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Did 'revoked' living willkill communicative man?
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 4, 2005 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 11/04/2005 3:24:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser

Family members are investigating what they consider to be suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of a nursing home patient at the center of a life and death tug-of-war reminiscent of the Terri Schiavo tragedy.

Seventy-nine-year-old Jimmy Chambers died in the early morning hours of Oct. 24 after the tracheotomy tubes that deliver oxygen from a ventilator to a hole in his neck became unhooked. Family members were told Chambers, a resident of the Anne Maria Rehabilitation and Nursing Center in North Augusta, S.C., apparently pulled the interlocking tubes apart.

"We're having it investigated. We're just incredulous," Chambers' daughter, Deanna Potter, told WND in reference to her siblings. "The last time I saw dad he was blowing me a kiss. I blew him one and he blew one back."

The retired dispatcher for Holland Motor Express died approximately 10 hours later. His death certificate indicates he died of "natural causes."

"Apparently, suffocation is a 'natural cause' when you're on a ventilator. We're contesting that," said Potter. "He suffocated. He didn't just pass away. He struggled and fought. And I'm just so angry."

Potter estimates it would have taken 10 to 14 minutes for her father, deprived of oxygen, to fall unconscious, and questions why the nursing home staff didn't come to his aid.

"The oxygen-saturation meter and his ventilator both would have had alarms going off. Four-thirty, five o'clock in the morning you'd think someone would hear this," she added. "That's the thing that really bothers me and makes me suspicious."

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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; presently no screen name; Abby4116; Alissa; ..
BykrBayb opened a thread on this forum about to open in the heart of the area where they committed the atrocity on Terri Schindler Schiavo. This is the same area where infamous hospice sponsored the sinister deed and is a good indication of what may emerge. Anyone from the St. Pete area may have a powerful interest in attending.

End-of-Life forum to be presented at SPC Seminole Campus

Here is some of the handiwork not of Dr. Josef Mengele of Hitler's Germany, but happening right in Florida right in Greer country now.

This is an abstract of an experiment performed on humans by David A. Weiland, MD and others. All of the subjects of the experiment had a multitude of adverse reactions. The experimenters wrote it off as an allergic reaction.

Experiments

Hana Osman, Ph. D. biography. Her primary specialty is getting people to sign away their right to life. Her secondary specialty is experimenting on them.

Hana Osman's Bio

8mm


141 posted on 11/09/2005 4:03:07 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter; BykrBayb; DadsGirl; dixie sass; TheSecondSon; The in-law; kalintabby; old424
From The State.com, South Carolina's Home Page:

Living wills, anyone??

PHILADELPHIA - After three decades of urging Americans to write living wills, many doctors, lawyers and ethicists concede that these documents have largely failed.

The problems are many: Most people don't complete living wills. When they do, too often the paper isn't available when decisions about life support must be made.

Living wills, intended to assure that patients' wishes are honored when they can't speak for themselves, rarely address the actual situations that arise. And many people don't really know in advance what treatments they would or wouldn't want.

"The 30 years of literature on living wills has shown very disappointing results," said Charles Sabatino, assistant director of the American Bar Association's Commission on Law and Aging. "The shortcomings of living wills are real. Dying is just too complicated."

A blistering indictment of living wills appeared last year in the Hastings Center Report, a well-known bioethics journal.

It began: "Enough. The living will has failed and it's time to say so."

More on Living Wills

8mm

142 posted on 11/09/2005 4:15:48 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Do these people in North Platt, NE "get it"?

"Our role as attorneys is to help explain so people understand they have options," McCarthy said.

"In my opinion, taking care of this is a very nice gift to give to your family," McCarthy said. "If your family knows what you want, it makes something very hard a little easier."

Today, ethics committee members will be available to answer questions about the right to privacy. Sessions will be held from 9-11 a.m. and 1-3 p.m. at GPRMC. Thursday, the topic will be patient rights, and at three 3 p.m. there will be a presentation on topics related to ethics in health care.

Your right not to remain silent

8mm

143 posted on 11/09/2005 4:28:15 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: BykrBayb
Echoing your thread from post #141, here is Mary Tittle, PhD, RN biography

Mary Tittle

8mm

144 posted on 11/09/2005 4:33:46 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: tutstar
From BykrBayb's thread, see post #141, This is HANA OSMAN, wishing also to implant her creative ideas in St. Pete area heads.

Does dad need a nudge on planning?

8mm

145 posted on 11/09/2005 5:17:59 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; BykrBayb
Development of pulmonary infiltrates, cardiomyopathy, and eosinophilia may have occurred independent of zafirlukast use or may have resulted from an allergic response to this medication. We suspect that these patients may have had a primary eosinophilic infiltrative disorder that had been clinically recognized as asthma, was quelled by steroid treatment, and was unmasked following corticosteroid withdrawal facilitated by zafirlukast.

