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Thousand cars torched in latest French riots(Paris/France burns, Live Thread Night #11)
Reuters ^ | 11/06/05 | Elisabeth Pineau

Posted on 11/06/2005 5:07:47 AM PST by Dane

Thousand cars torched in latest French riots Sun Nov 6, 2005 12:17 PM GMT

By Elisabeth Pineau

PARIS (Reuters) - Gangs of youths torched 1,300 vehicles overnight in the 10th consecutive night of violence in Paris's poor suburbs and major French towns, despite the deployment of thousands of extra police.

Cars were burnt out in the historic centre of Paris for the first time on Saturday night. In the normally quiet Normandy town of Evreux, a shopping mall, 50 vehicles, a post office and two schools went up in flames.

Authorities have so far found no way beyond appeals and more police to address a problem with complex social, economic and racial causes.

Evreux mayor Jean-Louis Debre, a confidant of President Jacques Chirac and speaker of the lower house of parliament, told France Info radio:

"To those responsible for the violence, I want to say: Be serious ... If you want to live in a fairer, more fraternal society, this is not how to go about it."

The deaths 10 days ago of two youths apparently fleeing police ignited pent up frustrations among young men, many of them Muslims of North and black African origin, at racism, unemployment, their marginal place in French society and their treatment by the police.

"Many youths have never seen their parents work and couldn't hold down a job if they got one," said Claude Chevallier, manager of a burned-out carpet depot in the rundown Paris suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois.

But authorities now say the rolling nightly riots are being organised via the Internet and mobile phones, and have pointed the finger at drug traffickers and Islamist militants.

Overnight, 1,295 vehicles were torched across France, the highest total so far, police said. An extra 2,300 officers have been drafted in.

Seven police helicopters buzzed over the Paris region through the night, filming disturbances and directing mobile squads to incidents. Overnight, police made 349 arrests.

The number of incidents in the Paris region was similar to the night before, but in the provinces it was up sharply.

TARNISHED IMAGE

The violence has tarnished France's image abroad, forcing Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin to cancel a trip to Canada, while Russia and the United States have warned their citizens to avoid Paris's troubled suburbs.

Villepin has combined a call for an end to the riots with dialogue with community leaders, youngsters and local officials, and has promised an action plan for 750 tough neighbourhoods.

"I'll make proposals as early as this week," the weekly Journal du Dimanche quoted him as saying.

But it remained unclear what could stop the violence, though some opposition parties have suggested a symbolic measure -- the resignation of Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy.

Accused of stoking passions by calling troublemakers "scum", Sarkozy has ignored calls to quit. A survey published on Sunday indicated his public image was holding up, even if many disapproved of his strong language.

Villepin also has ambitions to be the right wing's presidential candidate in 2007 and has tried to position himself as a much more consensual figure than Sarkozy; the effect on the crisis on his ratings is still unclear.

With no end in sight to the nights of wailing sirens, acrid smoke, stone-throwing and destruction, residents from all ethnic backgrounds are tiring of the unrest.

"My kids can't sleep at night," said a mother named Samia in Aulnay-sous-Bois. "They hear explosions, they see fires and they think they're in a war. When the slightest thing happens, they get anxious and say 'Mama, what's going on?'"


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charlesmartel; france; insurgency; parisriots
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To: Spktyr

I wonder how we protect these cemeteries from desecration?


341 posted on 11/06/2005 12:04:53 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: GroupCommanderMandrake
DailyKos

???? and you check in here? Mandrake is a poison. makes me wonder how you will turn out.

342 posted on 11/06/2005 12:08:14 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Dane
Gangs of youths

WTF??

343 posted on 11/06/2005 12:08:23 PM PST by b4its2late (Age doesn't always bring wisdom. Sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: livius; longtermmemmory

The headline says Nights of rebellion of the wretched youths of France."

The article doesn't say much we haven't already seen. It should be in the English Edition tomorrow.


344 posted on 11/06/2005 12:08:47 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Dark Skies

Marines with rifles. It's not like you need anything else.


345 posted on 11/06/2005 12:09:24 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: samtheman

I bet 30 shot on sight and 300 deported for violating curfew in each neighborhood might be a better approach.


346 posted on 11/06/2005 12:11:38 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: benjibrowder
Pravda?

Do they preach "tolerance" toward Muslim terrorists in Moscow and points south?

