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To: LibertyRocks
they stated clearly that these were Muslim immigrants... I almost fell off my chair....

Dunno why. Remember that the MSM is largely owned by folks who adhere to the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) and their worldview of a UN dominated NWO. I'm sure the rising threat of an Islamist controlled world is terrifying to all of them! The new religion in that scenario will be enviromentalism, I'm sure. At least that's what I see shaping up in the public school curriculums. So in this, at least, the globalist cabal and the freedom loving patriots make strange but certain bedfellows. I wouldn't call it a partnership per say, more like a scene that says the enemy of my enemy is my friend..... sort of thing. At least for now.

543 posted on 11/05/2005 3:01:33 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier; All; nw_arizona_granny; appalachian_dweller; jer33 3

[LOL... Sorry in advance for the length of my response, I didn't mean for this to be so "wordy". I do however appreciate the opportunity to put these thoughts into words within a forum of educated people. If the moderators wish I can put this up as a vanity thread and we could discuss it there... (o:]

Well, the reason I almost fell off my chair is because for days the US MSM resisted mentioning the religious/ethnic identity of the rioters, not to mention resisting reporting on it at all in the first 4-5 days of the riots. That said, the next day ABC's World News Tonight backtracked and there was no mention of religious/ethnic affiliation. Honestly, it was back to the standard fare of - just enough info to say we mentioned it...

Please keep in mind through the next section that I'm not saying you're wrong - you definitely may be correct and I may be completely off-base - I just want to express how I'm seeing things at this point... I admit that I am confused because in this current state of affairs there is no clear-cut distinction of "good guys" and "bad guys" as there has been in past history... It's not like WWII when the majority of our country was united in thought and action.

I understand what you are saying in regards to the "global cabal and the freedom loving patriots" as it applies to the various heads of state. However, it seems to me that the people are not quite so accomodating...

Liberals here in the US - as I'm sure you are aware - are very much thinking of this whole conflict in a much different way. The activists and the people of the "left" (including/encouraged by some democrat politicians) are blindly(?) making bedfellows with those who would impose Islam across the globe because they see them as "victims" of imperialism and "victims" of religious intolerance... Either that, or they never understood the whole "appeasement" issue.

THAT's what I don't understand in the slightest. I hope it really is a case of a vocal minority, but I see them as being completely brainwashed at this point - the "liberal" activists in this country (the youths in particular) see Islamic jihadists as their "friends" because they are fighting against the current administration whom they see as their enemy. This is evidenced by the fact that the anti-war groups repeatedly refer to the jihadists as "freedom fighters" combating "occupation" by "hostile" forces. I honestly don't think they understand that if the Radical sects of Islam gain power they will NOT "live and let live".

As far as "environmentalism" - I do see that being a factor, but a much more dangerous thing I see happening across the nation is the Communism/Socialism teaching(brainwashing) that is occurring at our larger universities and even in lower grades within the public school systems (mostly in largely "liberal" communities). The push among the youths for communism/socialism is fervent in some areas. Even on kids websites that have nothing to do with politics I have seen open support and encouragement for communism - complete with praise for the current Chinese government as well as Castro and Guevara (I monitor the places my kids go on the WWW (o:).

It seems none of these youths even know what happened in Tienamen(sp?) Square, or what life was like even under the old USSR wihin the countries of Eastern Europe. They have no clue in regards to the suffering of people under leaders such as Stalin - they are not taught these things, and when they are brought up it is said that these things happened due to "imperfect" administration of said ideologies.

IMHO, the communist/socialist/anarchist activists have been much more vocal in the last few years than the environmentalists. It seems to me at least that there has been a shift since the start of the war in Iraq towards concern of governmental power, and not "saving the Earth" as has been the focus over the previous decade. I think "global warming" and other environmentalist issues have been put on the back burner in favor of speaking out against supposed "atrocities" that they see in connection with "imperialism" That said, there is obviously a tie-in with the whole "war for oil" mentality and environmentalists but I think that's a handy selling point for their propoganda...

- LR


548 posted on 11/05/2005 5:57:23 PM PST by LibertyRocks (Updated Info on "Stoppered Vial" Case & OU Bombing... http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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