Posted on 11/04/2005 12:32:54 AM PST by Southack
PARIS RIOTS SPREADING 4.11.2005. 18:34:50
Rioting around Paris has worsened with gangs attacking police and firefighters in defiance of a government vow to crackdown on the violence, which has plagued the capital for over a week.
Fresh rioting broke out on the outskirts of Paris — in the city's poorest and mainly immigrant suburbs — for the eighth straight night on Thursday.
Around 1,300 police officers were mobilised in the north-eastern suburb of Seine-Saint-Denis, while more than 30 people were arrested in the area.
Buses, fire engines and police were stoned and five policemen were reported injured.
Police said more than 160 cars were torched overnight in the Paris region and 33 in the provinces, a day after around 315 vehicles were burnt in the city’s Ile-de-France region.
One of the worst incidents took place at Neuilly-sur-Marne where police vans came under fire from pellet pistols, but nobody was reported hurt.
A fire was started in a primary school in Stains, as police were targeted by a group of 30 to 40 people near a synagogue.
Paris firemen were called to fight a blaze at a carpet warehouse in Aulnay-sous-Bois in Seine-Saint-Denis.
Traffic was halted on a suburban commuter line which links Paris to Charles de Gaulle airport after stone-throwing rioters attacked two trains.
The clashes have gained territory every night since they began last Thursday, exposing what critics say is a failure of the government to address the problems of low-income, high-immigration suburbs where crime and gangs run rampant.
In a worrying sign similar rampages broke out elsewhere in France.
Police said several cars in the eastern city of Dijon were set alight, while similar attacks took place in the western Seine-Maritime region and the Bouches-du-Rhone in the south of the country.
Government defiant
French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, who cancelled a trip to Canada to tackle the crisis, said the violence was "unacceptable".
He vowed that authorities would not give in to the violence and would make restoring order their "absolute top priority".
"I will not allow organised gangs to make the law in the suburbs," he said.
President Jacques Chirac on Wednesday called for calm, warning that an escalation would be "dangerous".
The riots were sparked last week by the accidental electrocution of two teenagers who had hidden in an electrical sub-station to escape a police identity check in Clichy-sous-Bois.
A preliminary report released by the interior ministry on Thursday appeared to exonerate police of any direct role in the teenagers' deaths.
But as the unrest continued the opposition Socialist Party and many in the suburbs themselves blamed the hardline policies of Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy for fanning the violence.
Mr Sarkozy, who on Thursday said the total number of people arrested was over 140, vowed a "war without mercy" on crime and rebellious youths in the suburbs just before the rampages erupted.
The conservative minister, who has ambitions of running for president in two years, has drawn criticism for his tough rhetoric, especially for referring to delinquents as "rabble".
On Thursday, he claimed that recent rioting "was not spontaneous, it was perfectly organised — we are looking into by whom and how."
Low income suburbs
France has 751 neighbourhoods officially classed as severely disadvantaged, housing a total of five million people, around eight percent of the population.
The recent violence has exposed simmering discontent in those suburbs where African and Muslim immigrants and their French-born children are trapped by poverty, unemployment, racial discrimination, crime and poor education and housing.
Unemployment is these areas is often twice the national rate of 10 percent, and per capita incomes 40 percent below the national average.
Thursday night was the end of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan, a night traditionally marked by feasts and family get-togethers.
More fresh info/commentary just posted on no-parasan blog:
Friday, November 04, 2005
The night is still young, hang on
posted by U*2 @ 4:51 PM
Already this evening ...
A bus was vandalised and fired on with real bullets in Sarcelles (which is, like, my fave place in the whole world). A supermarket was attacked in Montmagny and an underground parking torched in Persan. In Fougères, firemen providing first aid in a housing project were trapped in an apartment and pelted with rocks. Their attackers then proceeded to torch the ambulance meant to evacuate the injured party.
In the Paris area other incidents are reported in Aulnay-sous-Bois, Clichy-sous-Bois and Saint-Denis, and in the north of France cars are being burned in Lille.
How's that dialogue thing going Mr. Vilepine? Getting anywhere with that?
They have to unite and mobilize as many of their 1 billion followers as they can, if they hope to ever be more than petty terrorists. They do this by formenting trouble with the west whereever they can. The more countries they can make Muslim's feel oppressed in, the more the muslims will unite.
They believe they have enough followers that they can fight wars of attrition. But they are losing the popular support against America. They are having trouble attacking America and England directly. And they are losing the war of attrition in Iraq and afghanistan.
So opening a front in France might not be such a bad idea. You have a show of force in a major western capital, a lot of coverage. And you get more recruits. You increase the alienation of Muslims worldwide.
If European culture is to survive in the long run, it will be up to you and your patriotic compatriots-- and your governments will be your strongest enemies, not the moslems.
You can begin to grasp the nature of the challenge history is about to deal to you by reading extensively as possible about the American Revolution and the men who made it happen. Europe needs desperately to come up with a George Washington, a Sam Adams, a Thomas Paine, and so many others.
If they did that they would not be French.
France is the only defeated country in history that insisted the victors demand terms of unconditional surrender. The rioting will stop when:
(1)France converts Notre Dame Catherdral into a mosque.
(2)France agrees to turn the Eiffel tower into a minaret and broadcast Muslim prayers five times a day.
(3) France destroy all art and artifacts glorifying Western Infidel Culture in the Louvre. In other words burn it down.
(4) And finally, France must rename the country to: "Great Islamic Republic of France."
Just as soon as the terrorists can hand a copy of these surrender terms to the French the frogs will sign it and the rioting will end. At least for a while. I think the terrorist will demand a couple million beheadings in the near future. (sarcasm, but just barely)
I could not agree more. I would add one more to the enemy list your MSM.They are in denial. Denial as someone else pointed out is a form of sickness.The Euro press has invested so much in multi culturalism they are unwilling to cut their losses.
the europeans also need to do one more thing - have more children, fast.
Unbridled horsesh*t.
By that logic Kerry would have made a fine president, because he had war experience.
While I don't believe the french will simply roll over, and while I do know that some of their semi independent police agencies are pretty darn effective, I don't believe for one second that Chirac would do "the right thing" any more than I trusted Slick Willie to.
We could really use a source for this. If true, this totally trumps the bogus "poverty did it" excuse that's already taken hold.
Are you kidding??
That isn't part of their agenda for change.
The whole idea of multi cultural nonsense is to end the western worlds lock on the values that made it great.
This will of course, drag us down to the lowest common denominator, but thats the fair thing to do, right? - It's war, baby.
The source doesn't matter. Either the riots spread to the 700 French cities tonight as per the chatter, or else they don't.
If they don't, then the rumor was false. If they do, then we can further pursue it.
You'll know tonight.
Of course they have and that fits right into the whole idea of ending Western and Christian asendency in the modern world.
The Ivory Coast knows better than to trust weasels.
I pray for Europe, too. France is going to have a difficult time with these groups, since French society is so closed to outsiders. When these riots happened in the 1980s, the government made a few minor reforms but basically looked the other way. Now, with the Islamofascists embedded in their country, these riots are potential tinder to a larger fire. I'm praying for the cops and for some politicians to begin the process of tearing down the towers and integrating their population. I sure hope it's not too late.
do the french police not carry guns or what?
Not necessarily. It could just mean that they've failed to carry out Ahmadijine's wishes.
Failure is one of the few things muslims are quite good at.
Why not? The Parisians, note that I did not write, "the French," invented mass death by beheading, and carried it out in a very methodical manner.
It won't be as easy here. IIRC it was old Walt Whitman who described the "basic American soul" - "hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer." Not many Comanche raids lately...
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