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University Economists review "FairTax"
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Posted on 11/02/2005 10:09:04 AM PST by Eaglewatcher

-1- An Open Letter to the President, the Congress, and the American people Concerning Reform of the Federal Tax Code

Dear Mr. President, Members of Congress, and Fellow Americans,

We, the undersigned business and university economists, welcome and applaud the ongoing initiative to reform the federal tax code. We urge the President and the Congress to work together in good faith to pass and sign into federal law H.R. 25 and S. 25, which together call for:

• Eliminating all federal income taxes for individuals and corporations,

• Eliminating all federal payroll withholding taxes,

• Abolishing estate and capital gains taxes, and • Repealing the 16th Amendment

We are not calling for elimination of federal taxation, which would be irresponsible and undesirable. Nor does our endorsement call for reduced federal spending. The tax reform plan we endorse is revenue neutral, collecting as much federal tax revenue as the current income tax code, including payroll withholding taxes.

We are calling for elimination of federal income taxes and federal payroll withholding taxes.

We endorse replacing these costly, oppressively complex, and economically inefficient taxes with a progressive national retail sales tax, such as the tax plan offered by H.R. 25 and S. 25 – which is also known as the FairTax Plan. The FairTax Plan has been introduced in the 109th Congress and had 54 co-sponsors in the 108th Congress.

If passed and signed into law, the FairTax Plan would:

• Enable workers and retirees to receive 100% of their paychecks and pension benefits,

• Replace all federal income and payroll taxes with a simple, progressive, visible, efficiently collected national retail sales tax, which would be levied on the final sale of newly produced goods and services,

• Rebate to all households each month the federal sales tax they pay on basic necessities, up to an independently determined level of spending (a.k.a., the poverty level, as determined by the Department of Health and Human Services), which removes the burden of federal taxation on the poor and makes the FairTax Plan as progressive as the current tax code,

• Collect the national sales tax at the retail cash register, just as 45 states already do,

• Set a federal sales tax rate that is revenue neutral, thereby raising the same amount of tax revenue as now raised by federal income taxes plus payroll withholding taxes,

• Continue Social Security and Medicare benefits as provided by law; only the means of tax collection changes,

• Eliminate all filing of individual federal tax returns,

• Eliminate the IRS and all audits of individual taxpayers; only audits of retailers would be needed, greatly reducing the cost of enforcing the federal tax code,

An Open Letter to the President, the Congress, and the American people -2- • Allow states the option of collecting the national retail sales tax, in return for a fee, along with their state and local sales taxes,

• Collect federal sales tax from every retail consumer in the country, whether citizen or undocumented alien, which will enlarge the federal tax base,

• Collect federal sales tax on all consumption spending on new final goods and services, whether the dollars used to finance the spending are generated legally, illegally, or in the huge “underground economy,”

• Dramatically reduce federal tax compliance costs paid by businesses, which are now embedded and hidden in retail prices, placing U.S. businesses at a disadvantage in world markets,

• Bring greater accountability and visibility to federal tax collection,

• Attract foreign equity investment to the United States, as well as encourage U.S. firms to locate new capital projects in the United States that might otherwise go abroad, and

• Not tax spending for education, since H.R. 25 and S. 25 define expenditure on education to be investment, not consumption, which will make education about half as expensive for American families as it is now.

The current U.S. income tax code is widely regarded by just about everyone as unfair, complex, wasteful, confusing, and costly. Businesses and other organizations spend more than six billion hours each year complying with the federal tax code. Estimated compliance costs conservatively top $225 billion annually – costs that are ultimately embedded in retail prices paid by consumers.

The Internal Revenue Code cannot simply be “fixed,” which is amply demonstrated by more than 35 years of attempted tax code reform, each round resulting in yet more complexity and unrelenting, page-after-page, mind-numbing verbiage (now exceeding 54,000 pages containing more than 2.8 million words). Our nation’s current income tax alters business decisions in ways that limit growth in productivity. The federal income tax also alters saving and investment decisions of households, which dramatically reduces the economy’s potential for growth and job creation.

Payroll withholding taxes are regressive, hitting hardest those least able to pay. Simply stated, the complexity and frequently changing rules of the federal income tax code make our country less competitive in the global economy and rob the nation of its full potential for growth and job creation.

In summary, the economic benefits of the FairTax Plan are compelling. The FairTax Plan eliminates the tax bias against work, saving, and investment, which would lead to higher rates of economic growth, faster growth in productivity, more jobs, lower interest rates, and a higher standard of living for the American people.

