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Thousand cars torched in latest French riots(Paris/France burns, Live Thread Night #11)
Reuters ^ | 11/06/05 | Elisabeth Pineau

Posted on 11/06/2005 5:07:47 AM PST by Dane

Thousand cars torched in latest French riots Sun Nov 6, 2005 12:17 PM GMT

By Elisabeth Pineau

PARIS (Reuters) - Gangs of youths torched 1,300 vehicles overnight in the 10th consecutive night of violence in Paris's poor suburbs and major French towns, despite the deployment of thousands of extra police.

Cars were burnt out in the historic centre of Paris for the first time on Saturday night. In the normally quiet Normandy town of Evreux, a shopping mall, 50 vehicles, a post office and two schools went up in flames.

Authorities have so far found no way beyond appeals and more police to address a problem with complex social, economic and racial causes.

Evreux mayor Jean-Louis Debre, a confidant of President Jacques Chirac and speaker of the lower house of parliament, told France Info radio:

"To those responsible for the violence, I want to say: Be serious ... If you want to live in a fairer, more fraternal society, this is not how to go about it."

The deaths 10 days ago of two youths apparently fleeing police ignited pent up frustrations among young men, many of them Muslims of North and black African origin, at racism, unemployment, their marginal place in French society and their treatment by the police.

"Many youths have never seen their parents work and couldn't hold down a job if they got one," said Claude Chevallier, manager of a burned-out carpet depot in the rundown Paris suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois.

But authorities now say the rolling nightly riots are being organised via the Internet and mobile phones, and have pointed the finger at drug traffickers and Islamist militants.

Overnight, 1,295 vehicles were torched across France, the highest total so far, police said. An extra 2,300 officers have been drafted in.

Seven police helicopters buzzed over the Paris region through the night, filming disturbances and directing mobile squads to incidents. Overnight, police made 349 arrests.

The number of incidents in the Paris region was similar to the night before, but in the provinces it was up sharply.

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The violence has tarnished France's image abroad, forcing Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin to cancel a trip to Canada, while Russia and the United States have warned their citizens to avoid Paris's troubled suburbs.

Villepin has combined a call for an end to the riots with dialogue with community leaders, youngsters and local officials, and has promised an action plan for 750 tough neighbourhoods.

"I'll make proposals as early as this week," the weekly Journal du Dimanche quoted him as saying.

But it remained unclear what could stop the violence, though some opposition parties have suggested a symbolic measure -- the resignation of Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy.

Accused of stoking passions by calling troublemakers "scum", Sarkozy has ignored calls to quit. A survey published on Sunday indicated his public image was holding up, even if many disapproved of his strong language.

Villepin also has ambitions to be the right wing's presidential candidate in 2007 and has tried to position himself as a much more consensual figure than Sarkozy; the effect on the crisis on his ratings is still unclear.

With no end in sight to the nights of wailing sirens, acrid smoke, stone-throwing and destruction, residents from all ethnic backgrounds are tiring of the unrest.

"My kids can't sleep at night," said a mother named Samia in Aulnay-sous-Bois. "They hear explosions, they see fires and they think they're in a war. When the slightest thing happens, they get anxious and say 'Mama, what's going on?'"


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charlesmartel; france; insurgency; parisriots
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To: LikeLight
Yes, I heard that too about the morale. I'm reading a book on the Fall of France in 1940 and it's scary.

The French were so demoralized and their leaders were so weak. It was kinda depressing. And the Brits didn't fight well at all either.

It was the mention of morale that got me thinking of the book.

Where are the Muslim leaders, are they holding out for a better deal?
401 posted on 11/06/2005 1:11:48 PM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: Dane

http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/

Rioters to French people : take your Sabbath day and shove it up your ass

posted by U*2 @ 1:46 PM

The start of violence today came during Sunday afternoon just before the Presidential Cabinet crisis meeting at the Elysees Palace.


A City Hall annex building in Orléans and a police car were targeted by stone throwers. City Hall windows in the Argonne area of Orléans were smashed and a police patrol attacked by rock throwers.


Sunday afternoon a bus was torched in Saint-Etienne injuring two people (the bus driver and a passenger). Passengers were ordered out by a gang of youths but the bus was tocrched before everyone could get out. French TV reports that all bus transportation in Saint-Etienne is now halted.


402 posted on 11/06/2005 1:12:25 PM PST by LikeLight
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To: FreeReign
Ok, you win. It is a Jihadist Islamic conspiracy centrally controlled from somewhere. Now what?
403 posted on 11/06/2005 1:12:40 PM PST by Torie
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To: LikeLight

Gotta say about one thing about Ronald McDoanld, no matter the attacks against him(fire, rain, liberal attacks), he keeps on going. Hoorah!


404 posted on 11/06/2005 1:13:41 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: LikeLight

This is a War of Recruitment. The Islamofacist Terrorist Gang Masters know they can't acheive a strategic victory at this point in time. But what they can do is show their soldiers how powerful they all are, and how weak the enemy is. From there, serious army building, and serious strategic planning can proceed.


