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Those Safe Liberal Crooks (Ted Byfield On Why Ontario Fears Western Canada Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 11/05/05 | Ted Byfield

Posted on 11/05/2005 4:33:20 AM PST by goldstategop

A federal judge proclaimed last week that in the final years of Canada's Chretien government, untold millions of dollars were channeled from the treasury into the bank accounts of the federal Liberal Party, several Liberal-friendly advertising agencies and a few senior party backroom gentry in Montreal. His report was viewed with alarm by the media, the politicians and the pundits – by everybody, it seemed, except the Canadian people.

They knew that already. They had gathered it conclusively from a report of the auditor-general three years ago, and reaffirmed it in the testimony of the sordid parade of Liberal insiders who spelled it out for days on end before Mr. Justice John Gomery's judicial inquiry. How much was effectively misspent or stolen, Gomery did not say. Unofficial estimates ran well over $50 million.

Even so, with the central facts already known, the Canadian people had returned the same Liberals to office under the new leadership of the present prime minister, Paul Martin. True, the government's majority was gone, but with the help of the socialist New Democratic Party it still clung to power by a single vote in the Commons last spring when the worst of the corruption became public.

Those disclosures briefly sank the Liberals' polled popularity down to the level of the rival Conservatives. Within two months, however, it was back up again – a full 10 percentage points ahead of the Conservatives, enough to return the Liberals to office with a safe majority.

The Gomery report does little more than officially establish what everybody already knew. So what difference is it likely to make in the election expected next February or March? The answer is none whatever, and the explanation is the political bent of the Ontario voter. He elects about one-third of the Commons, and he votes overwhelmingly Liberal. That was enough to determine the outcome of the last four Canadian general elections.

But why does he do this? Why this unfailing attachment to the Liberal Party? Most would agree that it's not his love of the Liberals. It's his fear of the Conservatives. More specifically, it's his fear of western Canada, which exerts the dominant influence in the Conservative Party.

"Time and again," said one western Tory last week, "Ontario has had to choose between the Liberal crooks and a westerner. Always they choose the crooks, and they'll do it again."

But in a way, their Liberal bent is understandable. For the Conservative Party under the leadership of the fastidious, studious and largely colorless Stephen Harper threatens sweeping structural changes in Canadian government. For instance, they would require that senators be elected rather than chosen by the prime minister. This would gradually change Canada's present pointless artifact Senate into something much closer to the American model and thereby make it a powerful body. That is, it could and no doubt would significantly amend legislation advanced by the government without bringing the government down. In so doing, Canada's legislative branch would actually legislate, rather than rubber stamp.

Moreover, the Tories would submit judicial appointments for Senate review and ratification, making it much more difficult to pack the court with ideologically driven judges. The Tories would restore to the provinces many of the functions taken over by the federal authority and thereby reduce the gargantuan federal civil service.

In short, the Conservatives would restructure Canada. And why should Ontario vote for that? All through the 20th century, Ontario has been winning the game. It has become the biggest, richest, most economically powerful province. So better the crooks than a westerner.

The first poll after the Gomery Report showed an electoral response much the same as the one that followed the disclosures of last spring – the Liberals had dropped to 31 percent and the Conservatives were at 30 percent. But the Martin government has four months to convince the public that the bad old days of "Chretienism" are gone. "The tone we must take is one of respect, one of regret," Martin told his party last week.

Thus the line: The whole Liberal Party has learned its lesson and will now abandon its errant ways. Under the guidance of the staunchly scrupulous Paul Martin – who was absolved by Gomery of any blame in the scandal – the party will now move pristinely forward.

Will Ontario buy this? You bet they will. Especially when the only other feasible option is those dangerous revolutionaries from the West. Why change the rules, when you're winning?


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adscam; alberta; canada; conservatives; gomery; jeanchretien; liberals; ontario; paulmartin; stevenharper; tedbyfield; westerncanada; worldnetdaily
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To: NZerFromHK; fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; ...
Another display of ignorance bordering upon racism.

Aside from half of your list pre-dating the primarily post-WWII Ukrainian immigration to Ontario* and additionally being comprised of roughly as many Scottish as English surnames (so much for your actually pre-Confederation 'Family Compact' theories), you've chosen to ignore an extensive list of Ukrainian-Canadians who've figured prominently as Ontario Cabinet Ministers over the past 4 decades.