An Open Letter to the President, the Congress, and the American people -3- The America proposed by the FairTax Plan would feature:

• no federal income taxes,

• no payroll taxes,

• no self-employment taxes,

• no capital gains taxes,

• no gift or estate taxes,

• no alternative minimum taxes,

• no corporate taxes,

• no payroll withholding,

• no taxes on Social Security benefits or pension benefits,

• no personal tax forms,

• no personal or business income tax record keeping, and

• no personal income tax filing whatsoever.

No Internal Revenue Service; no April 15th; all gone, forever.

We believe that many Americans will favor the FairTax Plan proposed by H.R. 25 and S. 25, although some may say, “it simply can’t be done.” Many said the same thing to the grassroots progressives who won women the right to vote, to those who made collective bargaining a reality for union members, and to the Freedom Riders who made civil rights a reality in America.

We urge Congress not to abandon the FairTax Plan simply because it will be difficult to face the objections of entrenched special interest groups – groups who now benefit from the complexity and tax preferences of the status quo. The comparative advantage and benefits offered by the FairTax Plan to the vast majority of Americans is simply too high a cost to pay.

Therefore, we the undersigned professional and university economists, endorse a progressive national retail sales tax plan, as provided by the FairTax Plan. We urge Congress to make H.R. 25 and S. 25 federal law, and then to work swiftly to repeal the 16th Amendment. Respectfully,

Donald L. Alexander Professor of Economics Western Michigan University

Wayne Angell Angell Economics

Jim Araji Professor of Agricultural Economics University of Idaho

Ray Ball Graduate School of Business University of Chicago

Roger J. Beck Professor Emeritus Southern Illinois University, Carbondale

John J. Bethune Kennedy Chair of Free Enterprise Barton College

David M. Brasington Louisiana State University

Jack A. Chambless Professor of Economics Valencia College

Christopher K. Coombs Louisiana State University

William J. Corcoran, Ph.D. University of Nebraska at Omaha

Eleanor D. Craig Economics Department University of Delaware

-4- An Open Letter to the President, the Congress, and the American people

Susan Dadres, Ph.D. Department of Economics Southern Methodist University

Henry Demmert Santa Clara University

Arthur De Vany Professor Emeritus Economics and Mathematical Behavioral Sciences University of California, Irvine

Pradeep Dubey Leading Professor Center for Game Theory Dept. of Economics SUNY at Stony Brook

Demissew Diro Ejara William Paterson University of New Jersey

Patricia J. Euzent Department of Economics University of Central Florida

John A. Flanders Professor of Business and Economics Central Methodist University

Richard H. Fosberg, Ph.D. William Paterson University

Gary L. French, Ph.D. Senior Vice President Nathan Associates Inc.

Professor James Frew Economics Department Willamette University

K. K. Fung University of Memphis

Satya J. Gabriel, Ph.D. Professor of Economics and Finance Mount Holyoke College

Dave Garthoff Summit College The University of Akron

Ronald D. Gilbert Associate Professor of Economics Texas Tech University

Philip E. Graves Department of Economics University of Colorado

Bettina Bien Greaves, Retired Foundation for Economic Education

John Greenhut, Ph.D. Associate Professor Finance & Business Economics School of Global Management and Leadership Arizona State University

Darrin V. Gulla Dept. of Economics University of Georgia

Jon Halvorson Assistant Professor of Economics Indiana University of Pennsylvania

Reza G. Hamzaee, Ph.D. Professor of Economics & Applied Decision Sciences Department of Economics Missouri Western State College

James M. Hvidding Professor of Economics Kutztown University

F. Jerry Ingram, Ph.D. Professor of Economics and Finance The University of Louisiana-Monroe

Drew Johnson Fellow Davenport Institute for Public Policy Pepperdine University

Steven J. Jordan Visiting Assistant Professor Virginia Tech Department of Economics

Richard E. Just University of Maryland

Dr. Michael S. Kaylen Associate Professor University of Missouri

David L. Kendall Professor of Economics and Finance University of Virginia's College at Wise

Peter M. Kerr Professor of Economics Southeast Missouri State University

Miles Spencer Kimball Professor of Economics University of Michigan

James V. Koch Department of Economics Old Dominion University

Laurence J. Kotlikoff Professor of Economics Boston University

Edward J. López Assistant Professor University of North Texas

Franklin Lopez Tulane University

Salvador Lopez University of West Georgia

Yuri N. Maltsev, Ph.D. Professor of Economics Carthage College

Glenn MacDonald John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics and Strategy Washington University in St. Louis

Dr. John Merrifield, Professor of Economics University of Texas-San Antonio

An Open Letter to the President, the Congress, and the American people -5- Dr. Matt Metzgar Mount Union College

