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Democrats Push to Delay Alito Hearings
AP ^ | 02 NOV 05 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 11/02/2005 2:40:45 AM PST by fifthvirginia

Senate Democrats pushed on Tuesday for a 2006 date for hearings on Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito, challenging President Bush's call for confirmation by year's end.


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KEYWORDS: 109th; alito; obstructionistdems
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To: RWR8189

True. And my prediction is that the right will hold on, if not even increase.

But I don't see that as being a result of Bush, or a support of his economic or international policies, I see it as a reflection of what is happening at home.

Of course Bush could kamikazi all of it by throwing some sort of fit, but I give him the benefit of the doubt.


21 posted on 11/02/2005 3:16:16 AM PST by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: fifthvirginia
Somebody help me out here. I must have missed an election, or maybe even two. Aren't the Republicans in control of the Senate? Seems to me when the Dems were in control THEY called the shots and the Republicans had to like it or lump it. I am soooooooooo tired of the GOP behaving like they were still the minority party! Like my dad used to say, "tell 'em what you're gonna do, DO IT, and tell 'em what you've done!"
22 posted on 11/02/2005 3:18:12 AM PST by jwpjr
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To: djf
F the dems. They're just wanting more time to dig up something they can call dirt.

The longer they delay the longer they have O'Conner on the court to consider important cases coming up.

23 posted on 11/02/2005 3:18:21 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: RWR8189

You are so right. I seemed to have forgotten that Day O is sticking around until the new #9 is confirmed.

In my zeal, I forgot good common sense. :)


24 posted on 11/02/2005 3:22:10 AM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

It only takes a short reading of the decisions to see that O'Conner has been one of the most conservative justices, ever.

There is no one on the court except perhaps Thomas who understands Federalism and State's rights as much as she.


25 posted on 11/02/2005 3:23:12 AM PST by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: fifthvirginia
So it was my imagination when Reid insisted that the Alito nomination was already moving ahead and would NOT be delayed.

So we ought not believe what we hear from Reid.....

Just kidding, I always assume Reid is lying thru his teeth.

26 posted on 11/02/2005 3:23:53 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: RWR8189
There can be no recess appointment.
O'Connor's retirement does not become effective until her successor is confirmed.
There is no immediate vacancy to fill.

It is an interesting question. How is a nomination justified if there is no vacancy? What would happen if the President's will (recess appointment) butted heads with Judicial prerogative (timing of own retirement)? Would O'Connor step aside if a replacement was named through Constitutional means?

The plain language of Article II does seem to clearly express the conclusion that you reach ...

Article II
Section. 2.
Clause 3: The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

27 posted on 11/02/2005 3:24:16 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: MetalHeadConservative35
washington is a joke to me,its block this block that,filibuster everything and then some. . .

Not to say there is not 'crappola' on both sides. . .but Washington would be far less a joke; if there were fewer Libs.

28 posted on 11/02/2005 3:31:49 AM PST by cricket
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To: jwpjr

If the Republicans had any spinal fortitude, they would have made the Democrats pay for yesterday's stunt. The GOP should have agreed to continuing the investigation into pre-war intelligence only if the Alito hearings start by day X with a final Senate vote by day Y. For every day those deadlines are violated, the investigation would be put on hold for a month.


29 posted on 11/02/2005 3:33:33 AM PST by TomT in NJ
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To: fifthvirginia
Specter, R-Pa., was noncommittal on timing for hearings for Alito, a judge on the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. "This is a swing vote on the Supreme Court.... I don't know enough yet to say whether it's realistic by the end of the year," he said.
The man is just too much.
30 posted on 11/02/2005 3:40:01 AM PST by ComputerGuy (An expert is a person who avoids the small errors while sweeping on to the grand fallacy)
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To: Cboldt

I have never really understood the basis in law for O'Connor's retirement in full.

Bush has nominated O'Connor's replacement, but there is no vacancy to fill, she is still a member of the Court.

If Alito was confirmed and O'Connor did not retire, Alito obviously could not be sworn in because federal law currently limits the number of justices to 9.

Does that mean a President could name 50 justices and the Senate could confirm them all, but they could not be sworn in until a vacancy occurs?

I mean how is that any different than naming one justice and having him confirmed to a vacancy that doesn't exist?

Maybe someone could straighten it out...


31 posted on 11/02/2005 3:43:12 AM PST by RWR8189 (George Allen 2008)
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To: OldFriend
Just kidding, I always assume Reid is lying thru his teeth.

Too bad Senator Frist just realized yesterday that Reid is less than trustworthy.

That said. . .can the Repubs NOT allow a delay and make this nomination go forward?

Or, beyond that. . .will they just make it easy for these rats. . .by offering a 'hand of friendship' or some other token of bi-partisanship to these political infidels and agree to a 'delay' -

32 posted on 11/02/2005 3:47:20 AM PST by cricket
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To: RWR8189

She announced her intention to resign, but said she woud stay seated until a replacement was confirmed.


33 posted on 11/02/2005 3:48:37 AM PST by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: KMAJ2

Right, they screwed the Pooch bigtime with that little stunt. Frisk needed a good slap to wake him up and make him realize he's dealing with the 'Evil Party', and not a more 'liberal' wing of the Boy Scouts.


34 posted on 11/02/2005 3:49:01 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: djf

I know that.

But how can the Senate confirm a justice when there is no vacancy?

I'm speaking theoretically. Just because she said she will resign doesn't mean she's bound to do so.


35 posted on 11/02/2005 3:51:44 AM PST by RWR8189 (George Allen 2008)
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To: RWR8189
I mean how is that any different than naming one justice and having him confirmed to a vacancy that doesn't exist?
Maybe someone could straighten it out...

I think it's nothing but an interesting academic exercize. "The system" is content to operate on the word of Justice O'Connor that she will not provoke a Constitutional crisis by holding her seat past the time a replacement is confirmed.

But the scenario SHE chose to set has the potential to result in a butting of heads between the President, Senate and Court. I wonder if US history has any other examples of Justices giving retirement dates that are contingent on confirmation of their replacement.

36 posted on 11/02/2005 3:51:55 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: djf

There is only the appearance of weakness thanks to MSM.
War opposition and ratings skewed by skewed polls; Iraq will be turning the corner after Dec. parliamentary elections; US economy grew by 3.8 % last quarter in spite of "energy crisis" (not a peep from MSM); fuel prices going down; Plame affair was a mole hill from a mountain; DeLay already seen as victim: Dims unraveling.

W's true transient weakness was due to Miers, and he corrected that; his ongoing vulnerabilities are spending and the border. By next summer W will be riding high.


37 posted on 11/02/2005 3:54:44 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: fifthvirginia

We better hurry and get him on the court........something tells me a big case may be moving down the pike, which is the reason for the delay.......


38 posted on 11/02/2005 4:01:01 AM PST by joe fonebone (Well, since there's no other place around the place, ah reckon this must be the place..ah reckon!)
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To: jwpjr

The political reality is that moderates are in control of the Senate, not conservatives or Republicans.

The House is certainly in the control of the Republicans, due to the differing rules for legislation.

Anyone who doesn't comprehend this in their bones has no business discussing politics until they study up.


39 posted on 11/02/2005 4:04:26 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: RWR8189

I agree with you. It has always seemed to me that there is no vacancy to fill, too.


40 posted on 11/02/2005 4:07:11 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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