Posted on 11/05/2005 2:52:19 PM PST by ncountylee
In most instances a "proper retirement" would involve a firing squad. Perhaps they should crawl back under their rock.
How about their heads in a box?
Might be a good sign, no long term prospects with the other side.
First signs of the "ENTITLEMENT CULT"!
Nip it in the bud, shoot the barstards!
Yeah, be careful what you ask for, you just might get that "proper retirement."
You mean the NYT turned them down too? LMAO
The army was dissolved because the Shiites and Kurds demanded it as a condition to participating in the new government. He really didn't have any choice.
Have the hundred form their own little unit and put them at the front of any fighting to remove terrorist.
If they are willing to fight for Iraq, fine. If they are bad, you shoot them.
I know that hindsight is 20/20, but didn't it occur to Bremer or anyone else at Defense that dissolving the entire Iraqi army and leaving everyone in the country with military training at loose ends with no income might be a bad idea?
"How about their heads in a box?"
I couldn't have said it better. Our people have died to make sure America and WE are okay.. The #$%% with these guys.
By the time that was figured out, we had the insurgency. Then Bremer was replaced. Lots of mistakes are made in war. Look at WWI, WWII and Korea.
It's aggravating because it's so bloody obvious. We contacted them before the war, bribed some of them not to fight and promised that they'd either keep their jobs and/or get a generous retirement. Then we threw them out in the street during the equally idiotic "DeBaathafication" phase of the occupation.
Given how costly the Sunni insurgency has been, in the long run it might well have been cheaper to export the officers and their families to retirement homes in the Caribbean.
What I'm wondering now is if these bozos asking for pensions now are just homebodies who aren't connected to the Sunni insurgents, or if they're a stalking horse for the officers who did join the insurgency.
The first idea that comes to mind is to give them decent-paying jobs training troops in the new Iraqi Army and see where that leads.
I think that Gen. Shinseki had an idea that things were going to be a lot rougher than the Administration thought (hoped?), but he was forced into retirement in 2003 shortly after making his views public.
While I'm not going to adopt the Democrat talking-point that the Administration had "no plan" for the occupation, I will say that the plan that they had going in was inadequate and that I don't think that they adapted to the reality of what was going on in Iraq until it was too late to stop the insurgency.
Give them a new job digging up mass graves with their bare hands.
True, but the Kurds were (still are, I think) pro-American and while the Shiites don't have much use for us, they can count. In a democracy, Shiites will make-up the majority of the electorate. The Shiite plan was to simply wait us out and take over. And if we killed a few hotheads like al Sadr while we were at it, so much the better.
Don't be fooled by the alliance with the Kurds. There are different tribes with different loyalties. But in the long run, Kurds are only loyal to Kurds.
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