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Still Great News in the Battleground Poll
Intellectual Conservative ^ | 11-03-05 | Bruce Walker - Commentary & Analysis

Posted on 11/03/2005 2:53:40 PM PST by smoothsailing

 

Still Great News in the Battleground Poll

by Bruce Walker

03 November 2005

Conservatives are winning, and winning convincingly, the ideological battle for the hearts and minds of Americans.

I have written articles soon after the various Battleground Polls have come out over the last three years.  People trained, like the dull, illiterate drones in Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, are accustomed to acquiring information only from images, with tools like bright colors replacing, as much as possible, the precise data of words and of numbers.  These dullards are also conditioned to believe that if information is important, it will be presented in a pie graph or line chart.

This, of course, is nonsense.  Give me an ideological agenda and I will give you a statistical image to prove that point -- which is something that I have been pointing out in a series of articles over the last several years as soon as the Battleground Poll is released.  Nothing has changed.

Read the Battleground Poll website itself (to say nothing of the even more skewed lurid descriptions by the mainstream media describing the horrible problems that conservatives face in the election a year from now.)  Perhaps it helps the reader for me to quote from my past articles.  My text, drawn from the guts of the data, shows the true picture of America and the trend of that electorate.

This is the foundation from which silly, ad hoc questions about transitory opinion regarding particular issues, political figures or political parties ought to derive.  The reason for this disconnection between profound political facts and ephemeral polling data is that conservative politicians, parties and pundits panic too easily. 

Go to the Battleground Poll and skip down through all the flashy and alarming graphs and charts.  Skip also the approval of the parties to handle problems, the highly volatile intention now -- a year before the general election! -- as well.  Ignore the popularity of a second term president nearing the second half of his second term:  no president, Reagan, FDR or Eisenhower has done well, personally, at this point in his presidency.

The results also show progress, not a malaise.  The problem is that this good news, better with each Battleground Poll, is ignored.  It is not used, as it should be used, to win battles and permanently shift the balance of ideological power in America.  All of the muscle to win the battles exists; it simply needs to be rallied to clear and unapologetic causes. Does this sound overly rosy?

Consider that in June 2002, in the salient question D3 of the poll, fifty-nine percent of the American people called themselves "conservative" or "very conservative," while thirty-five percent of Americans called themselves "liberal" or "very liberal."  Excluding those who called themselves "moderate" or expressed "no opinion," conservative voters constituted about sixty-one percent of the voters. 

In September 2003, the percentage of Americans who called themselves "conservative" or "very conservative" was fifty-nine percent, while the number of Americans who called themselves "liberal" or "very liberal" remained at precisely thirty-five percent – a gap between conservatives and liberals of twenty-four percentage points.  Excluding the few Americans who called themselves "moderate" or had no opinion, conservatives had the same whopping sixty-one percent majority.

One year later, in September 2004, the percentage of Americans who called themselves "conservative" or "very conservative" had risen slightly to sixty percent, while the number of Americans who considered themselves "liberal" or "very liberal" had dropped to thirty-four percent -- leaving exactly the same gap between conservative and liberal of twenty-four percentage points.

Given all the doomsday pundits -- both of the Right and of the Left -- one might expect that the brand new Battleground Poll would show big changes.  There were changes, but not in the way that pundits would expect. 

The number of Americans who call themselves "conservative" or "very conservative" increased by two percentage points to sixty-one percent, as high as it has ever been in any Battleground Poll.  Now sixty-one percent of Americans consider themselves "conservative" or "very conservative," while, again, precisely thirty-five percent of Americans consider themselves "liberal" or "very liberal" -- the gap between conservatives and liberals has actually widened by two full percentage points.

That, however, is only part of the good news for conservatives.  The good news -- the great news, really -- is what has happened to the intensity of American political opinion and the direction of that intensity.  The number of people who call themselves "moderate" or express "no opinion" or "do not know" has dropped from the six percent or seven percent in past polls to only four percent today.  Where have these people been going?

In 2002, the number of Americans who considered themselves "strongly conservative" was fifteen percent; in 2004 the number of Americans who considered themselves "strongly conservative" had risen to seventeen percent; the latest Battleground Poll shows that the number of Americans who considered themselves "strongly conservative" has risen to twenty-one percent, almost three times as many Americans as there are who consider themselves "strongly liberal." 

Conservatives are winning, and winning convincingly, the ideological battle for the hearts and minds of Americans.  The number of conservatives and strong conservatives is growing, and the number of liberals is shrinking.  What America needs right now is a political battle in which the lines are clear.  If we have that, conservatives will win.  The Battleground Poll numbers show an unmistakable, steady and compelling shift to a big conservative majority.  It is time we used that majority to change America.  

Bruce Walker's articles can be found at the Conservative Truth.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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To: xcamel

And Cleveland, not to be outdone, voted THRICE! Still didn't help the Surrender Monkey from Massachusetts.


21 posted on 11/03/2005 3:35:08 PM PST by ssaftler
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To: Carry_Okie

Not in 2004....both bases were pretty equally mobilized. I work in Philadelphia and it was literally a zoo. I'm assuming a similar situation occurred in other Blue states as well. Not many lines but oddly enough, Philly voted at 100% of registered voters, with 80% going to Kerry. Except for Philly and one or two suburbs, and Allegheny County which encompasses Pittsburg, the rest of the state is pretty strongly Red. In those areas, there were lines in which people waited for hours (I guess the reason that there weren't lines in the city is that dead people don't have to wait.)


22 posted on 11/03/2005 3:35:55 PM PST by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: COEXERJ145
And Bush came within the same number of votes of winning 5 or 6 more states.

Still closer than the number above would indicate.