405 posted on 11/06/2005 1:13:48 PM PST by samtheman
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To: proud American in Canada
Where's Christiane Amanpour?

Yes, I've been asking all week, where is the notorious CNN Warslut?

406 posted on 11/06/2005 1:13:59 PM PST by LikeLight
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To: BurbankKarl

Beat up women, eh ? Some things never change. Scum they are indeed.


407 posted on 11/06/2005 1:14:01 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: samtheman
I personally believe it is a war of recruitment, designed to show the young savages that here is something they can do with their worthless idle lives. And that they can win.

Now, none of them will ever seek employment again--why would they? They can be part of a movement and be the people in power in the new France.

408 posted on 11/06/2005 1:14:14 PM PST by riri
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To: Dane
The deaths 10 days ago of two youths apparently fleeing police ignited pent up frustrations among young men, many of them Muslims of North and black African origin, at racism, unemployment, their marginal place in French society and their treatment by the police.

"Many youths have never seen their parents work and couldn't hold down a job if they got one," said Claude Chevallier, manager of a burned-out carpet depot in the rundown Paris suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois.

But authorities now say the rolling nightly riots are being organised via the Internet and mobile phones, and have pointed the finger at drug traffickers and Islamist militants.

So, which is it? Drug traffickers and Islamist militants or frustrated,unemployed and non-integrated (into the country of their birth) hoodlums?

I'm sorry, even though this is happening in France, it could be happening most anywhere in the western world. It's obvious to me these people's parents immigrated to France and brought their customs with them.

Let me be the first to buy these idiots a clue in that they aren't in the North and in Africa anymore. There's this strange concept called work which entails one showing up appropriately dressed, able to speak the language, have rudimentary skills, be able to get along with all different types of people and perform the work the boss instructs you to do. And yes, bunkie, you will not be the boss, you will have a boss, someone who tells you what to do, how to do it and when to do it. If you perform to the boss's satisfaction he will use a method called a paycheck to pay you for a job done. One word of caution, if you don't do your work correctly you are likely to find a pretty colored pink slip in the same envelope as your paycheck came in. The pink slip isn't there because they want to honor you or because someone decided they liked the color pink that particular week. The pink slip means "Good bye, don't come back, we didn't like the way you were doing the job we told you to do."

In all seriousness though, it's time to start eliminating vermin like these from our neighborhoods and cities. If they thought the country their parents immigrating from was so damned wonderful then send them back. Let them destroy their own backyards and leave ours alone. (and yes, when I say ours I'm also including the French)

It's obvious their tribal warfare does NOT work in the civilized world so send them back where they can annihilate themselves.

409 posted on 11/06/2005 1:14:48 PM PST by Sally'sConcerns (Native Texan, now in Ok.)
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To: Sally'sConcerns

Foxnews on this now...


410 posted on 11/06/2005 1:15:47 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life.)
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To: Dane

You're welcome!

I thought that "Isle" is an island in the Seine, that's why I was mistaken. I'll try to find a postable map.

10 pm, huh? The night is young...


411 posted on 11/06/2005 1:16:03 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: samtheman

Per Fox News 30 police injured(2 seriously) in the town of Grigny, 30 km south of Paris.


412 posted on 11/06/2005 1:16:41 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: proud American in Canada
Where's Christiane Amanpour?
Inside her Burka, waiting for her orders from Al Jezeera.
413 posted on 11/06/2005 1:16:46 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Liberty Valance

30 police officers injured - 2 shot - new riots in the afternoon....


414 posted on 11/06/2005 1:17:01 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life.)
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To: navysealdad

LOL!! I love the map!

This crap wouldn't last 2 minutes in my neighborhood. We don't call 911 in Texas.


415 posted on 11/06/2005 1:18:39 PM PST by AprilfromTexas
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To: Liberty Valance

More from...

http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/

As reinforcements are called into Paris, other French cities are seeing stepped up attacks. Authorities are not stating where reinforcements to Paris are coming from in order to not encourage attacks in other areas of France (now understaffed).

Attackers are more and more mobile and quickly adapting to police tactics.


416 posted on 11/06/2005 1:18:51 PM PST by LikeLight
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To: Liberty Valance

And it's only 10:15 at night there now.

Anyone know what time of night these riots are the "strongest"??? ( I feel like I'm talking about a weather event...geeeesh..)


417 posted on 11/06/2005 1:19:08 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: proud American in Canada
I thought that "Isle" is an island in the Seine

IIRC, that "Isle" is "Isle de Paris" an island on the Seine, . Where the Cathedral of Notre Dame is located, beautiful Cathedral, BTW.

419 posted on 11/06/2005 1:20:31 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: riri

Not that any of them ever wanted to work anyway. Unless selling drugs is work. Unless rape, murder, robbery and rape is work.

(I know. I said rape twice. They like rape.)


420 posted on 11/06/2005 1:21:47 PM PST by samtheman
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