CIA holds terror suspects in secret prisons

WP ^ | November 1 2005 | Dana Priest

[jmc1969]

Debate grows within agency about legality, morality of approach

The CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al Qaeda captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe, according to U.S. and foreign officials familiar with the arrangement.

The secret facility is part of a covert prison system set up by the CIA nearly four years ago that at various times has included sites in eight countries, including Thailand, Afghanistan and several democracies in Eastern Europe, as well as a small center at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba, according to current and former intelligence officials and diplomats from three continents.

The hidden global internment network is a central element in the CIA's unconventional war on terrorism. It depends on the cooperation of foreign intelligence services, and on keeping even basic information about the system secret from the public, foreign officials and nearly all members of Congress charged with overseeing the CIA's covert actions.

The existence and locations of the facilities -- referred to as "black sites" in classified White House, CIA, Justice Department and congressional documents -- are known to only a handful of officials in the United States and, usually, only to the president and a few top intelligence officers in each host country.

But the revelations of widespread prisoner abuse in Afghanistan and Iraq by the U.S. military -- which operates under published rules and transparent oversight of Congress -- have increased concern among lawmakers, foreign governments and human rights groups about the opaque CIA system.

[Calpernia]

Cross linking:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1514008/posts
CIA Holds Terror Suspects in Secret Prisons

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

They want a Federal Shield law? I don't think so.

[Calpernia]

Excellent!

No pictures!!!

Semper Fi,
Kelly
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Pictures coming right up!

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

CIA's, MSM"s,Dem"s version of Chinese water torture

Drip...........Drip...........Drip...........

[samtheman]

So, what is the penalty for Treason?

In the US? These days?

Awards.

Accolades.

Public praise.

Movie deals.

[Tulsa Ramjet]

FYI, just this morning, Lindsey Graham said, in favor of the administration, it has been previously determined that these specific individuals (al queda terrorists) do not have Geneva Convention rights (accessible for interviews and inspections) but basic American values for detention will apply. In other words, these are the worse or the worse.

[Carry_Okie]

Those posters are GREAT.

Things certainly have changed.

[Carry_Okie]

Porter Goss needs a fire hose.

The communists in our universities are the real problem.

[kellynla]

My father rode with Pershing when he was down in Mexico chasing Poncho Villa and on to France with him in WWI.

Semper Fi,
Kelly

[Calpernia]

Really? Do you have pictures or stories? I would love to read them!

[Calpernia]

I will ping you to the one I just posted at the Canteen :)

[Flash Bazbeaux]

"And we here in the Heartland all say, SO WHAT if the CIA has prisons for these terrorist criminals!"

It could be worse. The WP could be reporting "Bush administration wastes money on network of secret prisons with no one in them." At least this way we know we're getting something for our tax dollars.

[Flash Bazbeaux]

"Would I run a page one story on Dec. 5, 1944 that the allies are invading Normandy tomorrow?"

Reminds me of Bluto Blutarsky's rhetorical question -- "Did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

[kellynla]

I'd have to do some digging.
But I don't have any pictures in California.
I do have a picture drawn of my father by one of his fellow Soldiers from WWI which hangs in my office.

and as for stories, like most of the Doughboys, may father didn't talk about the war.

[Calpernia]

That is a shame. I like finding MIL pages and reading stories when they are posted. I learn more from them then I ever did in history classes.

[CaptRon]

Debate grows within agency about legality, morality of approach

Note to CIA: These people want to KILL us!!!

[CaptRon]

Would I run a page one story on Dec. 5, 1944 that the allies are invading Normandy tomorrow? I think not.

You'd have been off by 6 months anyway.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

. If he thinks WWII was in some way a 'Clean' War, warranting his cooperation and approval because of this impression, he is way out to lunch. WWII (And every other War) was a War and inherently unclean.

The Left supported WWII only because it was to save Stalin. If Pearl Harbor had occured before Barbarossa, there would have been no Normandy invasion, Hitler would have been "Uncle Adolf" and the european war would have been compartmentalized despite the inconvenient Axis treaty between Tokyo and Berlin or the Left, including Vice President and communist Henry Wallace, would have torn our "unity" competely apart and Roosevelt's life wouldn't have been worth a plugged wooden nickel.

[CDB]

Porter Goss and his counterintelligence people should re-polygraph EVERY CIA staff member, to plug this and future leaks. All leakers should be tried for treason.

[SevenMinusOne]

Why does anyone think the entire CIA is composed ONLY of traitors and double agents?

I don't think anyone thinks the CIA is composed of "only" traitors and Lib's - But the fact remains are large segment of the CIA certainly is composed of just that! - The CIA in the late 80's and 90's became completely risk adverse. It also became extremely political (especially so for an agency where politics should be left at the door).

Mr. Goss is most likely (hopefully) doing what he can to remove many of these types - Though it will definitely take time. As I said, outside of the SAD, the CIA is not a reliable agency at this time. That is the bottom line. Way too many within the CIA are willing to leak to the MSM, still risk adverse and looking to conduct their own foreign policy.