no aggression can be rewarded, and France has much other stolen territory to return. It took Corsica from Genoa, Nice and Savoy from Piedmont. As the successor state, Italy must get back all these lands. By similar token, territories grabbed from the Hapsburgs go back to Austria, including Franche-Comte, Artois and historic Burgundy. The Roussillon area (along the Pyrenees) must be returned to Spain, its rightful owner. And Normandy, Anjou, Aquitaine and Gascony must be returned to their rightful owners - the British royal family.

Not even this is enough for the sake of peace. Brittany and Languedoc must be granted autonomy at once, recognizing the Breton and Occitan liberation organizations as their legal rulers. This leaves the French government in control over the Ile de France (the area around Paris).

That, however, still does not solve the problem of the Holy City of Paris, sacred to artists, gourmets and adulterers. The Corsicans obviously have a historic claim to the Tomb of the Emperor Napoleon, their famed son, as well as the Invalides complex and beyond. For the sake of peace, is it too much to ask that Paris be the capital for two peoples? The French authorities must agree to prevent French Parisians from even entering the sacred tomb area, lest this upset the Corsicans.

The Saint Chapelle and the Church of Notre Dame, of course, will be internationalized, under joint Vatican-art-historical auspices. Indeed, the French should consider it a compliment of the highest order that so many people see Paris as an international city.

The French have nothing to complain about. They will enjoy the benefits of peace and retain control of the Champs Elysees.

Actually, come to think of it, even the Champs Elysees may be too much. Recalling the French position that Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel, perhaps the true French capital is not Paris at all, but Vichy.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: france; insurgency; oolalahahaha; parisriots; uprising
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To: Roy Tucker

Why are French Boulevards lined with trees?

So The German Army can march in the shade..


41 posted on 11/06/2005 11:21:12 AM PST by Wil H
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To: Alouette
(Did anybody say this yet?)

Touche!

42 posted on 11/06/2005 11:21:14 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: All
This is from a Greek Newspaper reporting on the Moslem Riot.



http://news.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_world_100046_06/11/2005_162645

The article is in Greek and only a small part of the paper but it is there.
43 posted on 11/06/2005 11:33:25 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Alouette
Vichy... -- spit --

Pierre Laval lives in the hearts of Frenchmen!

44 posted on 11/06/2005 11:38:40 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: Frenetic
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If you want to plumb the true depths of French cowardice and hypocrisy in the face of the enemy, there's no better film than "The Sorrow and the Pity", which tells the story of France under Nazi occupation. It weaves together interviews and newsreel clips and propaganda films shot by the Nazis. Director Marcel Ophüls uses interviews with people who often contradict each other, so the story of France not only occupied but divided against itself. Ophuls has detailed the almost complete failure of the French nation of the mid-twentieth century to contest the Nazi invasion of the country which had been the military giant of the Napoleonic period and the stubborn, enduring survivors and eventual victors of WW I. Not only did their leaders kow-tow to the blitz-krieg, but Laval, president of occupied France and Petain, leader of Vichy, obscenely rushed to collaborate with the invaders of their country in the Nazi genocide.

45 posted on 11/06/2005 11:39:31 AM PST by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: Antioch

"Woody Allen presents"


46 posted on 11/06/2005 12:03:03 PM PST by Alouette (Gaza: Too small to be a country, too large to be an insane asylum.)
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To: Mister Da
Does ANYONE have a clue how the FRENCH can win this battle?

Dust off the Spanish and Portuguese history books from about a thousand years ago. I believe the Knights of Templar have their roots in France and perhaps it is time to reform that organization.

47 posted on 11/06/2005 12:25:51 PM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: Mister Da
Does ANYONE have a clue how the FRENCH can win this battle?

Shoot to kill, imprison the survivors, expel the supporters. Oh, I'm sorry; you asked how the French could win this battle.

48 posted on 11/06/2005 12:35:10 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Nature abhors a vacuum. So do cats.)
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To: hsalaw

Ask for military help?! I don't doubt that they have the requisite chutzpah. But it's really going to irritate me to no end if someone answers the phone this time. I'm all about the tree of liberty being nourished with the blood of patriots and tyrants, but I've just had it up to the blessed ears with the French in particular and the Europeans in general. Let them find the solution.

Solutions for all problems for the Europeans begin with talks, right? Multi-lateral talks. It is from these lofty talks that we have seen emerge elegant solutions - Bosnia, Rwanda, Darfour. Oh, wait! John Bolton has blocked that discourse saying that we (the UN) are going to snap out of that ugly European habit of pointlessly flapping our gums.

But France is an independent country and a member of a great organisation called the European Union which has a 485 page constitution beginning with the words "His Majesty, the king of the Belgians, ...." and containing a description on lard, suet and other rendered animal fat. It's obvious that Europeans can thoroughly dissect a problem through 'talks'. So let them talk ad infinitum as they always do. If someone answers the phone at the White House, I hope that the response goes something like this: The United States is confident in France's ability to resolve all disputes through civilized discourse, being, of course, the cradle of Western civilization. Oh, and by the way, President Bush sends his regards. Click.


