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Friendly sitcom nods past '80s (LONGING FOR THE LOST LIBERAL GOLDEN AGE)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | November 2, 2005 | DOUG ELFMAN TELEVISION CRITIC

Posted on 11/02/2005 10:33:42 AM PST by Chi-townChief

In tonight's episode of Fox's "That '70s Show," almost everybody gets stoned. Again. That's how you can tell "That '70s Show" is still stuck in the spirit of the "Me Decade." If the characters were to live it up '80s-style, they'd all be snorting coke and wearing yellow Izods.

You can't really blame the writers of the show (7 p.m., WFLD-Channel 32) for holding off the "Decade of Greed." If you had to pick between living forever in the late '70s or the early '80s, the Carter years would be your winner. Politicians living in a state of red-baiting moneyism might opt for the go-go Reagan years. But they'd have to be high to make that margin call.

The late '70s was about mellowing out, getting laid and watching "MASH" and good movies. The early '80s was about buying stocks, lovingly conditioning the leather seats of your bitchin' Honda Prelude, and wearing argyle sweater vests. That's not even a fair fight.

That said, "That '70s Show" may have run its tie-dye course. It's been kind of an amusing sitcom. But tonight's hourlong eighth-season premiere is saddled with the chore of keeping the ensemble cast busy while making up for the exit of lead actor Topher Grace, who has played the pothead ringleader Eric.

With Eric gone as a regular character, distractions abound. Someone gets punched; someone dies; a stripper paints her toenails in the kitchen. The episode doesn't reek. I laughed two little laughs, chuckled twice and smiled three times. I kept count. Basically, an hour passes without incident.

Also, there is a serious logistical discrepancy. The mom, Kitty (Debra Jo Rupp), gets baked on buds, making her see walls rock as if they were storm-tossed ships. This is filmed funny. But she also thinks people's heads are super big, atop squiggly bodies. Methinks she dropped acid and PCP, too, because that is not a pot high, dudes. Get your drug interactions straight.

If "That '70s Show" is more quickly passing into the great hereafter of creativity, it deserves credit for having provided more humor than most sitcoms, and for being cast well. Some of the actors are making strides elsewhere.

*Grace is scheduled to play a villain in "Spider-Man 3," after turning in critically acclaimed performances in "Traffic" and "In Good Company."

*Ashton Kutcher -- who will appear this season in only some episodes, including tonight's -- hooked up with Demi Moore and made a name for himself, as himself, in MTV's prank-pulling "Punk'd." Then again, he was in the movies, "Dude, Where's My Car?" (eh), "Just Married" (chafe) and "Cheaper by the Dozen" (I think I'm gonna be sick).

*And Wilmer Valderrama presumably engaged in the steamier methods of animal husbandry with Lindsay Lohan when he was briefly her boyfriend, as noted wildly in the media for about five minutes, a million tabloid-years ago.

Maybe the show that made them stars and semi-stars will keep growing, like a sticky stalk of herb in a high schooler's closet. I wouldn't count on it. But better that than a mirror and a razor blade. The '80s can go binge-drink some bong water.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 70sshow; 80s; conservatives; genx; lefties; liberalmedia; trashtv
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To: RockinRight

Mama mia thatsa nice meataballa.


61 posted on 11/02/2005 12:38:33 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: CFC__VRWC

I remember the late '70s being about my ABCs... you old fart! =)


62 posted on 11/02/2005 12:45:22 PM PST by thoughtomator (Alito Akbar)
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To: RockinRight

Pretty much the only reason to watch that show.


63 posted on 11/02/2005 12:46:12 PM PST by thoughtomator (Alito Akbar)
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To: thoughtomator

Well I certainly don't watch it for Mr. Demi Moore...


64 posted on 11/02/2005 12:51:50 PM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: Chi-townChief
"The late '70s was about mellowing out, getting laid and watching "MASH" and good movies. The early '80s was about buying stocks, lovingly conditioning the leather seats of your bitchin' Honda Prelude, and wearing argyle sweater vests. That's not even a fair fight."

I thought that the 1970s was about living like hippies but with less vigor. That and crappy domestic, economic, trade, defense, energy, and foreign policy from 1976 to 1980.

