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This is depressing... for those that think it doesn't matter, it will directly affect how much he can get through Congress. Look at this on the the economy. How is it that we can have 3.8% GDP, but yet these number...?

"Just 35 percent of those surveyed rated the economy as either excellent or good, with 65 percent describing it as not so good or poor. "

1 posted on 11/03/2005 4:42:28 PM PST by ruschpa
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Polls, bleah! Too many ways to weight them so the pollsters get the answers they want,not to mention getting a representative sample of Amercans' opinions.


2 posted on 11/03/2005 4:44:52 PM PST by Theresawithanh (You'll get me to stop posting on FR when you wrench my laptop from my cold, dead fingers!)
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YOU ask...."How is it that we can have 3.8% GDP, but yet these number...?

Lazy, i.e. Stupid Americans....brought to you by your PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM

3 posted on 11/03/2005 4:45:12 PM PST by goodnesswins (DEMS....40 yrs and $$$dollars for the War on Poverty, but NOT a $$ or minute for the WAR on Terror!)
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The old media may be sick, but it's not dead and gone. And scare-mongering, making crises out of thin air, exploiting biases and weaknesses - it's what keeps them going on. Very sad and disheartening.


4 posted on 11/03/2005 4:45:38 PM PST by SuzyQue
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It is both ironic and surprising that the one bright spot in this poll is the President's nomination of Samuel Alito, Jr. That is indeed, good news.
5 posted on 11/03/2005 4:47:33 PM PST by Cagey (Some men are Baptists, others Catholics, my father was an Oldsmobile man.)
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"Just 35 percent of those surveyed rated the economy as either excellent or good, with 65 percent describing it as not so good or poor. "

If you poll a bunch of democrats, the results are not surprising. Always consider the source of the poll.

7 posted on 11/03/2005 4:48:00 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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These polls mean nothing until you read the demographics. In the AP poll out this evening, they weighted the poll so that 38% of the respondents were Republican and 50% were Democrat. In the CBS poll yesterday it was even worse. You MUST realize that the only news the media can completely manipulate anymore is their own polling data. So they do. And they create "great" headlines using clearly fraudulent data. It is a lie. And it is one more reason the old media is going the way of the dinosaur.
8 posted on 11/03/2005 4:48:53 PM PST by Rokke
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9 posted on 11/03/2005 4:49:13 PM PST by Colonial Warrior (You can't tell how good a man or a watermelon is 'til they get thumped. Character shows when tested)
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Another thread points out that ABC oversampled democrats by 12%.

Party Indetification: For the respondents asked later in the survey, the results were 38% Republican, 50% Democrat
11 posted on 11/03/2005 4:51:15 PM PST by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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Democrats win polls. Republicans win elections.


12 posted on 11/03/2005 4:52:06 PM PST by Dog Gone
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Bush's Integrity Is Questioned, According to Post-ABC Poll

This is from the WaPo & ABC, it's highly questionable if the poll was fair to begin with, and further if the results have been fairly portrayed.

14 posted on 11/03/2005 4:52:42 PM PST by RJL
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The leftist media has done their job for the democrats well.


21 posted on 11/03/2005 5:02:49 PM PST by ladyinred ("Progressive" = code word for Communist/Nazi)
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the integrity

What is this? Is a person not allowed to evolve as his understanding increases, and must a person hold the same views as everybody else on everything? The president is heavily constrained in what he can say simply because he holds office. When he is out to pasture, we might get some of what he really thinks.

22 posted on 11/03/2005 5:03:19 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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This is depressing... for those that think it doesn't matter,

They stacked the poll to get the result they wanted. It's posted right here on FRee Republic:

Biased ABC/Post Poll Oversample Democrats over Republicans by 11 Points: 52% Dem., 41% Rep., 6% Ind>

I hope that helps.

24 posted on 11/03/2005 5:04:43 PM PST by Mister Baredog ((Conservatives don't want judicial "litmus tests", unless THEY supply the test that is))
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... according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

No bias here ... come'on folks these people have been outed ... most Americans get it ... they don't, and keep digging a deeper & deeper hole.

27 posted on 11/03/2005 5:06:09 PM PST by BluH2o
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Is this the poll where only 24% of those polled were Republicans?

If so, the MSM needs to be exposed.


30 posted on 11/03/2005 5:10:37 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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This "poll" is explained in a later thread - heavily dem (over 50%) with fewer Republicans.


31 posted on 11/03/2005 5:14:11 PM PST by hsalaw
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Just take "Poll" out of the headline - that would make it reasonably accurate.
36 posted on 11/03/2005 5:28:49 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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It is only depressing if you let it --- President Bush will continue on his path - there will be no 'poll watching' no 'legacy watching' - so let the MSM continue on with this crap. They make up lies!!!

Read post # 26 --- BAISED AP

39 posted on 11/03/2005 5:50:56 PM PST by malia (Marc Rich surfaces again -- this time in the Oil For Food Scandal)
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"...it will directly affect how much he can get through Congress."

Actually, that depends upon the RINOS on our side growing some cahones, which I don't see happening anytime soon. They're fat and lazy. And most of them don't care, either.

As for the American People? They're busy watching "American Idol" or "Fear Factor" or whatever other TV show is "hip" this week.

Trust me. Peeps on FR and those that listen to Rush and a few other outlets are the ONLY ones who care, and the only ones who are NEVER polled.

Have you been polled? Ever? I haven't. No one in my family of staunch Republicans has ever been polled.

ABC is full of it. Don't sweat it. Just WORK locally and THINK locally. If you have any DemonRats in your local government positions, work like h#ll to get rid of them come '06, '07 and '08. If you and your friends are organized, it shouldn't be that hard as they're in Full-Destruct Mode now. You can tell by the way they throw these bogus "polls" out to the Sheeple. ;)


46 posted on 11/03/2005 6:24:13 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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Aw Geez, Not These Crappy Polls Again. Alright, Once More Into The Breach
Posted by bulldogpundit on Friday, 04 November 2005 (00:27:40) EST
Contributed by bulldogpundit

The MSM is positively orgasmic over 3 new polls - yes, 3, showing President Bush's approval numbers in the crapper. Gee, do you think that is the reason Reid decided to pull his little stunt this week, and the rest of the lefties got beer muscles and decided to throw sand in the President's eye?

But once again, it is up to us here at ABP to show you why these polls are utterly meaningless when it comes to predicting what voters will do come 2006.

Click READ MORE to continue.

First, the 3 doom and gloom polls.

From The Washington Post: Approve-38% Disapprove-60%

From AP/Ipsos: Approve-37% Disapprove-58%

From CBS News: Approve-35% Disapprove-57%

We're going to forego the usual factors of weekend polling, age and income level of respondents, etc., and just go to party ID of respondents, after telling you that the polls are of "adults", not even "registered voters" or even "likely voters".

Let's just remind you that in 2004 the exit polls showed the party ID of voters at 37% Republicans and Democrats

So, let's get to the numbers shall we.

Party ID of The Washington Post poll respondents: Independent-38% Democrat-31% Republican-27% (Lean- Democrat 52% Republican-41% Independent-6%)

Party ID of AP/Ipsos poll respondents: Democrat-49% Republican-40% Independent 9%

Party ID of CBS News poll respondents (weighted): Independent-41% Democrat-35% Republican-24%

Ok folks, does anything more really need to be said?

UPDATE: Tom Elia of The New Editor shows this kind of imbalance in polls has been going on since July.

http://www.anklebitingpundits.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2597


48 posted on 11/04/2005 6:26:58 AM PST by frankjr
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