Carlisle Moody Department of Economics College of William and Mary

Andrew P. Morriss Galen J. Roush Professor of Business Law & Regulation Case Western Reserve University School of Law

Timothy Perri Department of Economics Appalachian State University Mark J. Perry School of Management and Department of Economics University of Michigan-Flint

Timothy Peterson Assistant Professor Economics and Management Department Gustavus Adolphus College

Ben Pierce Central Missouri State University

Michael K. Pippenger, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Economics University of Alaska

Robert Piron Professor of Economics Oberlin College

Mattias Polborn Department of Economics University of Illinois

Joseph S. Pomykala, Ph.D. Department of Economics Towson University

Barry Popkin University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill

Steven W. Rick Lecturer, University of Wisconsin Senior Economist, Credit Union National Association

Michael Rizzo Assistant Professor of Economics Centre College

Paul H. Rubin Samuel Candler Dobbs Professor of Economics & Law Department of Economics Emory Univeristy

John Ruggiero University of Dayton

Michael K. Salemi Bowman and Gordon Gray Professor of Economics University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Dr. Carole E. Scott Richards College of Business State University of West Georgia

Carlos Seiglie Dept. of Economics Rutgers University

John Semmens Economist Phoenix College, Arizona

Alan C. Shapiro Ivadelle and Theodore Johnson Professor of Banking and Finance Marshall School of Business University of Southern California

Dr. Stephen Shmanske Professor of Economics California State University, Hayward

James F. Smith University of North Carolina- Chapel Hill

Vernon L. Smith Economist W. James Smith Dean of Liberal Arts and Sciences and Professor of Economics University of Colorado at Denver

John C. Soper Boler School of Business John Carroll University

Roger Spencer Professor of Economics Trinity University

Daniel A. Sumner, Director, University of California Agricultural Issues Center and the Frank H. Buck, Jr., Chair Professor, Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics, University of California, Davis

Curtis R. Taylor Professor of Economics and Business Duke University

Robert Vigil Analysis Group, Inc.

John H. Wicks, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus Department of Economics University of Montana

F. Scott Wilson, Ph.D. Canisius College

Mokhlis Y. Zaki Professor of Economics Emeritus Northern Michigan University

An Open Letter to the President, the Congress, and the American people -6-


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: economics; fairtax; nationalsalestax; nrst; tax; taxreform
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To: Your Nightmare
Corporate taxes are not a factor in pricing.

And expenses aren't costs.

And utilities aren't a factor in pricing either. Neither is salary expense considered.

Right.

661 posted on 11/14/2005 9:02:41 AM PST by Principled
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To: pigdog; Your Nightmare
Income Taxes are levied on profit ...

But payroll tax is due irrespective of profit.

Tax planning is done irrespective of profit.

Income taxes are but a part of tax costs. All are considered when determining price. Duh.

662 posted on 11/14/2005 9:05:18 AM PST by Principled
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To: Polybius
As far as income taxes are concerned, it never existed as far as the IRS is concerned and you can't claim it as a deduction.

Curious - do they let you take these as a loss to reduce profit/taxes?

663 posted on 11/14/2005 9:07:47 AM PST by Principled
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To: Always Right
And still when Polybius stated $230 tax on a $1000 item none of the tax fairies corrected him.

I guess I'm not a tax fairy then, because I did correct him.

Do you even read the threads?

664 posted on 11/14/2005 9:09:44 AM PST by Principled
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To: lewislynn
He would only get to keep .0025 of the tax collected or about $287

How much does he get to keep today under the income tax?

665 posted on 11/14/2005 9:13:03 AM PST by Principled
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To: Always Right
I see you learned how to truncate sentences to take them out of context. A new trick for the fair taxers.

Be specific...

I usually don't quote the entire post. If I have truncated in such a way to alter meaning, it is an error.

What specifically is truncated in such a manner?

666 posted on 11/14/2005 9:16:27 AM PST by Principled
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To: Always Right

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1514199/posts?page=659#657

Here is the post to which you replied. If this is the post you're upset about, YN has assured the entire thread that production costs ARE costs.

Take it up with him.


667 posted on 11/14/2005 9:21:26 AM PST by Principled
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To: Principled
What specifically is truncated in such a manner?

If you would have checked the post I replied to, it was kind of obvious, but here it is:

Your Nightmare: "Corporate income taxes are NOT a cost of production"

You truncated it to eliminate the 'of production' part then called him obtuse for saying Corporate income taxes are not a cost.

668 posted on 11/14/2005 9:22:18 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1514199/posts?page=659#657

Here is the post to which you replied. If this is the post you're upset about, YN has assured the entire thread that production costs ARE costs.