What the heck is eosinophilia? It sounds like these people volunteered to be guinea pigs to test a new drug. Hope they got paid a lot of money.

Dr. Osman sounds like a little ray of sunshine. Imagine the conversation at the dinner table when she's there. What ever you do, don't choke on your food around her.

146 posted on 11/09/2005 8:33:56 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: 8mmMauser
"In my opinion, taking care of this is a very nice gift to give to your family," McCarthy said. "If your family knows what you want, it makes something very hard a little easier."

And sure does help get one off the hook if there's any questions concerning that nice gift of a hefty life insurance. /s

147 posted on 11/09/2005 2:55:28 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: 8mmMauser; floriduh voter

Stupid Comments by Al Franken

He [Al Franken] skewers Republican leader Tom DeLay for saying proper medical care might have revived Schiavo as she remained in a vegetative state while politicians debated her fate.

"In other words, given proper treatment, there was no reason Terri Schiavo couldn't live out her lifelong dream of being a Rockette," Franken quipped.

Comedian Al Franken gets serious about politics

148 posted on 11/09/2005 4:13:43 PM PST by amdgmary (www.blogsforterri.com and www.terrisfight.org)
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To: amdgmary

Franken typifies the moronic reasoning of the far left, so enamored with supporting the cults of death they see humor in the suffering.

If this hero of Err Amerika can see humor in such a tragedy, he sees not his own evil.

8mm


149 posted on 11/09/2005 10:25:40 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

8MM, this makes my skin crawl. I was just a few miles from North Platte, in St. Paul, NE on the 8th, burying my Dad. Wish I had known about this, I would've shown up for it.


150 posted on 11/10/2005 2:36:46 AM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: DadsGirl

Strange coincidence..... I am sure your questions would not be the ones they expected.

8mm


151 posted on 11/10/2005 4:07:20 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; presently no screen name; Abby4116; Alissa; ..
News on the Scott Thomas case!!

Internet debate made the difference to the court!

excerpts:

In the eyes of the law, public figures are usually politicians or celebrities, who have limited rights to claim that they've been libeled or defamed, thanks to a 1964 ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Among other things, Cole said plaintiff Eliza Thomas had become a public figure because there had been "substantial public debate" regarding her and her husband on the internet.

.............

In the wake of the Terri Schiavo debate, which also took place in Florida, Thomas' case is controversial enough.

But there's a twist: The state attorney general's office is investigating whether Thomas had something to do with her husband's injuries, raising the prospect of criminal charges. Thomas claims her husband was injured when he tripped over a dog in the kitchen.

..............

"It's sort of judicial recognition of the importance of internet news," Gabel said. "It shows the power of individuals on the internet."

Judges often will look at media coverage to see if someone fits the criteria to be a public figure. But in the Thomas case, there hadn't been any traditional media coverage; only internet denizens had been involved.

Thomas update

8mm


152 posted on 11/10/2005 4:47:54 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter
"It's sort of judicial recognition of the importance of internet news," Gabel said. "It shows the power of individuals on the internet."

Something we wish for....

8mm

153 posted on 11/10/2005 4:51:10 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
But there's a twist: The state attorney general's office is investigating whether Thomas had something to do with her husband's injuries,

I still wonder if one of Michael Schiavo's girlfriends had a key to the apartment, and if she or some male friend of hers confronted Terri that night.

That could explain why Terri did not seem afraid of Michael in the early pictures of them together after the "event."

154 posted on 11/10/2005 5:04:13 AM PST by syriacus (The cold-heartedness of libs, toward the Iraqis's attempts for a better life, takes my breath away.)
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To: 8mmMauser

These crooked judges and lawyers won't be able to hide any longer.


155 posted on 11/10/2005 5:07:34 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: All; The in-law; kalintabby
Ping to the Scott Thomas case.

Here are some links to update any not familiar with the situation.

Olive Branch Press

Scott's website

8mm

156 posted on 11/10/2005 6:56:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All

Does anyone have any information- web site links- connecting Soros with the Hospice Foundation of America?

need dirt on Hospice Foundation of America- if there is any...


157 posted on 11/10/2005 6:54:33 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: 8mmMauser

Prayers for Haleigh and all concerned.


158 posted on 11/10/2005 9:40:07 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: MontanaBeth

"His mom was smart to take that hair sample.."

What is the hair sample for?


159 posted on 11/10/2005 9:43:45 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: Sun

He had been hospitalized in the proceeding months with undignosed stomach and health problems. His wife may have been poisoning him. His mother cut a hair sample, in the fall if I remember correctly and just sent it off to be tested.


160 posted on 11/10/2005 10:02:19 PM PST by MontanaBeth (Never under estimate the enemy.)
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