I do not recall seeing scores of Honda Preludes (especially among the Yuppies - many of whom happened to be cousins of mine). I do recall heavy metal, hair bands, cool movies about whacking commies, TV shows with cool cars and leggy women, sitcoms that did less preaching and more entertaining, a sense of confidence in one's self and the nation, and a growing economy as well as Reds on the run.
65 posted on 11/02/2005 12:59:09 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps
I do not recall seeing scores of Honda Preludes (especially among the Yuppies - many of whom happened to be cousins of mine). I do recall heavy metal, hair bands, cool movies about whacking commies, TV shows with cool cars and leggy women, sitcoms that did less preaching and more entertaining, a sense of confidence in one's self and the nation, and a growing economy as well as Reds on the run.

Amen! THAT's the 80s I'm talking about!

66 posted on 11/02/2005 1:09:53 PM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Everybody's favorite:

FR even ripped it for the fund raisers.

67 posted on 11/02/2005 1:11:39 PM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Huck
The 70s were just cooler

You have got to be kidding.

68 posted on 11/02/2005 1:14:20 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Maceman
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that this writer was either not alive, or too young to understand what was going on, during the wretched Carter adminisration.

Since I passed through my late teens, into adulthood under Jimmah Cahtah's helm...My recall was a lot of people wandering around how to get out from under his ineptitude. The general feeling was hopelessness, frustration and anger. No optimism towards the future.

Jeez! People were even excited in 1979 about the Chevrolet Citation! Now that is desperation!!

69 posted on 11/02/2005 1:22:17 PM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: Chi-townChief

Fox put out "That 80's show" and it failed miserably... Not that it has anything to do with this article...just sayin


70 posted on 11/02/2005 1:23:33 PM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: flashbunny

Red Foreman is a union lacky however if you saw the show about Pres. Ford coming to town... Red disrupted the town hall asking why he pardoned Nixon...


71 posted on 11/02/2005 1:25:30 PM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: Maceman

ROFL, from even the nostalgia sites I've been on not to mention the occasional off-topic discussions in places like this, the 80s would win - NEVER MIND putting it in terms of "Reagan" or "Carter"!!! ROFL


72 posted on 11/02/2005 1:29:06 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

No way dude. The 70s rule.


73 posted on 11/02/2005 1:38:03 PM PST by Huck (:-))
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To: smith288

Allegedly that was cuz they focused more on the nostalgia aspect rather than actually having stories.

I've only heard that, cuz these are not the kind of shows I like to watch.


74 posted on 11/02/2005 1:39:34 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Chi-townChief

There was lots of cocaine use and abuse in the hedonistic 1970s. There was more greed in the 1990s than in the 1980s.

Liberal talking points signifying nothing.


75 posted on 11/02/2005 1:40:16 PM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: Chi-townChief

While I was out of touch culturally with the 80s, and therefore my view is slanted, I would say the 70s definitely had better movies and music. Hollywood was highly creative; there was a sophistication yet at the same time an artistic integrity and moral voice.

However . . . in all other respects I absolutely hated the 70s. Besides their being a bleak period in my personal life, I felt the rage and frustration all around me. Everyone was bored and depressed. The 80s seemed like the light at the end of the tunnel, politically and economically. (Personally, things got better, too.)

The 80s, though, (& 90s) seemed far more decadent, with a glamour and very hard edge. The culture grew increasingly sterile; I watched a decline in the movies & music starting around 1982. I truly think that now Hollywood is dying.


76 posted on 11/02/2005 1:42:35 PM PST by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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To: 1Old Pro

No, Rap hardly led the charts. It may have really started then but it was still mostly fringe stuff.

http://www.80sxchange.com/80s_charts/1985.htm


As was "metal" and "hair" and all that other so-called music. Hair and metal bands did not rule, either. Never did, never will. Too bad so many people on the 'net can't see that. http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/heepsplace/revisionism.html


77 posted on 11/02/2005 1:45:12 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Alex Murphy

"I'll buy that for a dollar!" ...


78 posted on 11/02/2005 1:47:40 PM PST by Mr. C
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To: weegee

The only reason the '80s were "greedy" is cuz the Evil Reagan was not only "head of it all" (despite having to fight a Lib Congress), but very popular.

As for the '70s, yes and no, but they were no worse overall than the late '60s (which is usually what we think of when we say "'60s"). IMO the '70s takes all the heat for and by what the '60s hippies actually did. The '60s hippies were the TRUE "me" generation, the "Mother of all Selfish Generations". ;-)


79 posted on 11/02/2005 1:48:11 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: smith288

Part of the problem was they had actors/actresses playing teenagers in the 1980's who were themselves teenagers in the 1980's 15 years ago.


80 posted on 11/02/2005 1:48:17 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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