Take it up with him.


669 posted on 11/14/2005 9:23:34 AM PST by Principled
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To: lewislynn

As I understand what Polyibus said, Looey, his CPA is not the firm that does his billing/collecting so he will save the $2,850 cost of the CPA in addition the the $100,000 income tax cost.

If he would continue to have an accountant it would, of course, be up to him - but the CPA wouldn't have any taxes to "do" so probably wouldn't be necessary since he IRS isn't in the picture and as an S-Corp (presently) there are no shareholders to report to.

Perhaps you should ask him whether he would need an accountant - and for what - and how much he'd expect to pay him. It's not my call, but his. My guess would be that he'd save the CPA payments as no longer being required.


670 posted on 11/14/2005 10:01:24 AM PST by pigdog
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To: Principled

Seems very likely to me ... but of course I'm not a Squirrel.


671 posted on 11/14/2005 10:02:43 AM PST by pigdog
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To: Principled
As far as income taxes are concerned, it never existed as far as the IRS is concerned and you can't claim it as a deduction.

Curious - do they let you take these as a loss to reduce profit/taxes?

Nope.

Not for services.

If you sell your services, you cannot deduct an unpaid bill as a bad debt. No tax deduction is allowed for time you devoted to the client or customer who doesn’t pay. The tax code rationale is that if you could deduct the value of unpaid services, it would be too easy to inflate your bills and claim large bad debt deductions—and too hard for the IRS to catch you.

672 posted on 11/14/2005 11:44:58 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Principled
And utilities aren't a factor in pricing either. Neither is salary expense considered.
Utilities and salaries are a cost of production. You can't produce a product without utilities and labor. You can produce a product without paying corporate income taxes. But even if a business didn't have utility or salary costs (magically), it still wouldn't change the price. A business will charge as much as the market will bear and their costs do not enter into that equation. Their costs do enter into the equation that determines if the business wants to keep making that product, but the price is set by the market - not the business (unless it is a price maker in the industry, which the vast majority of businesses aren't).

In a competitive market, most business are "price takers" - they can't change the market so they must accept the market price for their products, regardless of their costs. This is why businesses go under. They can't make a profit selling their product at the market price. FairTaxers seem to think these businesses can just jack up their prices to cover their cost, any profit they might want (and it's up to the business to say what enough profit is), and any taxes they might be required to pay. It doesn't work this way. If it did, no business would ever go bankrupt.

There are a few "price makers." These businesses are large enough to affect the market price in their industries. But if the business can set their own price, taxes won't matter.
673 posted on 11/14/2005 12:07:11 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare
You can produce a product without paying corporate income taxes.

You could produce a product with no utility expense too.

So what?

674 posted on 11/14/2005 12:41:34 PM PST by Principled
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To: Principled

Or with no labor or salary for that matter ...

But you're right - so what??? (He's just trying to sidetrack the discussion and will go to any length to try to divert any topic if he believes it makes the FairTax look good).


675 posted on 11/14/2005 12:49:17 PM PST by pigdog
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To: Principled
You could produce a product with no utility expense too.
Then utilities aren't a cost of production for that particular product (whatever product you have in mind that doesn't require any utilities), but if the product does require utilities to produce, then the utilities are a cost of production.

For sure, though, no product requires corporate income taxes to produce. Corporate income taxes are NOT a cost of production.
676 posted on 11/14/2005 1:31:39 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare
Corporate income taxes are NOT a cost of production.

Corporate taxes are not pumpkin seeds either.

Neither matters a lick.

Corporate income taxes, payroll taxes, and compliance costs are indeed expenses that must be paid.

Whether you define it as "cost of production" is immaterial with respect to the requirement that the expense be paid.

Fool.

677 posted on 11/14/2005 5:05:42 PM PST by Principled
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To: Your Nightmare
In a competitive market, most business are "price takers" - they can't change the market so they must accept the market price for their products, regardless of their costs. This is why businesses go under. They can't make a profit selling their product at the market price.

Amen.

FairTaxers seem to think these businesses can just jack up their prices to cover their cost, any profit they might want ...

No. That's stupid. Nobody thinks that. Nowhere will you find anyone saying such. Plain lie. You're way overboard on this one.

I will say it. You are lying.

678 posted on 11/14/2005 5:10:53 PM PST by Principled
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To: Eaglewatcher

How does a "Progressive sales tax" work?


679 posted on 11/14/2005 5:14:40 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: muir_redwoods
By exempting the first X dollars of spending (for everyone). The effect is the more you spend, the higher your tax rate.

explanation of the rebate.

680 posted on 11/14/2005 5:28:44 PM PST by Principled
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