Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 6 November 2005

Various big media television networks ^ | 6 November 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[rodguy911]

Yeah let's hope.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Kristol is asking a very good question: Why is the WH acting like a punching bag and not fighting back against the charges that they lied us into war?

[Bahbah]

The MTP round table is one of those cluster thingies that get mentioned here from time to time. Brownstien is really excited that the HBM has been able to convince an increasing number of Americans not to trust the President. Totenberg thinks getting it back will be very difficult. This is just DNC talking points. It is awful.

[snugs]

We do not have term limits but we do stop rambling our speaker pulls them up plus other Members do not put up with such rubbish being said.

[Morgan in Denver]

I don't like the piling on either. Not new, though. The press has been anti-Bush since 1999. Honestly, I do not believe the polls, the usual MSM suspects or anything coming out of the DNC, DU or MoveOn related sources.

[maica]

I am screaming here. Brit just said the Senators overreacted to Reid's maneuver.
He11, Kristol had just said in the previous segment that the Rs need to fight, okay, he was talking about the White House.

I feel like my brain is suffering from whiplash.

[SwatTeam]

Happy Birthday. Life gets better every day.

[George W. Bush]

Please cite for me three specific instances where the Patriot Act has been used to infringe on Civil Liberties. Not generic "what ifs" but specific instances of real abuses.

Your remarks indicate you don't even grasp the nature of the debate over renewal of Patriot and certain provisions.

Patriot I was rushed through in the aftermath of 9/11 by a panicked Senate. A few have any great objections to it. But as a matter of permanent national security concerns, balanced with our concerns for civil liberties, Patriot II has to be scaled back.

You're simply out of the mainstream on this. And Hagel and people like Ron Paul have concerns about this.

Maybe you should start to think about what a Hillary! could do with such legal measures. It provides the pretext for all sorts of politically-motivated actions. Places like FR could easily be affected.

And if civil liberties don't concern you, well, too bad. After all, Hagel and Nelson of Nebraska don't have to worry about the two-bit opinions of people from Minnesota. BTW, I suggest you clean up your own state's senators before hacking on mine.

	Party	2004	2003	LifeTime	YOS
Norm COLEMAN	R	84	85	85	2
Mark Dayton	D	12	20	10	4
Chuck HAGEL	R	87	100	85	8
Ben Nelson	D	52	42	52	4

Some people would say you might do better to tend your own knitting.

[cardinal4]

Kristol is asking a very good question: Why is the WH acting like a punching bag and not fighting back against the charges that they lied us into war?

Kristol and good question dont belong in the same sentence, either. Having said that, W has never responded to attacks. But this is the worst barrage yet, from the left. If W would hold a 900pm address, naming names, pointing out hypocrisy, calling out Dems, and chastising for politicizing the war, he would just be accused of something else. (It would make me feel better though!)

[snugs]

Check our some of Dr Deb's postings on polls she is brilliant how she breaks them down and show how biased the sampling etc is.

[Seattle Conservative]

David Gregory (I can barely stomach him) said that the Pres (or WH) is in serious trouble, need to clean house, the Pres knows he needs to get rid of Rove if he wants to move forward, blah, blah, blah. He obviously got the fax from the DNC. I am getting so sick of this cr*pola.

[A Citizen Reporter]

Don't be deceived by Kristol. He AIN'T on the side of the pubbies or conservatives. He just pretends to be in order to still up trouble in the ranks.

[maica]

I just listened to the entire FNS show and did not hear any mentionof President Bush bing in South America this week. Did I miss that topic? Okay, I did not listen to the McCain segment.

[A Citizen Reporter]

And if he did hold such a press conference, none of the LSM would cover it.

[FreedomNeocon]

What is this PAP ON CSPAN?

Zaki Chehap Author of "Inside the Resistance"...

"What we needed was not De-Baathification, we needed De-Bremmirization"

Ugh... I can't waste any time watching, but thats what I got on a commercial flip.

[irons_player]

That had to be the worst FNS:panel I've seen in a long time.

[SwatTeam]

Which, of course is the key. I was arguing with one of the granolas at work over this and I kept asking her, "Who sent Joe Wilson?" She said it didnt make a difference because he proved Bush a liar. GRRRRRRR! You know we on the Right need to recognize something-the enemies of the Bush admin have done an amazing job in their attacks. Media manipulation and behind the scenes political machinations have formed a lot of false opinions in people who, if the could see past CNN and Russert, would never ever vote for a democrat again. Machiavelli would have loved these guys..

This type of hype and misinformation is what got Watergate started. A solid year of all three networks pounding and pounding with the same kind of minutae blown up into world shattering news and Nixon, who was paranoid anyway, reacted like the MSM hoped and panicked. He started trying to protect people who should have been thrown to the wolves and then he started covering his tracks or trying to. And the rest they say is distorted history.

I remember a lot of the happenings. And it was all 3 channels nearly nonstop.

[Carolinamom]

Anyone who believes that the dems' advice to GWB to clean house is wellmeaning and because they like him and only want to help him is an absolute fool. The problem is that there are many uninformed fools in this country.

[chiller]

FYI, the Pres. in S. America was briefly mentioned in the opening news segment.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Agree.