49 posted on 11/06/2005 12:36:46 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Antioch

I recently watched the French newsreels that were compiled during the period, and are now available on compact disc. Petain is continually glorified and Jews are mocked as in the early years of the Third Reich, as preparation for genocide. Hitler is looked upon as a great friend and benefactor of the cowardly French.

No self respecting Frenchman could defend the Vichy government. The rebels of the time were mainly communists. They were the only ones hard enough and brutal enough to fight the Nazis and collaborators at gut level.


50 posted on 11/06/2005 12:42:06 PM PST by Luke21 (Political correctness is the insane religion of our rulers.)
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To: Luke21
No self respecting Frenchman could defend the Vichy government. The rebels of the time were mainly communists. They were the only ones hard enough and brutal enough to fight the Nazis and collaborators at gut level.

It's astonishing. Throughout the documentary, you hear the ordinary French in their admiration for the occupiers: They admire German army discipline, they love the chic lines of the SS and Gestapo uniforms (actually designed by Hugo Boss!) they are impressed by German organizational abilities (over French civil government); they return the favour of occupation by assisting in scapegoating the Jews and helping transit them to the camps in Poland. When the end of the war comes and a reckoning is due, the French Men are reprehensible. Instead of examining their own cowardice, national catharsis consists of dragging any the women rumored to have had a German boyfriends in the war years, out to their town squares and shaving their heads and parading them around to humiliate them.

51 posted on 11/06/2005 1:02:43 PM PST by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: emiller

LOL!


52 posted on 11/06/2005 1:22:05 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Alouette
This is actually no joke. The Islamofacist Terrorist Gang Masters are looking toward the eventual adoption of a Two State Solution in France, in which the Muslim areas are a completely separate soveriegn entity. And who in France as the cajones to stop them?
53 posted on 11/06/2005 1:28:30 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Alouette; samtheman

I agree with samtheman, it isn't even funny. Should the French government decide to cede control of these areas to the gangs they absolutely will have adopted a "land for peace" policy in a literal sense. And I believe that's exactly what they're going to do.


54 posted on 11/06/2005 1:34:11 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Alouette
As much as French bashing is fun and deserved, we should remember the old axiom that a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged by reality. Many French are hard cases who'll take a LOT of mugging to convert, but we should be ready to welcome the survivors. Plus there are still a few people there from the mold of Lafayette who don't need mugging to become worth saving. Freeper Sabine comes to mind.

Remember the biggest lesson of WWII. No matter how big and tough you are, you don't want to fight everyone at once. Left with a war against Britain alone, Hitler invades first the Balkans, then Russia, then declares war on US when our full attention could arguably have been diverted to Japan. Meanwhile Churchill, knowing full well what Stalin's Russia really was, was willing to accept its help against the enemy of the moment.

We really don't want Europe to move from the camp of annoying neutrals to join the camp of those actively against us. Sure the jihadists would run the place down even faster than the socialists currently in charge, but that capital account is large even by our standards and it will take time to destroy. In the interim we don't want it used against us. Also some of that capital account is of value to us and we'd regret losing it. France might be a wonderful place to visit without the French, but how much of that wonder would survive rule by the Taliban? Art, music, wine and topless beaches would all go the way of the Afghan Buddas. Instead we should hope not only that the French, presently on their road to Damascus, convert, but that the mugged conversion of such exemplary liberals be enough to convert many lesser liberals throughout Europe. We could use the allies.

55 posted on 11/06/2005 1:34:31 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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To: samtheman; Thinkin' Gal
"And who in France as the cajones to stop them?"

Who, indeed:

"...defiant Gaul, for whom surrender to the 'crazy Romans' was not an option. A classic underdog, who, from with a magic potion brewed by his village's druid, draws supernatural strength with which he can overcome the impossible odds of taking on the Roman Empire, at times defying (and outwitting) even the mighty Julius Caesar himself.

56 posted on 11/06/2005 1:39:54 PM PST by cyn
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To: Alouette
Alouette, gentille Alouette.
57 posted on 11/06/2005 1:42:53 PM PST by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Billthedrill

And, of course, "land for peace" is always a one-way exchange. There's never any peace. Just more threats, and more demands, for more land.


58 posted on 11/06/2005 1:43:34 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Alouette

The French Solution: Land for Peace

*****

Oh dear G-d I love it! Popping popcorn for night 11.


59 posted on 11/06/2005 1:46:42 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: Mister Da

The only way to deal with the situation in France is to allow non-Muslims to own guns. That would stop riots immediately.


60 posted on 11/06/2005 1:48:09 PM PST by winner3000
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