23 posted on 11/03/2005 3:36:14 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: smoothsailing

The number of Americans who call themselves "conservative" or "very conservative" increased by two percentage points to sixty-one percent, as high as it has ever been in any Battleground Poll.



Interesting..... Now I wonder how this compares with exit polling done of those who actually voted?


24 posted on 11/03/2005 3:37:16 PM PST by deport
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To: Carry_Okie
How do these numbers explain John Kerry coming within 60,000 votes of winning an election?

Did Kerry actively campaign as a Liberal? NO. His whole campaign, backed up by a Billion dollar free advertising campaign in the Dinosaurs Media, was based wholly on "Hate Bush always". All his plans were "secret". He never actually came out and said what HE would do.

25 posted on 11/03/2005 3:37:43 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Merry Alitomas!)
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero
Philly voted at 100% of registered voters, with 80% going to Kerry.

Imagine that. The Slave Party must really have command of the numbers in order not to exceed the limit.

Just think: if they were as good at running a government or a business as they are at manufacturing votes those thugs might be in power.

26 posted on 11/03/2005 3:39:40 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Did Kerry actively campaign as a Liberal? NO.

That was so patently transparent that you would have to assume people were too stupid to see through it.

27 posted on 11/03/2005 3:40:41 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Philly is a world unto itself, in many ways even worse than NYC. After all, our current mayor's numbers went up AFTER it was disclosed that the Feds had bugged his office.


28 posted on 11/03/2005 3:49:23 PM PST by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: deport
I guess if there's a message here it's although 61% consider themselves conservative many of them don't vote Republican.

This is the paradox the Republican Party must deal with, will they attempt to expand their base by becoming more conservative or to try to attract "moderates"(whatever that means) and "liberals" ( a fool's errand).

29 posted on 11/03/2005 4:13:01 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: uncbob

W's administration does a very VERY poor job in defending itself. If the Bush administration had a better marketing strategy, he would sit at 60% approval. There's no good reason for the Iraq war to be in doubt popular approval wise, there's no good reason for Social Security reform to be D.O.A., there's no good reason for school vouchers to be improbable politically. Bush just doesn't fight for his policies or his administration, he and Rove are just enamored w/ the rope a dope strategy, yet at some point these things need to be *solved*. Social Security, standards in education, energy independence, you have to hit back in order to solve these problems.

Plus, we can mock Kerry's liberal record, but he desperately tried to run as a centrist, and probably came off as such to at least a million voters who voted for him.


30 posted on 11/03/2005 5:15:35 PM PST by 0siris
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To: 0siris

Can't argue with your evaluation of the Bush Administration at all

Maddening ain't it


31 posted on 11/03/2005 5:20:41 PM PST by uncbob
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero
Except for Philly and one or two suburbs, and Allegheny County which encompasses Pittsburg, the rest of the state is pretty strongly Red.

If that is the case, then allowing Philly wardheelers to hijack the election in that manner just made all you red voters irrelevant.

32 posted on 11/03/2005 5:24:58 PM PST by thulldud (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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To: smoothsailing

I guess if there's a message here it's although 61% consider themselves conservative many of them don't vote Republican.



If it's truly 61% then many of them don't vote at all if exit polling is any indicator.

The exit polling for 04 showed that the party breakout was 37% D/R and 26% I. Ideology went Conservative 34%, Moderate 45% and Liberal 21% with 15% of the Conservatives voting for Kerry. White evangelical Christians were 23% of the voting group with 21% voting for Kerry.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html


33 posted on 11/03/2005 5:27:08 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
Thanks.

That's some sobering info in the tracking poll. The Republicans obviously have work to do.

34 posted on 11/03/2005 5:41:40 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: thulldud

Yes, it did. And year after year after year, the Republican party just turns their head and shrugs, puts up the same candidate (Sam Katz has run for mayor the last two elections), does no detectable voter outreach (until maybe 2 months before the election. That last one is actually the killer, I think. The Republican Party in Pennsylvania (but also I think nationally, as well) regards voter outreach as something only to be done at election time. While it's true that election time is when most people pay attention to the issues, the time in between is when you need to be laying all the groundwork and actually educating people about how you're supposedly different from the other party or parties. The Philadelphia vote is one reason that Ed Rendell is Governor at the moment (another being that the Republicans ran a candidate who would have made Al Gore seem animated!)


35 posted on 11/03/2005 7:10:10 PM PST by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: Carry_Okie
How do these numbers explain John Kerry coming within 60,000 votes of winning an election?

You mean if Kerry would have won Ohio where President Bush won by 118000 votes.

With this logic President Bush would have won PA if he got 75000 votes more, and WI if he got 6000 votes more, and MN if he got 5000 votes more. This is a total 41 electoral votes compare to Ohio 20 electoral votes. In fact MN and WI together have the same electoral votes as Ohio.

36 posted on 11/03/2005 7:27:32 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: jveritas
With this logic President Bush would have won PA if he got 75000 votes more...

Your point is immaterial my questioning the content of the article, and in fact reinforces what I was saying: Were the fraction of self-professed "conservatives" as high as is indicated in the article, the election would not have been as close as it was.

37 posted on 11/03/2005 7:35:27 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: IronJack
It all comes down to this: do you want a nice guy who lies to you, or a ba$tard who tells you the truth?

Succint.

38 posted on 11/03/2005 7:36:53 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: smoothsailing

BUMP


39 posted on 11/03/2005 7:38:43 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: IronJack

That's an excellent analysis - - quick and to the point.
Liberals do have an easier sell - - "free" stuff for everybody except "the rich".
Is it any wonder they like to control the education mafia?


40 posted on 11/03/2005 7:41:41 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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