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[LOL... Sorry in advance for the length of my response, I didn't mean for this to be so "wordy". I do however appreciate the opportunity to put these thoughts into words within a forum of educated people. If the moderators wish I can put this up as a vanity thread and we could discuss it there... (o:]

Well, the reason I almost fell off my chair is because for days the US MSM resisted mentioning the religious/ethnic identity of the rioters, not to mention resisting reporting on it at all in the first 4-5 days of the riots. That said, the next day ABC's World News Tonight backtracked and there was no mention of religious/ethnic affiliation. Honestly, it was back to the standard fare of - just enough info to say we mentioned it...

Please keep in mind through the next section that I'm not saying you're wrong - you definitely may be correct and I may be completely off-base - I just want to express how I'm seeing things at this point... I admit that I am confused because in this current state of affairs there is no clear-cut distinction of "good guys" and "bad guys" as there has been in past history... It's not like WWII when the majority of our country was united in thought and action.

I understand what you are saying in regards to the "global cabal and the freedom loving patriots" as it applies to the various heads of state. However, it seems to me that the people are not quite so accomodating...

Liberals here in the US - as I'm sure you are aware - are very much thinking of this whole conflict in a much different way. The activists and the people of the "left" (including/encouraged by some democrat politicians) are blindly(?) making bedfellows with those who would impose Islam across the globe because they see them as "victims" of imperialism and "victims" of religious intolerance... Either that, or they never understood the whole "appeasement" issue.

THAT's what I don't understand in the slightest. I hope it really is a case of a vocal minority, but I see them as being completely brainwashed at this point - the "liberal" activists in this country (the youths in particular) see Islamic jihadists as their "friends" because they are fighting against the current administration whom they see as their enemy. This is evidenced by the fact that the anti-war groups repeatedly refer to the jihadists as "freedom fighters" combating "occupation" by "hostile" forces. I honestly don't think they understand that if the Radical sects of Islam gain power they will NOT "live and let live".

As far as "environmentalism" - I do see that being a factor, but a much more dangerous thing I see happening across the nation is the Communism/Socialism teaching(brainwashing) that is occurring at our larger universities and even in lower grades within the public school systems (mostly in largely "liberal" communities). The push among the youths for communism/socialism is fervent in some areas. Even on kids websites that have nothing to do with politics I have seen open support and encouragement for communism - complete with praise for the current Chinese government as well as Castro and Guevara (I monitor the places my kids go on the WWW (o:).

It seems none of these youths even know what happened in Tienamen(sp?) Square, or what life was like even under the old USSR wihin the countries of Eastern Europe. They have no clue in regards to the suffering of people under leaders such as Stalin - they are not taught these things, and when they are brought up it is said that these things happened due to "imperfect" administration of said ideologies.

IMHO, the communist/socialist/anarchist activists have been much more vocal in the last few years than the environmentalists. It seems to me at least that there has been a shift since the start of the war in Iraq towards concern of governmental power, and not "saving the Earth" as has been the focus over the previous decade. I think "global warming" and other environmentalist issues have been put on the back burner in favor of speaking out against supposed "atrocities" that they see in connection with "imperialism" That said, there is obviously a tie-in with the whole "war for oil" mentality and environmentalists but I think that's a handy selling point for their propoganda...

- LR

the "liberal" activists in this country (the youths in particular) see Islamic jihadists as their "friends" because they are fighting against the current administration whom they see as their enemy. This is evidenced by the fact that the anti-war groups repeatedly refer to the jihadists as "freedom fighters" combating "occupation" by "hostile" forces. I honestly don't think they understand that if the Radical sects of Islam gain power they will NOT "live and let live".

Nailed that one for sure. I see it everyday in my classroom. Minorities have been duped by the liberal power brokers and they've bought the whole nannystate package. Most liberals amongst the US citizenry are misguided sheeple. They have no idea of the reality of the pure evil they are helping to foster on the world. The power brokers...the CFR Insiders consider these to be useful idiots and as ultimately disposable as the rest of us. As far as the delay in the timing of the announcements, I'll bet that just like any huge bureaucracy, the orders had to slip down from "on high." They backed off to ratchet down the rhetoric and I'll bet the banks and global stocks were the cause for that move.

"global cabal and the freedom loving patriots" as it applies to the various heads of state.....

Actually I sorta think of the various heads of state as puppets of the CFR who is actually financed by the various global corporations and world banks. It is a masterful stroke of disinformation that the ~~educational~~ propaganda system defines socialism as a redistribution of wealth from the wealthy to the poor when in fact it is an actual consolidation and control of all wealth by the wealthy and the poor have nothing to do with it. But they support the agenda whole heartedly. You think companies like Xerox or EXXON see themselves as American companies? Nope. They're too big for that. They see themselves as citizens of the world and they'd like for that world to be one they helped to control in every sense of the word.

Hence the creation of CFR in 1921. The purpose of that group was to infiltrate and control all the branches of government right below those elected offices and eventually those as well. They have succeeded beyond their wildest expectations. Within a matter of years say by 1925 they controlled the Department of State. Do you know that to this day articles appearing in the CFR publication: Foreign Affairs as OP-ED analysis often become U.S. Government policy within months? True. That's politics. Their sister group, the Trilateral Commission was created by Zbignew Brezneshki (sp?) a senior advisor and puppet master to Peanut Jimmy Carter in the mid 1970's. That group split into three subgroups of Asia, Europe and North America. It is comprised of transnational banking groups and other financial power brokers to control global economies. As Baron Von Rothschilde once remarked: As long as I control the supply of money in a country, I care not who writes it's laws....

I suggest you peruse this site some. You'll be astounded. GLOBAL PLAYERS

I would have to agree with your thoughts.

If you want a good idea of the thoughts on what is happening in Paris, then you should have heard the John Rothman program last night.

You may still be able to hear it rerun on the computer, see his page at kgo.com.

For 4 hours he took calls on the Paris riots, asking why? and what if it happens here? what should be done? How do you prevent them happening in the U.S.?

His call screeners, pretty well kept the DU Underground out and had callers, with a brain to think with.

Most of the people have no clue, as to what the terrorist plans for the world.

One muslim, educated man was doing a fine job of explaining, that it is all the 'West's' fault.....then he slipped and said that it will only end, when Israel no longer exists.

The caller caught himself and tried to change what was already said. John did a good job of allowing him to go on talking, and get his entire message out.

The message was, that as long as the west supports Israel, the terrorists will continue the battle.

The general opinion was:

Let the riot alone and it will burn itself out.

That man (President) Bush will call in the National Guard.

That man, will call out the troops and kill the rioters.

Lock yourself in your house, until someone else handles it.

**About 5 pm, ABC news, said that the rioters have entered the city of Paris and the riot continues.

From a search this afternoon, this is a full communist site:

http://revolutionaryflowerpotsociety.theblog.cc/

From a terrorist post today, I picked up this, it is odd and goes to sites that I cannot read.

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=hamas%20flower%20pot

You may not be able to reach this site from FR, if not, go through Google, it is the old Twexus site/link.

There are 4600 words on the page when you highlight it, I do not know what the photo is, Las Vegas, sits in a hole, as the photo shows, but my eyes are not working at all today, so can't even guess what it really is.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:2P2peSvZTzAJ:www.nj0y.com/subpage_1/%3Ff%3Dsym+MARG-BAR+AMERIKA&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&client=googlet