I guess they figure France will lose so they better side with a winner. :-(
347 posted on 11/06/2005 12:12:20 PM PST by cgbg (Racism is identifying, quantifying, and determining social policy by race.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Here's a statement from +Demetrios regarding the attack:

"NEW YORK - Archbishop Demetrios of America has expressed his deepest sorrow and his strong and unequivocal condemnation for the most recent hostile demonstrations and threats against the holy center of world Orthodoxy, the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, in Istanbul, Turkey.

This latest assault took place last Thursday, October 28, when groups of Turkish nationalists and other extreme elements demonstrated in Phanar against the Ecumenical Patriarchate chanting slogans such as “one night we’ll come to the Phanar,” “go away Patriarch,” “Patriarch don’t test our patience,” “take the Patriarchate and go to Greece,” and the like. Before police intervened, the angry demonstrators reached the entrance to the Patriarchal compound, and placed a black wreath in front of the gate.

Archbishop Demetrios in his statement of condemnation said, “I express my deepest sorrow for the events that transpired outside of our Ecumenical Patriarchate last Thursday. The actions of these Turkish extremists-nationalists are appalling and condemnable in and by any civilized country. These are actions against a holy institution which survived and lives on through the centuries. It’s an institution highly respected by the entire civilized world. These demonstrators are short changing themselves and Turkey, as they paint a picture of uncivilized, petty, narrow-minded people.”

“As a Church and as Orthodox in America, we are in spirit and in prayer by the side of our Ecumenical Patriarchate, and we stand in full support with love and care towards our Mother Church as we are reassured that He Who has many times saved this Patriarchate and has protected it in difficult times will once again be next to our Ecumenical Patriarch and the Fathers of the Great Church of Christ and He will lead this crisis to a favorable result according to the teachings of our Lord, that God, ‘will not break a bruised reed, and smoking flax He will not quench, till He sends forth justice to victory’ (Matt. 12:20).”

Pres. Bush's (and Clinton's etc., etc., I know!) great friends, the Turks! :(


348 posted on 11/06/2005 12:12:33 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Spktyr

per Fox News



Three French policewomen severly beaten last night in Nice....calls for help were met with two hour response.

Police calling on armed forces intervention.


349 posted on 11/06/2005 12:15:54 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: mewzilla
Click here for a link to listening to French radio on the web.

Thank you!

I'm fluent in French but I'm used to the Canadian accent so I have to get used to it.

They just mentioned Villepin's "proposal".

Quartier La Madeline--100 cars and a shopping center.

Calling them "youths."

350 posted on 11/06/2005 12:18:15 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: BurbankKarl
Policewomen

The sight of policewomen is enough to send an Islamofascist over the edge.

If the French plan on nothing else they should at least keep their policewomen in the barracks.

Political correctness is hazardous to everyone's health.
351 posted on 11/06/2005 12:19:25 PM PST by cgbg (Racism is identifying, quantifying, and determining social policy by race.)
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To: proud American in Canada
Quartier La Madeline--100 cars and a shopping center

Is that tonight? And isn't Le madeline deep in the heart of Paris?

352 posted on 11/06/2005 12:21:22 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Selene

Ha!


353 posted on 11/06/2005 12:21:40 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: All

They just had some interviews with people in the Madeleine district--it looks like the citizens have been brainwashed by the French media as well. They all complained there was "nothing to do" for the "youths," nothing to "welcome them, to make them feel at home."

Not one mention of the religion of the "youth."


354 posted on 11/06/2005 12:21:48 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: proud American in Canada
They just had some interviews with people in the Madeleine district--it looks like the citizens have been brainwashed by the French media as well

Well for the most part french media is state controlled, kinda of like an uber BBC.

355 posted on 11/06/2005 12:24:43 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: olde north church

Roger that!


356 posted on 11/06/2005 12:26:14 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: proud American in Canada

Also, thank you for tuning into french radio for any news, very much appreciated.


357 posted on 11/06/2005 12:31:45 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: proud American in Canada

Thanks for the info! I don't suppose Villepaininthearse mentioned any specific actions that were going to be taken?


358 posted on 11/06/2005 12:34:27 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Kolokotronis

Thanks, I started a thread with this. Islam is now doing a "reverse crusade" it seems.


359 posted on 11/06/2005 12:40:16 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: bert

Almost a death however, one disabled woman was doused with Petrol and lit on fire a few nights ago while she sat in a bus. She barely escaped with her life. Also shots have been fired at police and firemen. It's amazing that there have been no deaths, frankly.


360 posted on 11/06/2005 12:40:37 PM PST by LibertyRocks (Updated Info on "Stoppered Vial" Case & OU Bombing... http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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