Not surprisingly, given your on-going intellectual dishonesty - not to mention self-serving evasiveness when it comes to answering criticism - your definition of 'left' plainly becomes much more vague and/or forgiving depending upon which side of the equator you're focusing on.

Gotta hand it to you though, accusations of inbred colonial mentality coming from someone from Hong Kong actually tops the concept of a New Zealander lecturing anyone about the nanny state.

Plus, given that Canadians died defending Hong Kong from Japanese Fascism, your habitual sniping at us across many threads is completely unseemly.

* the wave(s) of Ukrainian immigration to Western Canada occurred mainly prior to WWI and immediately after it.
41 posted on 11/05/2005 8:37:06 PM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: NZerFromHK

Can you figure out what GMMAC is foaming at the mouth about? I can't.


42 posted on 11/05/2005 9:29:13 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (I hate hippies - Eric Cartman)
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To: Sam Gamgee

I can't either. Probably we have offended one of his sore points? ;-)


43 posted on 11/05/2005 10:19:00 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Alberta independentists to Canada (read: Ontario and Quebec): One hundred years is long enough)
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To: GMMAC
I avoid Buffalo because I find it full of numerous varieties of trashy, negative types. I go to Niagara Falls next door and, even though it's seemingly less economically well off, find lots of absolutely marvelous, friendly and openly patriotic Americans.

I won't dispute the description of Buffalo, but the people in Niagara Falls are not much different than those in Buffalo.

44 posted on 11/05/2005 10:40:03 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (A believer of Marxist ideology- Groucho, Chico, Harpo and the less talented Zeppo, that is.)
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To: Sam Gamgee; NZerFromHK; fanfan
Plainly one of you is being intentionally uncomprehending while the other must simply be clueless.

"NZerFromHK" - who tells us he's originally from Hong Kong and now apparently resides in New Zealand - has been bashing all Canadians across many threads for quite a while now and I'm hardly alone in being tired of it.

Someone residing in New Zealand is hardly in any position to engage in non-stop carping about Canada plus, given that Canadians died defending Hong Kong from Japanese fascism, such habitual sniping at us across many threads is completely unseemly.
45 posted on 11/06/2005 5:43:24 AM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: Sam Gamgee
A poll showed that 50% of BC viewers don't bother watching the CBC.

LOL.

You've got to be kidding!

50% of BC viewer WATCH CBC? You are surrounded by kool-aid drinkers and don't even know it.

In Ontario, during the 7 week CBC strike, no one even noticed except the left. Our viewer ship of the CBC is less than 10%.

BTW, guest speakers from Israel are protested everywhere they go, (Stupidly, IMO.) Have you perhaps not invited any speakers from Israel?

46 posted on 11/06/2005 6:20:40 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: Sam Gamgee; NZerFromHK; GMMAC; NorthOf45
Try reading his post again, or can't you understand truth, and facts?

Truth and facts are what conservatives use to debate, in case you weren't aware.

47 posted on 11/06/2005 6:51:21 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: NZerFromHK

I'm with GMMAC on this. And it's pretty clear what he's upset about, and he has good reason to be.


48 posted on 11/06/2005 8:10:30 AM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: NZerFromHK
Thanks. Also remember a majority of Canada supports Britain's Queen Elizabeth II as their head of state just because of anti-Americanism. Having the monarchy is the most un-US thing to do, and if I'm correct support of the monarchy in Canada is the highest in Ontario.

Nope. You're not correct on this one either.You don't know what you're talking about.


49 posted on 11/06/2005 9:52:06 AM PST by Snowyman
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To: NZerFromHK

>and if I'm correct support of the monarchy in Canada is the >highest in Ontario.

Ontario is the only province in Canada to use the Crown on license plates and highway signs.


50 posted on 11/06/2005 6:18:59 PM PST by rasblue
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To: fanfan
Well, the poll was not scientific whatsoever, just a radio poll. A lot of Canadians get their sports from CBC - but that may be all they watch.

Are you serious about the 10%? Is this the ongoing viewer ship of the CBC. I see tons of these "save the CBC" signs in Victoria.
51 posted on 11/08/2005 1:02:11 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (I hate hippies - Eric Cartman)
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