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Seventh night of Paris violence
BBC ^ | Nov. 3, 2005 | None

Posted on 11/02/2005 6:58:10 PM PST by untenured

Violence has flared for a seventh night in immigrant communities to the north-east of Paris.

Youths in several areas have been roaming the streets with sticks and bottles and dozens of vehicles have been set alight during the night.

The unrest came after ministers held crisis talks on the situation and the president appealed for calm.

Violence broke out following the death of two teenagers. Locals say they were fleeing police, which authorities deny.

On Wednesday night police clashed with youths in nine areas of the Seine-Saint-Denis department - where the violence began last week.

A school and shops have also been damaged.

Political 'rebuke'

The prime minister and interior minister have delayed trips abroad to try to calm the unrest.

Late on Wednesday Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin summoned ministers to a meeting, from which no details have emerged.

However, he told parliament a disruptive minority should not be confused with the majority, who want to integrate.

"Let's avoid stigmatising areas," he said.

"Let's... avoid confusing a disruptive minority with the vast majority of youngsters who want to integrate into society and succeed."

Correspondents say Mr de Villepin's comments were a rebuke to his political rival, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, who has called the rioters "scum".

Mr Chirac warned earlier of a "dangerous situation".

"The law must be applied in a spirit of dialogue and respect," he said.

Social problems

Dozens of vehicles have been torched and more than 30 arrests have been made since the violence began last week.

Unrest flared in Clichy-sous-Bois after two teenage boys of North African origin were electrocuted on Thursday at an electricity sub-station.

Local people insist they were fleeing from police and scrambled in to hide. Police say they were not chasing the boys.

An official investigation is under way.

Clichy saw five successive nights of confrontation between police and young people from the mainly north African Muslim communities in the north-eastern suburb.

Correspondents say anger grew after a tear gas canister was hurled into a mosque in Clichy on Sunday night. Emotions have also been fuelled by mass arrests.

Unemployment and social problems are rife in many of France's poorer suburban areas.

In recent days there have also been incidents involving groups of youths in other departments near Paris - including the Val-d'Oise, Seine-et-Marne, Hauts-de-Seine and Yvelines.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: beurs; eurabia; france; parisriots; rop
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To: pangaea6
Maybe we should get NATO to bomb France like we did in Bosnia to protect the Muslims.

I'm Always embarrassed and deeply sad when somebody post something like this... we helped the enemy to further oppressed our Christian brothers in the Balkans... it's the truth though.

21 posted on 11/02/2005 7:43:28 PM PST by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: ChristianDefender

Did you not note the sarcasm at the end of my post? I'm well aware of what Clintoon did.
At least by being in France, these folks can't be over in Iraq blowing themselves up.


22 posted on 11/02/2005 7:49:53 PM PST by pangaea6
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To: conservative in nyc

It finally ran in the pathetic Tennessean this morning with no mention whatsoever that these rioting youths are Muslim. Zip.


23 posted on 11/02/2005 7:53:55 PM PST by fullchroma
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To: fullchroma

Wonder when the welfare checks go out in France? That might stop the riots, it has in the US.


24 posted on 11/02/2005 7:58:07 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: pangaea6

Yeah I saw it... dont worry i was not meant to be for you... it's the tragedy itself we caused against our brothers...


25 posted on 11/02/2005 8:02:27 PM PST by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: untenured
NPR was so funny this afternoon. Not once did they mention the MUSLIM/ISLAM connection to the riots in their story about the poor disenfranchised youths rioting. If you read the WSJ article/editorial today on why it explains a lot
26 posted on 11/02/2005 8:02:53 PM PST by jmq (Islam=Religion of Peace)
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To: Ax

If you give me your zip code I can give you the elevation, azimuth and directions how to point your dish.


27 posted on 11/02/2005 8:09:03 PM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Ax

If you give me your zip code I can give you the elevation, azimuth and directions how to point your dish.


28 posted on 11/02/2005 8:09:22 PM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: untenured

Is Paris melting?...


29 posted on 11/02/2005 8:10:24 PM PST by FDNYRHEROES (Liberals are not optimistic; they are delusional.)
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To: untenured
More Reports Here
30 posted on 11/02/2005 8:15:48 PM PST by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: untenured

"The BBC just reported that tonight a police station was briefly taken over, a car showroom was set on fire, two schools were damaged, and police vans were stoned, had gasoline thrown at them and had to retreat."

Any charactarization on how large the crowds of rioters are? Hundreds, thousands?


31 posted on 11/02/2005 8:16:32 PM PST by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: adamsjas
But did they mention the M word? I'm guessing not.

I'm not sure. They might have mentioned that since unemployment in the area is over 66% in some places, it has become a hotbed of extremism. I do know that they interviewed some liberal Frenchwoman talking about the need to provide the rioters with educational opportunities.
32 posted on 11/02/2005 8:22:45 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Owl558

"Roving gangs." I didn't get the sense it was like Watts in 1965, but the rioters were basically able to throw Molotov cocktails at cops, assault buildings and then move on at will.


33 posted on 11/02/2005 8:25:08 PM PST by untenured (http://futureuncertain.blogspot.com)
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To: soltice

Thank you very much for linking to that blog. The translation of the article RE: Denmark Riots is astounding! This definitely does not look good at all...


34 posted on 11/02/2005 8:31:17 PM PST by LibertyRocks (OU Bombing Summary and more... http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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To: untenured

Hmmm..."Roving gangs" able to occupy police buildings...

I'm sure al-Queda is sitting up and taking notice. Remember how they concluded that the US was weak because of our withdrawll from Somalia? What will they conclude about France?


35 posted on 11/02/2005 9:13:56 PM PST by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: Juan Medén

"Good thing they stayed out of Iraq or those Muslim youths would really be mad"

Appeasement + liberalism = NO JUSTICE.... NO PEACE


36 posted on 11/02/2005 9:36:11 PM PST by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: Americanwolf

Exactly....


37 posted on 11/02/2005 9:40:40 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Conservatives are from earth. Liberals are from Uranus.)
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To: untenured
At this point any politician who allows the large scale immigration of Islam into a Western Country is a traitor. The bureaucrats who "just follow orders" and carry out such policies are guilty as well.
38 posted on 11/02/2005 9:48:02 PM PST by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: untenured

Muslim rioters, coming to a city near you.


39 posted on 11/02/2005 10:15:49 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: untenured
"Unrest flared in Clichy-sous-Bois after two teenage boys of North African origin were electrocuted on Thursday at an electricity sub-station."

"Local people insist they were fleeing from police and scrambled in to hide. Police say they were not chasing the boys."

I don't understand why it matters if police were chasing them or not.
40 posted on 11/02/2005 10:19:41 PM PST by Razz Barry
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